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Even More Historical Rikishi Strength Analysis

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Some of you might remember my original posting on the topic of rikishi ratings since 1973. Now I have expanded my database with all Makuuchi bouts in Showa, including kimarite, which means back to 1927. I again thought it would be a nice idea to expand my ratings to start this time from 1927. I had to deal with some obstacles like greatly varying size of Makuuchi which influences entry ratings, bouts with draws or even yasumi. Then there was the Shunjuuen incidence again influencing entry ratings for a year in 1932.Anyway, I finally arrived at ratings which again are pretty accurately showing the performances of all Makuuchi rikishi since 1927, including many Yokozuna and Ozeki. Now I compared the rikishi from 1927 to 2005 with my ratings like I did in my first posting. This might easily be seen as unreasonable as the eras really are too different at times but I think the results aren't that bad. I agree that absolute strength just can't be compared with the times being so far apart, but the comparison at least has some validity in comparing relative strength. Was Taiho more dominating in his time or Chiyonofuji?I think the results are pretty good to compare since the six basho per year era started. The ratings of Yokozuna and Ozeki generally are comparatively lower for the first 30 years from 1927 to 1957. This might have to do with the fact that the rikishi had a lot fewer bouts per year (sometimes only two basho with eleven bouts per basho), so maybe the ratings didn't have enough time to rise. I'm not comfortable with that explanation since those rikishi mostly still have several hundred rated bouts which is with the exception of some cases enough to settle the rating. I rather think that the Yokozuna and Ozeki in that time really weren't so dominant as later. They did have good winning percentages but it should have been higher, given that the East-West pairing method and later on ichimon restrictions really made for a weaker set of opponents which is factored in the ratings. So I made two sets of tables for sake of better comparison, one for rikishi who retired before 1960 and one for the "modern era".I didn't change my methodical approach for the comparison in itself, so I'll allow myself to repeat the explanation:The easiest thing is just to compare the peak career rating. The disadvantage of that is that several rikishi have a short peak with big drop-offs elsewhere (for example Mienoumi) while other rikishi have countless basho near the career peak (for example Musashimaru).I discarded the idea of taking the career average rating because rikishi generally are viewed upon their top performances when evaluating the career. Also such rikishi as Konishiki got a low career average only because they competed until they couldn't, what shouldn't count against them.My solution was to take the best N ratings (with N = 3, 6 and 10) and calculate a weighted average of them with the career peak rating getting the weight N and the Nth best rating getting the weight 1. Furthermore, since the ratings from one basho to another are strongly dependent, all N ratings must be at least 3 basho apart. A big value for N favors rikishi with sustained and successful longevity, while a short N favors rikishi who have a short peak period. N = 10 was used only for the set of tables from 1958 onwards as the number of basho was too low before that.I made tables grouped by the career highest rank (Yokozuna, Ozeki and so on), leaving away all rikishi with less than 10 Makuuchi basho. The columns mean :Rank = highest career rankFirst = first basho with a rating, which is Makuuchi debut before 1989 and Juryo debut from 1989 onLast = last basho with a rating, which means last basho in Makuuchi (or in Juryo from 1989 on)Basho = # non-kyujo basho since 1927 (I left away all kyujo basho in the whole calculation)Makuuchi = # non-kyujo basho in Makuuchi (only relevant from 1989 onwards since I don't have Juryo bouts before that)Kyujo = # kyujo bashoW-L-D = number of rated wins, losses and draws, fusen are excluded, playoffs are includedPeak = career peak ratingRating 3 = weighted average of top 3 career ratingsRating 6 = weighted average of top 6 career ratingsRating 10 = weighted average of top 10 career ratingsRank = overall rank for the rating left to that column

Yokozuna 1960-2005
Rank Shikona First Last Basho Makuuchi Kyujo W-L-D Peak Rank Rating 3 Rank Rating 6 Rank Rating 10 Rank
Y Taiho 196001 197105 64 64 5 747-138 2731 1 2720 1 2699 1 2676 1
Y Kitanoumi 197201 198501 74 74 4 805-244 2705 2 2694 2 2672 2 2640 2
Y Tamanoumi 196403 197109 46 46 0 465-223 2680 3 2637 3 2586 4 2534 8
Y Chiyonofuji 197509 199105 75 75 6 811-244 2643 4 2631 4 2615 3 2600 3
Y Kitanofuji 196401 197407 61 61 3 589-290 2610 5 2604 5 2578 5 2543 5
Y Asashoryu 200009 200507 30 28 0 342-103 2609 6 2577 9 2530 10 2456 21
Y Mienoumi 196909 198011 67 67 1 543-407-1 2599 7 2547 11 2498 20 2453 22
Y Takanohana 198911 200301 69 64 11 748-246 2590 8 2579 7 2563 8 2542 6
Y Wajima 197101 198103 61 61 1 619-206 2588 9 2583 6 2574 6 2562 4
Y Kashiwado 195809 196907 60 60 6 599-235 2584 10 2579 8 2565 7 2542 7
Y Wakanohana 197311 198301 52 52 3 509-232 2583 11 2574 10 2555 9 2525 9
Y Akebono 199003 200101 56 53 10 602-212 2563 12 2539 15 2522 13 2505 10
Y Tochinishiki 194706 196005 51 51 1 511-200-1 2562 13 2542 13 2516 14 2491 13
Y Takanosato 197505 198601 56 56 2 462-308 2559 14 2516 21 2477 22 2430 26
Y Wakanohana 195001 196205 55 55 2 548-230-4 2543 19 2540 14 2524 12 2502 12
Y Asahifuji 198303 199201 53 53 1 485-276 2532 20 2523 18 2509 15 2481 15
Y Sadanoyama 196101 196803 42 42 2 433-162 2529 21 2522 19 2506 18 2484 14
Y Kotozakura 196303 197407 64 64 2 545-338 2527 22 2500 23 2474 23 2456 20
Y Hokutoumi 198309 199205 46 46 7 468-206 2522 23 2511 22 2497 21 2476 17
Y Musashimaru 199107 200311 70 68 5 728-277 2492 27 2478 25 2471 24 2465 19
Y Onokuni 198303 199107 45 45 6 423-225 2489 29 2474 27 2456 26 2431 25
Y Tochinoumi 196003 196611 36 36 4 310-175 2480 31 2449 36 2421 39 2384 47
Y Futahaguro 198409 198801 20 20 1 196-86 2479 33 2467 30 2423 38 2391 40
Y Asashio 195101 196201 48 48 4 431-243 2474 35 2456 34 2432 35 2412 33
Y Wakanohana 199003 200003 56 53 5 518-258 2430 51 2419 47 2403 46 2390 41
We have a new leader with Taiho, replacing Kitanoumi from my first study. In all categories Taiho is about 26 points ahead of Kitanoumi. As we will see, Taiho wasn't only even more dominating than Kitanoumi with more yusho, but he also had excellent opponents with Tamanoumi, Kitanofuji, Kashiwado, Sadanoyama and Kotozakura who all deserved a lot more yusho than they got, as Taiho won one yusho after another.Kitanoumi also clearly is the second best rikishi, in all categories. Chiyonofuji of course has more yusho but my ratings suggest very strongly that the competition for Kitanoumi was a lot harder than for Chiyonofuji with Wajima, Wakanohana II and Mienoumi claiming better slots in this table than Takanosato, Asashifuji, Hokutoumi and Onokuni who were the other Yokozuna in Chiyonofuji's time.The third best rikishi since 1960 is Chiyonofuji if you look at ratings which prefer sustained performance and surprisingly Tamanoumi in the peak rating (by a wide margin). Tamanoumi won only six yusho, but his career was clearly cut short as he died at the age of 27. In the year before his death he had an 84-6 record over six basho, winning four yusho. He clearly was set to win a lot more and with a longer career also his longevity ratings would clearly have been higher as he was on his peak as he died.Takanohana, Wajima and Mienoumi who followed after Chiyonofuji in my first posting are relegated further behind by Kitanofuji and Asashoryu. The Mongolian Yokozuna utilized the last year to establish a peak rating on par with Kitanofuji and rise in this standings ahead of Takanohana. His longevity marks will rise in the coming years as well as they still include some Maegashira basho.
Yokozuna 1927-1959
Rank Shikona First Last Basho Makuuchi Kyujo W-L-D Peak Rank Rating 3 Rank Rating 6 Rank
Y Futabayama 193202 194511 29 29 2 274-66-1 2559 15 2546 12 2525 11
Y Tamanishiki 192701 193805 35 35 2 289-81-3 2552 16 2527 16 2506 19
Y Haguroyama 193705 195309 34 34 5 322-87-1 2551 17 2523 17 2507 16
Y Tsunenohana 192701 193010 13 13 3 111-25 2544 18 2519 20 2506 17
Y Terukuni 193905 195301 30 30 2 268-83 2522 24 2485 24 2461 25
Y Yoshibayama 194711 195801 35 35 2 300-144-1 2507 25 2477 26 2448 30
Y Azumafuji 194305 195409 30 30 1 258-98-2 2493 26 2471 29 2452 27
Y Kagamisato 194706 195801 37 37 1 359-160 2472 36 2456 33 2438 33
Y Miyagiyama 192701 193103 17 17 1 89-65-1 2453 41 2396 56 2361 59
Y Chiyonoyama 194511 195901 39 39 7 363-143-2 2451 42 2446 39 2438 32
Y Musashiyama 192905 193905 23 23 6 174-66-2 2444 45 2426 46 2402 47
Y Akinoumi 193801 194611 15 15 3 140-58 2395 64 2375 63 2308 77
Y Minanogawa 192801 194201 33 33 3 242-135-1 2379 68 2373 66 2353 63
Y Maedayama 193701 194910 26 26 1 206-98 2379 69 2359 68 2342 65
Futabayama is widely recognized as the best rikishi in the first half of Showa and my ratings have him at the top position here as well. Still, in the peak rating at least his lead is quite close as Tamanishiki, Haguroyama and Tsunenohana are pretty close behind. And for Tsunenohana I only have the tail end of his career. At the bottom we have Akinoumi, Minanogawa and Maedayama who weren't the strongest Yokozuna by any standard.

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Ozeki 1960-2005
Rank Shikona First Last Basho Makuuchi Kyujo W-L-D Peak Rank Rating 3 Rank Rating 6 Rank Rating 10 Rank
O Wakashimazu 198101 198707 40 40 0 355-215 2490 28 2461 32 2427 37 2384 46
O Kiyokuni 196311 197401 61 61 1 502-381 2485 30 2473 28 2449 29 2423 29
O Konishiki 198407 199711 78 78 3 645-471 2479 32 2465 31 2449 28 2428 28
O Kirishima 198407 199603 70 70 1 516-505 2477 34 2439 41 2398 49 2337 60
O Maenoyama 196609 197403 45 45 1 341-302 2464 37 2435 43 2404 45 2371 50
O Takanohana 196811 198101 70 70 0 575-398 2463 38 2448 38 2431 36 2411 34
O Kaio 199201 200507 79 70 3 689-420 2461 39 2454 35 2441 31 2429 27
O Daikirin 196309 197411 57 57 1 469-332 2456 40 2448 37 2435 34 2418 32
O Tochiazuma 199605 200507 51 48 5 433-254 2449 43 2429 45 2408 44 2388 43
O Asahikuni 196907 197909 53 53 1 414-325 2449 44 2441 40 2418 42 2384 48
O Yutakayama 196201 196809 41 41 0 371-233 2444 46 2432 44 2421 40 2402 36
O Kotokaze 197701 198511 46 46 3 394-244 2438 47 2437 42 2418 41 2395 39
O Daiju 197005 197703 42 42 0 306-292 2434 48 2392 57 2354 62 2321 65
O Kaiketsu 197109 197901 45 45 0 367-304 2432 49 2407 52 2384 53 2356 54
O Kitabayama 195811 196605 45 45 1 393-271 2427 52 2403 54 2385 52 2366 51
O Chiyotaikai 199507 200507 57 44 4 502-314 2419 53 2418 48 2413 43 2401 37
O Asashio 197811 198903 62 62 1 526-371 2418 54 2411 50 2394 50 2379 49
O Takanonami 199103 200405 80 76 0 680-498 2415 56 2398 55 2383 54 2362 52
O Hokutenyu 198011 199009 58 58 2 509-332 2415 57 2409 51 2399 48 2388 44
O Kotogahama 195005 196211 57 57 2 441-345 2410 58 2391 58 2367 57 2341 58
O Tochihikari 195505 196601 60 60 0 481-401 2403 59 2388 59 2367 56 2345 56
O Musoyama 199305 200411 66 64 4 538-367 2399 60 2375 64 2357 61 2339 59
O Wakahaguro 195503 196503 54 54 2 421-382 2399 61 2370 67 2337 68 2307 71
O Dejima 199609 200507 50 47 4 414-295 2394 65 2373 65 2341 66 2312 69
O Mitsuneyama 194401 196001 55 55 1 403-350 2388 66 2380 62 2358 60 2327 62
O Matsunobori 195109 196111 48 48 1 352-352 2372 70 2341 74 2319 74 2287 78
O Miyabiyama 199811 200507 39 37 2 312-249 2349 81 2314 89 2288 93 2267 93
O Masuiyama 197003 198103 59 59 0 419-432 2349 82 2316 88 2289 90 2268 92
One of the more important insights of my first study has been that there indeed is a pretty sharp cutoff line between Yokozuna and Ozeki. Now we have some more Yokozuna intermingling with the top Ozeki with Asashio and Tochinoumi (see the bottom of the first Yokozuna table) and some more top Ozeki with Kiyokuni and Maenoyama but by and large I still would assert that the cutoff line between Yokozuna and Ozeki since 1960 has been very constant with the most prominent exception still being Wakanohana III.Wakashimazu has the highest peak rating of all Ozeki in this study as well, but it was pretty short. The other ratings show Kiyokuni and Konishiki and Kaio ahead. The Musashigawa trio of Musoyama, Dejima and Miyabiyama counts among the weaker Ozeki in history. Miyabiyama even battles for the last place with Masuiyama who is the only Ozeki with a negative Makuuchi W-L record.
Ozeki 1927-1959
Rank Shikona First Last Basho Makuuchi Kyujo W-L-D Peak Rank Rating 3 Rank Rating 6 Rank
O Hitachiiwa 192701 193103 16 16 2 102-56-1 2431 50 2404 53 2370 55
O Toyokuni 192701 193010 15 15 1 107-50 2416 55 2412 49 2394 51
O Shimizugawa 192701 193705 24 24 4 158-103 2398 62 2383 60 2345 64
O Masuiyama 194101 195001 19 19 1 138-92 2386 67 2321 82 2255 114
O Ouchiyama 194901 195903 39 39 2 302-253 2369 71 2339 75 2304 80
O Noshirogata 192701 193605 30 30 3 170-142-2 2359 74 2357 69 2338 67
O Onosato 192701 193201 20 20 1 125-89 2355 77 2346 73 2327 72
O Saganohana 193905 195201 28 28 1 198-157-1 2343 86 2330 78 2308 76
O Shionoumi 194301 195105 20 20 0 125-113 2309 107 2289 107 2244 119
O Itsutsushima 193605 194201 11 11 1 86-57 2276 126 2204 172 2187 163
O Kagamiiwa 192803 193905 29 29 1 172-151 2271 133 2250 134 2227 135
O Nayoroiwa 193701 195409 42 42 2 286-279 2267 137 2265 120 2253 115

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Sekiwake 1960-2005
Rank Shikona First Last Basho Makuuchi Kyujo W-L-D Peak Rank Rating 3 Rank Rating 6 Rank Rating 10 Rank
S Hasegawa 196501 197605 69 69 0 523-501 2396 63 2380 61 2362 58 2344 57
S Kotomitsuki 199911 200507 33 28 2 294-186 2365 72 2353 70 2330 71 2300 74
S Kotonishiki 198901 200009 69 65 2 529-464 2358 76 2350 71 2334 69 2317 68
S Wakanosato 199711 200507 44 39 3 382-273 2354 78 2346 72 2332 70 2311 70
S Kotogaume 198503 199705 73 52 1 525-541 2353 80 2322 81 2299 83 2274 86
S Tamanoumi 195209 196101 40 40 1 301-276 2345 83 2316 87 2290 89 2261 96
S Hakuho 200401 200507 10 8 0 98-45 2344 84 2318 85 2231 131 2211 132
S Tochinowaka 198701 199907 75 75 1 517-589 2344 85 2319 84 2301 81 2274 87
S Tamanofuji 197409 198105 41 41 0 285-326 2338 87 2320 83 2287 95 2251 99
S Dewanohana 197711 198801 62 62 0 437-481 2337 88 2308 92 2272 100 2243 106
S Tokitsuyama 194905 196101 48 48 1 356-333 2332 89 2326 80 2308 75 2277 82
S Tochiazuma 196703 197701 58 58 1 400-445 2331 90 2297 102 2260 107 2230 116
S Tochiakagi 197705 198411 33 33 2 232-250 2330 91 2301 98 2268 103 2225 119
S Arase 197307 198105 48 48 0 347-367 2327 93 2303 96 2284 96 2262 95
S Myobudani 195907 196911 58 58 0 411-451 2326 94 2305 94 2288 91 2270 89
S Takamiyama 196801 198401 97 97 0 681-747 2325 95 2316 86 2308 78 2298 75
S Mitoizumi 198409 200009 83 75 5 575-616 2322 96 2295 103 2266 106 2241 107
S Daigo 195811 196703 51 51 0 385-373 2319 98 2311 90 2299 82 2284 80
S Tosanoumi 199411 200507 64 60 1 497-459 2317 99 2308 91 2291 88 2276 83
S Sakahoko 198211 199209 58 56 1 395-466 2314 100 2288 108 2258 109 2233 111
S Haguroyama 195405 196503 58 58 1 425-422-1 2313 102 2304 95 2295 86 2276 84
S Kongo 197009 197609 36 36 1 258-281 2313 103 2280 115 2244 118 2208 133
S Kurohimeyama 196907 198107 72 72 0 509-569 2313 104 2306 93 2293 87 2275 85
S Kirinji 197409 198809 83 83 1 574-641 2311 105 2300 99 2288 94 2269 90
S Akinoshima 198803 200305 88 88 3 640-636 2299 110 2290 105 2283 97 2273 88
S Iwakaze 195605 196505 52 52 0 373-406 2299 111 2293 104 2266 105 2232 112
S Wakamaeda 195405 196309 50 50 0 353-389 2292 113 2253 131 2208 148 2177 155
S Takatoriki 198905 200209 80 67 0 598-599 2290 114 2271 118 2258 108 2246 103
S Fujizakura 197109 198401 73 73 0 495-581 2289 115 2282 112 2271 101 2253 98
S Fujinokawa 196611 197209 31 31 0 207-239 2288 116 2281 114 2269 102 2250 100
S Washuyama 197305 198407 47 47 2 320-348 2286 118 2281 113 2255 111 2226 118
S Wakachichibu 195809 196711 51 51 0 364-398 2285 120 2257 126 2240 123 2218 126
S Mutsuarashi 196703 197603 53 53 0 368-416 2285 121 2282 111 2273 99 2254 97
S Kainoyama 196101 197001 54 54 0 381-411 2280 122 2266 119 2256 110 2243 105
S Kyokutenho 199603 200507 56 41 0 407-429 2278 123 2262 122 2244 120 2214 129
S Shinobuyama 195009 196005 43 43 0 302-319 2276 125 2248 138 2223 138 2195 141
S Wakamiyama 196401 196901 27 27 0 173-218 2273 128 2257 127 2225 137 2187 147
S Ozutsu 197903 199205 80 78 0 539-656 2272 130 2255 130 2234 129 2215 128
S Terao 198503 200209 102 92 3 685-823 2271 132 2263 121 2238 127 2214 130
S Hagurogawa 196009 196503 26 26 2 193-195 2268 135 2245 140 2222 140 2204 136
S Kotonowaka 199007 200507 87 84 4 617-653 2268 136 2246 139 2227 136 2211 131
S Tsurugamine 195303 196707 77 77 0 546-579 2265 138 2256 128 2248 116 2237 108
S Takanowaka 199905 200507 36 31 2 267-248 2262 139 2237 145 2209 146 2169 164
S Fukunohana 196509 197511 60 60 1 417-463 2261 140 2256 129 2246 117 2231 113
S Fusanishiki 195705 196509 50 50 0 348-389 2258 141 2241 142 2216 143 2191 143
S Kitanonada 195009 196203 52 52 0 364-383 2258 143 2249 135 2231 132 2205 134
S Hokutoriki 200201 200507 22 20 0 166-162 2257 144 2190 196 2154 211 2127 219
S Tochihikari 197409 198501 60 60 0 408-488 2253 147 2248 137 2238 125 2225 120
S Aobajo 197501 198601 62 62 0 427-501 2253 148 2243 141 2216 144 2190 144
S Masurao 198509 199007 22 18 2 145-145 2252 149 2217 159 2186 164 2158 176
S Dewanishiki 194711 196409 76 76 1 531-549-3 2251 151 2248 136 2241 122 2231 115
S Kitaseumi 197203 197905 39 39 0 266-308 2244 156 2228 151 2202 152 2171 161
S Tochinonada 199611 200507 52 49 1 370-383 2241 159 2238 143 2233 130 2222 122
S Kotetsuyama 196309 197401 50 50 0 320-424 2237 166 2203 174 2178 177 2159 174
S Kairyuyama 196007 196709 44 44 0 304-354 2237 167 2229 150 2219 141 2197 140
S Tamanoshima 199909 200507 35 28 0 261-259 2235 169 2227 153 2205 150 2163 168
S Oginohana 195711 196609 54 54 0 385-420 2233 171 2215 161 2199 156 2173 158
S Kurama 197607 198909 66 61 1 455-523 2233 172 2231 147 2217 142 2192 142
S Daijuyama 198009 199105 63 63 1 427-500 2227 174 2214 162 2202 153 2188 146
S Tamakasuga 199503 200507 62 52 1 433-466 2225 175 2197 177 2182 168 2164 167
S Wakashoyo 199105 199707 37 22 1 268-286 2223 178 2165 225 2125 240 2089 289
S Hayateumi 199901 200507 33 19 5 243-206 2214 191 2193 187 2153 213 2106 247
S Maedagawa 196011 196511 31 31 0 204-260 2208 196 2192 188 2171 187 2138 208
S Kotofuji 198809 199509 42 36 1 286-337 2206 201 2190 193 2174 184 2151 189
S Kaiki 197511 198611 65 65 1 445-520 2198 212 2186 198 2166 194 2147 196
S Toryu 197911 199001 56 49 1 376-457 2190 219 2163 230 2144 221 2126 220
S Masudayama 197611 198907 51 47 0 334-422 2178 232 2163 228 2139 229 2121 224
S Tochitsukasa 198309 199205 43 31 1 303-327 2175 236 2160 232 2142 226 2124 221
S Aonosato 195901 196901 60 60 0 402-492 2173 243 2172 216 2167 191 2153 183
S Tagaryu 198205 199105 54 49 0 350-440 2170 245 2138 256 2117 258 2102 254
S Ho-o 197907 198905 35 33 1 224-301 2156 257 2140 255 2121 245 2105 248
S Koboyama 198111 199011 52 47 0 338-415 2147 272 2133 262 2118 253 2107 243
The big group of Sekiwake from 1960 to 2005 is quite heterogenous as there are of course several rikishi with very negative Makuuchi W-L record who just happened to have been Sekiwake once. But at the top of this group we can see quite a good separation to the lower Ozeki. The best peak rating from any Sekiwake belongs to Hasegawa and it still is lower than Musoyama's peak. Even Dejima is only surpassed from one Sekiwake, which speaks for Musoyama and Dejima having been deserved Ozeki, if still on the low Ozeki end.There is no big change in the leading Sekiwake since my first study with the exception of Hasegawa leading now ahead of Kotomitsuki, Kotonishiki and Wakanosato. Well, Kotomitsuki and Wakanosato still may advance to Ozeki. Unless they raise their level significantly they would be among the weak Ozeki then. The way it is now they are among the best Sekiwake of all time. Which is preferrable?

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Sekiwake 1927-1959
Rank Shikona First Last Basho Makuuchi Kyujo W-L-D Peak Rank Rating 3 Rank Rating 6 Rank
S Kiyosegawa 192701 192909 12 12 0 71-53-1 2360 73 2330 77 2306 79
S Tenryu 192805 193201 13 13 2 97-44-1 2358 75 2331 76 2298 84
S Takanobori 193105 193905 18 18 3 106-93 2330 92 2289 106 2229 133
S Okitsuumi 193101 193305 10 10 1 64-39-3 2313 101 2273 116 2239 124
S Nishikinada 192701 193201 20 20 1 112-90-1 2307 108 2303 97 2288 92
S Dewagatake 192701 193501 23 23 5 124-125 2287 117 2262 123 2229 134
S Wakabayama 192701 193305 26 26 1 122-149-1 2286 119 2283 110 2255 113
S Yamanishiki 192701 193201 20 20 1 111-95-1 2278 124 2272 117 2255 112
S Tamanoumi 193501 194511 19 19 4 139-98-1 2273 129 2251 133 2201 155
S Sagamigawa 193905 194901 19 19 1 125-119 2272 131 2231 148 2176 183
S Kamikaze 194201 195005 19 19 0 121-98-1 2271 134 2260 124 2242 121
S Rikidozan 194611 195009 10 10 1 71-55 2252 150 2231 149 2222 139
S Hajimayama 194506 195905 45 45 3 302-313 2249 152 2212 165 2185 165
S Hatasegawa 192803 194001 34 34 1 174-197 2246 153 2226 154 2210 145
S Terunobori 194201 195501 33 33 2 218-225 2240 162 2222 155 2189 162
S Futasegawa 194005 194706 14 14 0 80-91 2210 194 2190 195 2127 239
S Ayagawa 193005 193705 16 16 1 85-93 2208 195 2190 194 2158 204
S Dewaminato 193501 194411 20 20 1 120-116-1 2206 202 2205 170 2191 160
S Ayanobori 193401 194506 23 23 1 141-129-1 2202 207 2195 186 2181 173
S Hishuzan 193101 194506 18 18 1 113-119 2198 211 2183 204 2159 202
S Kasagiyama 193505 194511 21 21 1 134-139 2195 215 2183 203 2161 198
S Banjaku 193405 194301 18 18 0 103-118 2192 216 2175 213 2143 223
S Kozuzan 194305 195301 22 22 2 123-149-1 2192 217 2175 212 2136 230
S Bishuyama 194101 195409 36 36 0 212-262 2186 225 2179 210 2157 206
S Shinkai 192705 193705 28 28 1 145-164-1 2182 230 2180 208 2169 188
S Taikyuzan 193205 194401 21 21 2 121-134-1 2150 266 2138 258 2110 273
S Oshio 193201 194105 21 21 2 97-131 2148 271 2124 274 2103 282
S Ryogoku 193202 194205 24 24 0 135-155 2141 283 2116 292 2092 307
S Asahigawa 193202 194205 23 23 1 116-154-2 2135 297 2116 294 2093 303
S Fudoiwa 194411 195205 19 19 0 103-125 2124 318 2121 281 2100 290
In comparison to the Ozeki level in the first half of the Showa era, the two best Sekiwake Kiyosegawa and Tenryu should have become Ozeki. Ok, for Kiyosegawa I only have the tail end of his career, before that it wasn't that good. And Tenryu actually was so unhappy about his non-promotion to Ozeki that he was leading the mass rikishi drain following the Shunjuuen incident in 1932. The following Sekiwake were better than the Ozeki on the last places in the Ozeki table but I think this is more speaking against the Ozeki than for the Sekiwake.

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Komusubi 1960-2005
Rank Shikona First Last Basho Makuuchi Kyujo W-L-D Peak Rank Rating 3 Rank Rating 6 Rank Rating 10 Rank
K Ryuko 196803 197505 35 35 1 239-259 2320 97 2299 100 2276 98 2248 102
K Fujinishiki 195901 196811 59 59 0 414-465 2309 106 2288 109 2267 104 2249 101
K Kotooshu 200405 200507 8 6 0 77-42 2300 109 2220 156 2193 159 2185 148
K Yutakayama 197111 198011 51 51 0 349-413 2274 127 2257 125 2236 128 2217 127
K Wakafutase 196603 197305 36 36 0 238-302 2258 142 2237 144 2201 154 2169 163
K Iwakiyama 200203 200507 21 17 0 165-141 2246 154 2219 157 2185 166 2139 204
K Haguroiwa 196701 197707 55 55 0 381-425 2244 155 2227 152 2206 149 2181 151
K Asahiyutaka 199311 199901 32 24 0 228-250 2242 157 2185 200 2149 218 2110 239
K Takamisakari 200001 200507 28 23 2 213-193 2241 160 2207 169 2176 182 2139 205
K Wakanoumi 195503 196311 48 48 0 332-364-1 2239 163 2217 158 2189 161 2161 170
K Ryogoku 198703 199211 35 32 0 239-263 2237 165 2216 160 2197 157 2179 154
K Futagodake 196701 197609 57 57 0 375-458-1 2236 168 2212 164 2181 172 2158 178
K Misugisato 198805 199807 62 53 0 422-497 2224 176 2203 173 2181 174 2160 173
K Ohikari 195009 196311 63 63 1 451-490-1 2223 179 2212 163 2195 158 2172 159
K Kenko 199103 199711 37 27 3 259-295 2219 182 2197 179 2165 195 2129 217
K Wakanami 196305 197203 52 52 0 349-429 2218 183 2191 190 2173 186 2156 180
K Hirokawa 196207 196803 32 32 0 217-250 2218 185 2173 214 2150 217 2129 218
K Onishiki 197309 198709 53 53 0 345-425 2217 186 2196 181 2179 175 2158 177
K Sadanoumi 198011 198803 45 45 0 302-371 2215 188 2195 185 2178 179 2160 172
K Kakizoe 200303 200507 15 12 0 122-103 2214 190 2198 176 2161 199 2149 193
K Toyokuni 196111 196711 37 37 0 248-291 2211 193 2197 180 2179 176 2163 169
K Kyokudozan 198901 199611 47 47 1 322-380 2208 198 2185 201 2153 212 2131 216
K Oshio 197109 198405 51 51 0 332-411 2207 200 2183 206 2155 209 2134 211
K Daishoho 199101 199905 48 33 3 336-366 2205 203 2172 217 2152 214 2131 214
K Hananoumi 198503 198907 25 25 2 162-181 2204 204 2190 197 2177 181 2170 162
K Toki 199707 200507 47 37 1 331-368 2204 205 2183 205 2161 196 2143 200
K Aobayama 197511 198111 31 31 0 206-257 2200 209 2190 192 2174 185 2149 192
K Kurosegawa 197805 198301 26 26 0 171-215 2199 210 2166 220 2141 228 2118 226
K Banryuyama 197503 198301 32 32 0 199-267 2191 218 2142 251 2117 256 2093 273
K Oginishiki 199111 200401 70 45 4 493-514 2187 223 2179 209 2156 208 2132 212
K Shimotori 200105 200507 26 19 0 189-191 2186 224 2153 237 2127 237 2087 293
K Tomoefuji 199007 199505 29 17 1 198-197 2186 226 2167 219 2121 249 2078 307
K Wakajishi 197301 198207 31 31 0 199-261 2184 227 2164 227 2135 231 2105 249
K Naruyama 195309 196203 37 37 0 261-294 2175 237 2166 222 2156 207 2136 210
K Chiyotenzan 199701 200507 47 22 1 322-376 2174 238 2151 239 2118 254 2069 325
K Shionishiki 195201 196107 46 46 0 315-370-1 2169 246 2143 245 2121 247 2098 260
K Kyokushuzan 199503 200507 62 54 0 425-499 2166 248 2165 226 2157 205 2147 197
K Tochinohana 199901 200507 32 14 1 227-235 2166 250 2096 333 2051 394 2006 463
K Tamakiyama 197405 197909 24 24 0 152-194 2157 256 2133 261 2112 268 2091 279
K Wakanoyama 199107 200507 68 31 1 481-529 2153 259 2125 272 2096 297 2067 331
K Kanenohana 195803 196701 42 42 0 285-334 2151 263 2130 266 2117 255 2102 253
K Kaiho 199705 200507 49 42 1 348-379 2148 269 2134 260 2112 270 2089 291
K Kotoinazuma 198711 199907 68 60 1 461-539 2148 270 2123 279 2104 279 2092 276
K Futatsuryu 197203 198003 28 28 1 185-225 2147 275 2131 265 2120 251 2108 242
K Tomonohana 199211 200109 50 15 4 357-373 2140 284 2125 271 2097 295 2057 357
K Itai 198009 199109 54 53 1 330-436 2140 285 2132 263 2122 243 2112 237
K Daizen 199011 200301 72 35 2 518-553 2139 286 2129 267 2113 267 2091 278
K Jingaku 198301 199109 48 47 0 306-397 2138 288 2124 273 2116 261 2106 246
K Takamisugi 198107 199511 71 70 1 468-569 2134 299 2127 269 2114 263 2105 250
K Mainoumi 199103 199911 52 36 1 359-407 2133 300 2105 311 2091 312 2079 303
K Hamanoshima 199301 200201 54 44 1 369-437 2129 306 2106 309 2090 314 2076 313
K Takanofuji 198605 199205 37 33 0 234-316 2115 327 2102 317 2093 305 2080 302
K Maenoshin 198511 199001 17 10 0 109-146 2113 331 2068 384 2024 449 2005 465
K Daitetsu 198311 199009 42 31 0 286-345 2108 343 2093 337 2085 321 2074 318
K Tamaryu 198205 199111 46 30 0 307-383 2104 351 2099 321 2084 322 2066 334
K Oyutaka 198205 198407 13 13 0 83-110 2104 354 2089 347 2076 339 2073 322
K Naminohana 199011 199701 37 18 0 265-289 2101 361 2086 353 2063 361 2034 413
The two best Komusubi since 1960 seem to have been Ryuko and Fujinishiki who are clearly ahead of the huge rest of the field. Iwakiyama and Takamisakari are still active, and can still claim a higher career best rank, not to speak of Kotooshu of course.
Komusubi 1927-1959
Rank Shikona First Last Basho Makuuchi Kyujo W-L-D Peak Rank Rating 3 Rank Rating 6 Rank
K Manazuru 192701 193110 17 17 3 85-95 2257 145 2252 132 2238 126
K Shimizugawa 194711 195809 41 41 0 284-293 2257 146 2236 146 2208 147
K Wakashima 192901 193905 26 26 1 149-145 2214 192 2201 175 2181 171
K Kotonishiki 194411 195505 30 30 1 186-213 2195 214 2185 202 2168 189
K Wakasegawa 194201 195901 54 54 0 347-392 2189 220 2180 207 2161 197
K Sakuranishiki 194001 195105 24 24 2 148-144 2189 221 2173 215 2158 203
K Kuninobori 194810 195907 44 44 0 289-303-1 2189 222 2155 235 2134 232
K Matsuragata 193801 194411 12 12 0 78-84 2174 241 2143 244 2120 252
K Itsutsuumi 194405 195009 13 13 2 68-81 2174 242 2163 229 2143 224
K Otachi 194611 195805 40 40 1 263-304-1 2165 252 2143 248 2117 257
K Tokinishiki 195601 195909 19 19 1 133-145 2138 287 2117 290 2083 324
K Kyushuzan 193401 194506 18 18 5 101-113-7 2137 292 2109 303 2076 338
K Wakabayama 194706 195911 49 49 0 323-382-1 2125 316 2118 287 2103 280
K Tomoegata 193205 194005 18 18 0 93-123 2104 352 2079 366 2050 396
K Miyanishiki 195201 195907 28 28 0 192-228 2097 371 2062 402 2033 432
Manazuru and Shimzugawa have been the best Komusubi before 1960.

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Maegashira 1960-2005
Rank Shikona First Last Basho Makuuchi Kyujo W-L-D Peak Rank Rating 3 Rank Rating 6 Rank Rating 10 Rank
M1 Kokkai 200305 200507 14 10 0 116-92 2241 161 2191 189 2134 235 2120 225
M1 Asasegawa 196403 197007 29 29 0 187-235 2223 177 2197 178 2177 180 2149 194
M2 Asanobori 196903 197405 13 13 0 82-113 2220 180 2166 221 2124 242 2114 235
M1 Taiga 196907 197607 27 27 0 182-216 2218 184 2195 184 2166 193 2143 199
M1 Amanoyama 197803 198407 30 30 0 198-252 2217 187 2186 199 2161 201 2131 215
M1 Kushimaumi 198903 199809 58 35 0 430-423 2208 197 2196 183 2181 170 2165 165
M1 Roho 200401 200507 10 6 0 86-62 2197 213 2124 275 2098 292 2091 282
M2 Kinoarashi 198203 199101 23 14 2 157-180 2184 228 2141 253 2101 288 2065 335
M1 Daiyu 196305 197209 43 43 0 295-349 2178 234 2158 233 2146 219 2132 213
M1 Yoshinohana 196411 197303 36 36 0 233-296 2177 235 2166 223 2144 222 2116 229
M1 Hananokuni 198803 199401 36 24 0 244-274 2174 239 2155 236 2134 233 2096 266
M2 Daishoyama 199005 199509 31 22 2 227-235 2174 240 2165 224 2150 216 2116 228
M2 Misogidori 196609 196905 14 14 0 88-107 2172 244 2143 247 2115 262 2107 245
M3 Hanahikari 196511 197001 25 25 0 170-205 2162 253 2134 259 2114 264 2095 267
M2 Tokibayama 196709 197407 36 36 0 237-299 2161 254 2141 254 2125 241 2108 241
M1 Dairyugawa 196809 197711 26 26 0 161-228 2154 258 2143 243 2114 265 2087 294
M1 Aogiyama 199111 200311 68 36 3 473-525 2151 264 2129 268 2112 271 2089 290
M1 Futatsuryu 195209 196009 36 36 0 239-301 2150 265 2141 252 2121 246 2091 283
M2 Wakanoumi 197207 197709 21 21 1 144-171 2149 268 2146 241 2127 238 2115 231
M2 Shinkawa 195903 196107 15 15 0 107-114 2147 273 2142 249 2120 250 2115 232
M1 Tochioyama 196301 197201 34 34 1 222-270 2147 276 2144 242 2134 234 2114 233
M3 Tokitsuumi 199705 200507 48 39 2 345-363 2146 277 2142 250 2122 244 2100 257
M2 Kirinishiki 198607 199501 48 32 3 327-368 2144 279 2132 264 2116 260 2100 258
M1 Wakatenryu 196109 196901 29 29 0 193-237 2141 282 2123 280 2103 281 2080 301
M2 Asasekiryu 200207 200507 19 15 0 146-136 2138 289 2119 285 2086 319 2061 343
M1 Higonoumi 199207 200211 59 51 4 388-469 2137 291 2114 297 2102 285 2094 268
M1 Zaonishiki 197611 198209 24 24 0 148-211 2136 295 2126 270 2098 293 2076 314
M1 Tenryu 197301 197609 16 16 0 107-132 2132 302 2117 289 2095 298 2090 286
M1 Toyonoumi 198811 199903 63 30 0 450-494 2131 305 2121 283 2108 274 2093 271
M2 Misugiiso 197711 198605 35 35 0 231-286 2128 309 2115 296 2105 278 2088 292
M2 Oginohana 198907 199807 54 26 1 405-395 2127 310 2121 282 2112 269 2094 269
M1 Ryuo 197011 197603 28 28 0 181-237 2127 312 2117 288 2107 275 2091 281
M1 Kotobeppu 198907 199709 32 25 2 208-261 2125 314 2110 301 2095 299 2057 355
M3 Kototsubaki 198909 199411 31 14 1 228-227 2125 317 2111 300 2082 325 2049 375
M2 Minatofuji 199201 200207 61 45 1 418-492 2123 319 2116 293 2102 284 2090 284
M1 Wakasegawa 198301 199207 34 33 0 217-278 2123 320 2120 284 2112 272 2101 255
M1 Kotoryu 199407 200505 58 49 4 402-430 2121 321 2112 299 2105 277 2098 262
M1 Aminishiki 200001 200507 34 29 0 243-257 2119 323 2115 295 2101 286 2077 310
M2 Yoshioyama 196911 197409 16 16 0 98-141 2112 332 2097 328 2081 326 2077 311
M3 Atagoyama 195703 196005 17 17 0 102-118 2112 334 2085 355 2048 402 2037 407
M2 Asanosho 199303 200007 38 31 2 266-292 2112 335 2104 314 2087 318 2069 326
M3 Udagawa 196001 196507 31 31 0 206-258 2112 336 2090 343 2073 343 2057 354
M4 Kiraiho 198901 199605 38 25 0 267-302 2112 337 2087 351 2074 341 2053 363
M2 Kaizan 195301 196107 42 42 0 294-333 2107 344 2100 319 2091 310 2078 308
M1 Shikishima 199305 200101 44 27 1 302-341 2107 345 2093 336 2078 332 2061 345
M1 Narutoumi 194910 196011 44 44 0 294-357-1 2107 346 2091 342 2072 344 2057 358
M1 Kasugafuji 198901 199609 46 42 1 319-370 2103 356 2098 326 2091 311 2083 297
M3 Owashi 197211 197611 18 18 0 114-156 2101 359 2099 322 2080 328 2074 319
M3 Kitakachidoki 198901 200007 69 48 1 479-554 2099 363 2096 331 2090 315 2081 300
M1 Enazakura 198711 199403 39 26 0 270-314 2098 366 2095 334 2089 316 2063 339
M1 Tochisakae 199803 200507 31 22 3 228-207 2097 368 2081 363 2067 351 2044 387
M4 Shiratayama 197103 197507 14 14 0 87-122 2097 369 2086 354 2060 368 2054 362
M1 Asanowaka 199301 200503 74 52 0 519-590 2096 372 2081 360 2072 345 2064 337
M3 Gojoro 199507 200505 49 17 4 343-351 2091 379 2062 399 2042 414 2019 445
M1 Tsunenishiki 195803 196409 26 26 0 164-223-1 2090 382 2072 378 2056 377 2030 421
M1 Wakasugiyama 195903 196611 21 21 0 126-186 2088 387 2066 391 2036 427 2023 438
M3 Kiminishiki 196107 196609 21 21 0 138-166 2087 390 2067 387 2052 390 2045 379
M2 Shishiho 197909 198603 17 17 0 99-146 2085 391 2067 388 2040 418 2032 417
M3 Amatsukaze 196201 196601 16 16 0 96-132 2085 392 2079 367 2067 354 2064 336
M2 Tochitsurugi 198203 198705 28 28 0 186-234 2083 396 2082 359 2079 331 2067 330
M1 Sasshunada 198609 199207 35 19 0 239-286 2082 397 2070 381 2056 375 2025 431
M1 Fujinoshin 198609 199005 17 14 1 109-137 2081 402 2069 383 2050 398 2042 391
M1 Buyuzan 200005 200507 28 22 0 197-212 2080 404 2073 376 2060 367 2031 419
M4 Tokitsunada 199009 199905 49 19 0 356-373 2079 405 2078 369 2069 348 2048 376
M6 Wakanaruto 196301 196903 20 20 0 133-166 2078 406 2075 371 2062 363 2053 364
M8 Iwanami 197707 198111 16 16 1 102-135 2075 410 2064 394 2044 411 2038 403
M1 Ganyu 199201 200003 30 23 0 189-251 2075 411 2064 395 2052 387 2029 426
M6 Oiteyama 196005 196701 16 16 1 107-133 2075 414 2060 407 2043 413 2038 404
M4 Fukudayama 195903 196109 15 15 0 100-122 2075 415 2057 413 2041 416 2038 405
M1 Hidanohana 198009 198901 26 25 0 157-232 2073 418 2068 385 2052 388 2026 430
M3 Daishi 199305 200203 54 23 0 371-425 2071 422 2068 386 2058 371 2030 422
M6 Jumonji 199801 200507 35 25 1 252-270 2067 429 2062 398 2046 407 2023 436
M8 Wakanokuni 195911 196807 23 23 0 138-201 2063 437 2042 442 2025 448 2013 457
M4 Hoshikabuto 195505 196303 26 26 0 170-217 2057 444 2042 441 2018 460 1997 477
M6 Kiryugawa 194711 196001 18 18 1 121-145 2056 446 2021 472 1987 494 1972 509
M6 Kinkaiyama 199801 200507 39 17 1 281-298 2049 464 2031 458 2016 463 2003 469
M4 Otsukasa 199601 200507 53 24 0 375-420 2047 465 2032 454 2017 461 2002 472
M6 Izuminada 195405 196007 28 28 0 190-221-1 2037 479 2029 462 2007 473 1982 492
M9 Kiyosegawa 195903 196311 19 19 0 114-170 2029 487 2014 482 2001 479 1998 475
M10 Oikawa 195709 196101 21 21 0 147-163 2026 489 2017 478 2003 478 1994 481
M8 Yoshinomine 195505 196211 25 25 1 157-214 2022 493 2010 486 1985 496 1971 512
Kokkai is leading this table. Well, the probability that he'll finish his career as moto-Maegashira is quite low so let me conclude that Asasegawa has been the best career Maegashira of all time. He was ranked between M1 and M4 13 times with 4 kachi-koshi, but never got into Sanyaku.

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Maegashira 1927-1959
Rank Shikona First Last Basho Makuuchi Kyujo W-L-D Peak Rank Rating 3 Rank Rating 6 Rank
M1 Orochiyama 192701 193010 15 15 1 57-95-1 2241 158 2209 166 2166 192
M2 Hoshikabuto 192701 193103 14 14 4 65-65 2233 170 2204 171 2184 167
M1 Kashimanada 193805 194611 17 17 0 110-115 2230 173 2175 211 2145 220
M2 Sotogahama 192701 193401 21 21 3 101-113 2220 181 2207 167 2168 190
M2 Shinobuyama 192901 193201 12 12 1 67-58-1 2215 189 2207 168 2205 151
M3 Rainomine 192701 193201 20 20 1 100-114 2200 208 2196 182 2181 169
M3 Matsunosato 193905 194506 12 12 1 84-78 2182 229 2138 257 2121 248
M1 Tamaikari 192803 193201 15 15 1 75-88-1 2181 231 2172 218 2155 210
M1 Yoshinoyama 192701 193301 25 25 1 101-170 2178 233 2155 234 2132 236
M4 Ikedagawa 192705 193003 12 12 0 49-82 2166 247 2107 307 2072 346
M2 Ryuozan 193805 194401 10 10 0 54-79-1 2151 261 2109 305 2086 320
M1 Wakahitachi 192701 193010 14 14 0 54-98 2151 262 2106 310 2057 373
M2 Tsukubane 193301 193805 11 11 0 51-73 2145 278 2088 348 2057 374
M2 Tsurugidake 192705 193201 17 17 1 62-123 2144 280 2090 345 2051 391
M2 Banshinzan 193401 193905 11 11 0 56-72-1 2134 298 2104 312 2066 358
M1 Kashiwado 194105 194901 16 16 0 80-107 2132 301 2123 277 2092 306
M2 Hitachidake 192701 193010 15 15 1 65-94 2132 303 2093 338 2067 353
M1 Onobori 195101 195605 20 20 1 136-159 2131 304 2123 278 2090 313
M1 Futamiyama 194105 194706 11 11 1 56-69 2128 307 2113 298 2097 296
M1 Dewaminato 195305 195801 20 20 0 135-146 2128 308 2100 320 2060 365
M3 Takaragawa 192705 193405 20 20 1 102-114 2127 311 2123 276 2113 266
M2 Kusunishiki 194506 195401 24 24 0 147-178 2126 313 2086 352 2051 392
M1 Tokachiiwa 194405 195105 17 17 0 90-102 2125 315 2117 291 2094 301
M4 Yamatonishiki 193105 194305 12 12 2 80-80 2120 322 2106 308 2100 289
M3 Kuganishiki 194001 194711 16 16 0 84-118-2 2119 325 2064 393 2039 419
M1 Wakasegawa 193001 193401 15 15 1 63-98 2113 330 2098 327 2068 349
M6 Fujinosato 193005 194205 14 14 1 75-96 2111 338 2104 313 2081 327
M1 Tatekabuto 193405 194301 16 16 1 92-119-1 2110 340 2075 372 2051 393
M2 Futaseyama 194810 195605 28 28 0 181-223 2109 341 2088 350 2066 356
M2 Kaikozan 193201 193901 13 13 1 68-83 2106 348 2089 346 2077 334
M5 Taroyama 192801 193405 20 20 1 95-123 2106 349 2094 335 2076 337
M1 Orochigata 194805 195705 33 33 0 213-255 2103 355 2096 332 2074 340
M2 Shiraiwa 192701 192909 11 11 1 39-76-1 2102 358 2045 430 2016 465
M1 Koganoura 192901 193405 20 20 1 78-132 2101 360 2081 362 2061 364
M3 Wakaminato 193801 194506 16 16 0 93-121 2094 374 2077 370 2063 362
M6 Asahikari 192701 193003 13 13 1 57-75 2093 376 2088 349 2079 330
M3 Komatsuyama 194001 194506 11 11 0 46-72 2090 383 2059 409 2052 389
M1 Kiyomigawa 194005 194611 13 13 0 72-86-1 2088 385 2071 380 2050 397
M1 Katsuragawa 193405 194201 15 15 0 71-110 2088 386 2080 365 2053 384
M3 Shachinosato 193701 194706 18 18 0 84-135-2 2087 389 2062 401 2030 439
M1 Shimanishiki 195209 195905 31 31 0 211-246-1 2082 398 2067 389 2054 379
M2 Kinkazan 193105 193901 10 10 2 47-63-1 2082 399 2051 427 2027 443
M2 Tsunenoyama 194905 195609 27 27 0 183-202 2082 400 2072 377 2053 383
M8 Hitachishima 192701 193201 15 15 1 64-71 2081 401 2067 390 2046 406
M6 Osegawa 195403 195907 21 21 0 148-161 2077 408 2059 408 2034 430
M2 Komanosato 193305 194101 15 15 0 74-100 2075 412 2054 420 2026 445
M3 Onami 193301 194101 15 15 1 81-102 2075 413 2038 450 2010 468
M1 Yakatayama 194105 195205 25 25 1 141-172-1 2074 416 2064 396 2054 382
M9 Mutsunosato 194101 194810 11 11 2 72-70 2072 420 2043 436 2028 442
M4 Jintozan 193901 194511 15 15 0 88-109 2072 421 2055 416 2034 429
M4 Aichiyama 194506 195303 21 21 0 125-155 2066 430 2053 425 2033 431
M2 Tsurugamine 193705 194706 19 19 1 98-137 2066 432 2054 419 2039 420
M1 Dewanohana 193202 194005 13 13 3 67-76 2065 434 2038 449 2012 467
M4 Toshuzan 193301 193901 13 13 0 64-86 2065 436 2054 422 2038 425
M3 Onoumi 194411 195105 16 16 0 87-107-3 2063 438 2042 440 2021 454
M5 Ayawaka 193405 194205 15 15 0 89-95 2059 442 2039 444 2020 458
M3 Hirosegawa 194301 195805 43 43 0 261-321 2057 445 2043 437 2032 434
M2 Kiyoenami 194901 195901 36 36 0 237-294 2056 448 2043 435 2020 457
M6 Arakuma 192701 193010 16 16 0 70-105 2054 454 2044 434 2032 435
M5 Kaneminato 193405 194101 11 11 0 60-84 2053 456 2019 475 2001 480
M5 Kaminishiki 194901 195711 32 32 0 215-238 2052 457 2026 466 2008 471
M4 Aobayama 193705 194401 14 14 0 77-118-5 2052 458 2037 451 2024 450
M9 Midorikuni 194305 195009 12 12 1 67-89 2026 490 1999 499 1975 516
M12 Fujitayama 194711 195303 13 13 1 73-97 2010 506 1978 528 1958 535
M10 Hiodoshi 195001 195803 22 22 0 139-168 2008 510 1989 509 1965 530
M6 Wakashio 194105 194910 18 18 0 89-127 2006 512 1997 503 1984 498
M6 Okuma 194205 195001 10 10 2 54-69 1997 528 1989 511 1978 512
M10 Kainoyama 195009 195401 12 12 0 83-97 1995 530 1984 517 1966 529
M9 Oiwazan 194611 195305 17 17 0 91-143 1988 535 1972 533 1941 561
M12 Koinose 195705 195909 10 10 0 66-83 1988 537 1964 541 1955 539
M11 Sakurakuni 195101 195605 11 11 0 66-77-1 1966 560 1951 561 1934 572
M13 Yoshidagawa 195005 195401 11 11 0 72-93 1965 561 1946 566 1941 559
M11 Yoshiiyama 194910 195709 27 27 0 161-223-1 1964 563 1961 549 1950 550
M4 Imizugawa 193202 193801 13 13 0 61-79 1956 574 1948 564 1945 556
M16 Yasome 195605 195905 12 12 0 76-103 1944 590 1932 592 1926 587

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Do some work, will you? It's like you just threw this together in a couple minutes. (Blushing...)

No, really, I agree with wow. Now I get to spend a few days^Wweeks mulling over this.

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Unless they raise their level significantly they would be among the weak Ozeki then. The way it is now they are among the best Sekiwake of all time. Which is preferrable?

Of course becoming an Ozeki ist preferable. You won't become an Ozeki for nothing.You have to clear the hurdle, and if you manage to do that you have accomplished something a Sekiwake has never done.

I really wonder why being the best of the weak should be better than being among the worst of the strong?

Ah, and by the way: Great work!

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This is simply amazing set of work, lot of interesting stats.

As a history "otaku", I'd also like to see Hitachiyama and how he stack up against other later yokozunas like Futabayama. I noticed Musashiyama in there as well at a lower down the list but what amazing about him was his Makuuchi/Komusubi/Ozeki days prior to his promotion to Yokozuna. He got injured just prior to getting promoted to Yokozuna and he was never the same afterwards. So unfortunately taken together he appears to be a more of mediocre Yokozuna but he certainly was not an average rikishi.

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This is simply amazing set of work, lot of interesting stats.

As a history "otaku", I'd also like to see Hitachiyama and how he stack up against other later yokozunas like Futabayama.  I noticed Musashiyama in there as well at a lower down the list but what amazing about him was his Makuuchi/Komusubi/Ozeki days prior to his promotion to Yokozuna.  He got injured just prior to getting promoted to Yokozuna and he was never the same afterwards.  So unfortunately taken together he appears to be a more of mediocre Yokozuna but he certainly was not an average rikishi.

Well, the ratings do factor all Makuuchi bouts, not only the ones as Yokozuna. But his career wasn't that long, in number of active basho. And he still is better than the best Ozeki of that time, so he certainly wasn't average.

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He got injured just prior to getting promoted to Yokozuna and he was never the same afterwards.

(Blushing...) Did I just imagine those 7 yusho he won after becoming Yokozuna? At any rate, what you're saying is not born out by the ratings. All of Musashimaru's really high ratings came when he was a Yokozuna; the ratings he had while Ozeki are in the ballpark for exactly that, an Ozeki, albeit a very good one.

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He got injured just prior to getting promoted to Yokozuna and he was never the same afterwards.

(Blushing...) Did I just imagine those 7 yusho he won after becoming Yokozuna? At any rate, what you're saying is not born out by the ratings. All of Musashimaru's really high ratings came when he was a Yokozuna; the ratings he had while Ozeki are in the ballpark for exactly that, an Ozeki, albeit a very good one.

I think he's talking about Musashiyama, not Musashimaru.

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Of course becoming an Ozeki ist preferable. You won't become an Ozeki for nothing.You have to clear the hurdle, and if you manage to do that you have accomplished something a Sekiwake has never done.

I really wonder why being the best of the weak should be better than being among the worst of the strong?

In principle I agree. Problem arises when even the question of clearing the hurdle is in doubt, magnified by a weak showing at the higher rank. Prime examples are Miyabiyama and Wakanohana III. Even when they "cleared the hurdle" it was somewhat questionable at that time. The Kyokai shouldn't have promoted Miyabiyama (like it was done with Kotomitsuki later), and as my ratings show they usually get these decisions right.

Wakanohana III is different as he fulfilled the hard criterium of two successive yusho so it was difficult to deny the promotion, especially with Futagoyama oyakata pressing behind the curtains. Still, his record in the six basho before the two yusho was just 43-21-26 and the second yusho was at 12-3, so it wasn't difficult to see the disaster looming. The year after the promotion went 59-26-5 and then it was all downhill.

In these two cases I'd honestly prefer to remember them as strong Sekiwake or Ozeki and not as disasters at Ozeki or Yokozuna.

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In these two cases I'd honestly prefer to remember them as strong Sekiwake or Ozeki and not as disasters at Ozeki or Yokozuna.

Then again, Miyabiyama isn't even a particularly strong Sekiwake once you go beyond the R3 rating, merely above-average. He really did get a huge break by getting promoted to Ozeki, compared to his actual career achievements.

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Of course becoming an Ozeki ist preferable. You won't become an Ozeki for nothing.You have to clear the hurdle, and if you manage to do that you have accomplished something a Sekiwake has never done.

I really wonder why being the best of the weak should be better than being among the worst of the strong?

In principle I agree. Problem arises when even the question of clearing the hurdle is in doubt, magnified by a weak showing at the higher rank. Prime examples are Miyabiyama and Wakanohana III. Even when they "cleared the hurdle" it was somewhat questionable at that time. The Kyokai shouldn't have promoted Miyabiyama (like it was done with Kotomitsuki later), and as my ratings show they usually get these decisions right.

Wakanohana III is different as he fulfilled the hard criterium of two successive yusho so it was difficult to deny the promotion, especially with Futagoyama oyakata pressing behind the curtains. Still, his record in the six basho before the two yusho was just 43-21-26 and the second yusho was at 12-3, so it wasn't difficult to see the disaster looming. The year after the promotion went 59-26-5 and then it was all downhill.

In these two cases I'd honestly prefer to remember them as strong Sekiwake or Ozeki and not as disasters at Ozeki or Yokozuna.

I think Miyabiyama is a very special case because he basically had only three strong basho in Sanyaku. But those three were back to back so he passed the promotion hurdle in numbers. I also don't think that his heya advantage should be taken into consideration because as an Ozeki he did not have to face his dobeya rikishi either. So Miyabiyama had the right to become an Ozeki, but his sad career afterwards made him a weak Ozeki that deserved to lose the rank quickly. That aside he won 34 in Sanyaku over three basho which for a very short time put him above everything Wakanosato has accomlished so far. But of course a promotion can only be based on the currend situation and possibly on the expected potential. In Miyabiyama's case he completely failed to live up to his early promise.

The thing that surprises me most in your ratings is that the Yokozuna promotion criteria obviously works very well. Now there are only two good basho in a row needed for promotion so I guess "normal" Ozeki at the class of Chiyotaikai or Tochiazuma at two Ozeki Yusho each could have been lucky more often and been promoted like Wakanohana.

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Awesome! I sure hope you computed these ratings in an automated fashion. Otherwise you are a looney :)

The ratings themselves are derived Elo-style, I presume?

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Awesome! I sure hope you computed these ratings in an automated fashion. Otherwise you are a looney :)

The ratings themselves are derived Elo-style, I presume?

Of course I automated as much as possible. And who says that I'm no looney? (Bleh!) The ratings are derived with the simple Elo-style formula, yes. A more detailed explanation can be found here. The delicate part is devising a good initial rating to all rikishi who appears into the system for the first time.

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The ratings are derived with the simple Elo-style formula, yes.

Oh, a large classical -oriented string section incorporated into commercial rock and roll with Jeff Lynne! I can relate to that.

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(Laughing...)

Anyway, thank you for the link - I am enough of a math-head to be interested in the gory details!

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Me too wow.

Thanks, Doitsuyama!

This is the quintessential Forum posting. It is the result of a great body of work. It is highly informative. It gives us something to chew on for hours and hours. And it has high entertainment value.

For instance, I've learnt some great new shikona:

Ozeki Ouchiyama (always thought this was just a Bench Sumo shikona)

Sekiwake Wakachichibu ("Gesundheit", as Moti uses to say).

Sekiwake Ho-o (in a Santa Claus mawashi?)

Sekiwake Kamikaze, active between 1942 and 1950 (well, maybe not really entertaining, but interesting).

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Sekiwake Wakachichibu ("Gesundheit", as Moti uses to say).

Actually, Wakachichibu is from my time, and he was, together with Taihou and Tsurugamine (Terao's father) my favorite rikishi then. He was a short, fat guy, but always entertaining and full of surprises, not in an Asanowaka-esque way, but in a serious way.

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Brilliant. I loved these stats last time you posted them, but the historical data is awesome.

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