Ack! 478 Posted January 26, 2013 Does anyone know how the rikishi is chosen to do the daily closing ceremony? Is there particular meaning to the motions? I always find it interesting to watch, especially to listen to the crowd cheer as one foot comes down. On a separate topic, does anyone have a list of the former rikishi that participate in the song that follows the closing ceremony on the live feed? I have a partial list, and being new to sumo, it is hard to understand some of the history of who is who. Thanks in advance to anyone who might satisfy my curiosity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nabuko 11 Posted January 26, 2013 (edited) As far as I know yumitori rikishi is commonly guy from the same beya or ichimon as yokozuna. Usually from sandame or makushita and they look for somebody that can perform well that activity. And he is taking that responsability for several years. There is further link http://www.sumoforum.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=30125&hl=yumitori Edited January 26, 2013 by Nabuko 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asojima 2,874 Posted January 26, 2013 Does anyone know how the rikishi is chosen to do the daily closing ceremony? Is there particular meaning to the motions? I always find it interesting to watch, especially to listen to the crowd cheer as one foot comes down. On the final day of the basho, the winners of the final three matches are/were presented with arrows, a bowstring and, finally a bow. Watch for the arrows and the bowstring tonight. The bow is no longer presented, but in the distant past, one of the recipients used it to perform a dance to show his appreciation for the award. The daily performance of the yumitori rikishi commemorates this event and is a symbol of appreciation for the fans' attendance. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,682 Posted January 26, 2013 On a separate topic, does anyone have a list of the former rikishi that participate in the song that follows the closing ceremony on the live feed? I have a partial list, and being new to sumo, it is hard to understand some of the history of who is who.A list of the singing oyakata can be found here. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronnie 221 Posted January 27, 2013 Does anyone know how the rikishi is chosen to do the daily closing ceremony? Is there particular meaning to the motions? I always find it interesting to watch, especially to listen to the crowd cheer as one foot comes down. On the final day of the basho, the winners of the final three matches are/were presented with arrows, a bowstring and, finally a bow. Watch for the arrows and the bowstring tonight. The bow is no longer presented, but in the distant past, one of the recipients used it to perform a dance to show his appreciation for the award. The daily performance of the yumitori rikishi commemorates this event and is a symbol of appreciation for the fans' attendance. When I see "dance" used in this context, I'm always compelled to think "kata". So I googled it and I came across this interesting list...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_past_sumo_wrestlers or at least, I found it interesting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aderechelsea 125 Posted January 27, 2013 i am sure there is a short list somewhere (but i cannot find it now) of the rikishi that performed the yumitorishiki and went all the way to sekitori ranks. Except Oga i cannot recall anyone else breaking "the curse". anyone else have it handy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,682 Posted January 27, 2013 i am sure there is a short list somewhere (but i cannot find it now) of the rikishi that performed the yumitorishiki and went all the way to sekitori ranks.Except Oga i cannot recall anyone else breaking "the curse". anyone else have it handy? Oooold and rather deformatted (by 8 years of forum updates...) list here. There are some yumitori in there who were either sekitori at the time or became one afterwards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aderechelsea 125 Posted January 27, 2013 i knew there was one around ..... cheers for that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ahokaina 44 Posted April 8, 2020 The current Yumitori is Shohoryu(Tokitsukaze-beya), and the prior one is Kasugaryu (Kasugano-beya) and the one before is Satonofuji (Isegahama-beya). The reason for using the Makushita rikishi I guess is the Yumitori is originally done by the Yokozuna or the winner of the last match of the day, and if they use the Makuuchi rikishi, there is a chance the Yumitori Rikishi fight against the Yokozuna or the winner Rikishi on that day and that's not right. Even if you use the Jyuryo Rikishi, he can move up to Makuuchi quickly and the same problem occurs. The same situation as the Dohyo-iri. If the Tachimochi (sword-holder) or the Tsuyuharai (herald) fight against the Yokozuna on that day, other Rikishi substitutes so that opponents don't go on the Dohyo for the Dohyo-iri ceremony. It is easy to substitute the Tachimochi or Tsuyuharai, but the Yumitori requires the special skill and the training and harder to substitute, so they don't want the same situation happens. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ahokaina 44 Posted April 8, 2020 On 27/01/2013 at 06:13, Ack! said: Does anyone know how the rikishi is chosen to do the daily closing ceremony? Is there particular meaning to the motions? I always find it interesting to watch, especially to listen to the crowd cheer as one foot comes down. On a separate topic, does anyone have a list of the former rikishi that participate in the song that follows the closing ceremony on the live feed? I have a partial list, and being new to sumo, it is hard to understand some of the history of who is who. Thanks in advance to anyone who might satisfy my curiosity. https://mag.japaaan.com/archives/70474 (Japanese) I think it is chosen from the same sect (Ichimon) of the Heya the Yokozuna belongs. > I always find it interesting to watch, especially to listen to the crowd cheer as one foot comes down. Yoisho!! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katsunorifuji 65 Posted April 8, 2020 14 hours ago, Ahokaina said: The current Yumitori is Shohoryu(Tokitsukaze-beya), and the prior one is Kasugaryu (Kasugano-beya) and the one before is Satonofuji (Isegahama-beya). The reason for using the Makushita rikishi I guess is the Yumitori is originally done by the Yokozuna or the winner of the last match of the day, and if they use the Makuuchi rikishi, there is a chance the Yumitori Rikishi fight against the Yokozuna or the winner Rikishi on that day and that's not right. Even if you use the Jyuryo Rikishi, he can move up to Makuuchi quickly and the same problem occurs. The same situation as the Dohyo-iri. If the Tachimochi (sword-holder) or the Tsuyuharai (herald) fight against the Yokozuna on that day, other Rikishi substitutes so that opponents don't go on the Dohyo for the Dohyo-iri ceremony. It is easy to substitute the Tachimochi or Tsuyuharai, but the Yumitori requires the special skill and the training and harder to substitute, so they don't want the same situation happens. Thank you, this was great information. Doing a little extra reading I was surprised to see that Kasugaryu has been hanging around sandanmae for quite a few years and has been in sumo since 2001! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RabidJohn 1,858 Posted April 8, 2020 Am I right in believing a rikishi has to be regarded as a bit of a no-hoper to get the yumitorishiki job? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kishinoyama 596 Posted April 9, 2020 4 hours ago, RabidJohn said: Am I right in believing a rikishi has to be regarded as a bit of a no-hoper to get the yumitorishiki job? That is correct. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites