Araibira discontinuing youtube sumo broadcasts (or is he?)

[yorikiried by fate 2,038]

What's with this f+cking space between the text and the table?

[Asojima 2,874]

What's with this f+cking space between the text and the table?

Remove the end-of line strokes within the table.

[yorikiried by fate 2,038]

What's with this f+cking space between the text and the table?

Remove the end-of line strokes within the table.

That'll do. Thanks.

(And it will be an oh so great fun to edit the thing now. :'-( )

[Asojima 2,874]

(And it will be an oh so great fun to edit the thing now. :'-( )

For the future, one way to make it a bit more edittable is to insert several tabs between the /tr's and the tr's BEFORE you paste it into the SF editor. Can't do it after the paste.

[Asashosakari 20,290]

Natsu 2011 was the TET, not Haru.

My suggestion for the table space issues would be keeping a local copy on which to do the editing. Yes, that means removing the linebreaks anew every time, but it's still faster than dealing with a big blob of table code (for me anyway).

[yorikiried by fate 2,038]

Natsu 2011 was the TET, not Haru.

My suggestion for the table space issues would be keeping a local copy on which to do the editing. Yes, that means removing the linebreaks anew every time, but it's still faster than dealing with a big blob of table code (for me anyway).

Oops. Faulty deduction on my part (no vids=TET instead of no vids=no basho).

[Asojima 2,874]

FWIW, I have CD's containing most of the matches streamed from Nagoya 07 thru Hatsu 10. These are uneditted, fuzzy vision .asf files with no graphics to ID the matches, only yobi/gyoji calls. If anyone wants to work with them to make them publicly available, I would be happy to pack them up and snail mail them. PM me if interested in them.

[yorikiried by fate 2,038]

FWIW, I have CD's containing most of the matches streamed from Nagoya 07 thru Hatsu 10. These are uneditted, fuzzy vision .asf files with no graphics to ID the matches, only yobi/gyoji calls. If anyone wants to work with them to make them publicly available, I would be happy to pack them up and snail mail them. PM me if interested in them.

Well, I am busy enough with the higher quality vids for now. I quickly checked my own peephole recordings from the Stone Age, and they are a real pain to watch, so maybe let's push this discussion a little to the future. Tagging the recordings is not such a problem, even without bout IDing, since it's anyway a routine to simply skip four minutes to the next bout, rinse, repeat.

I have now tagged Hatsu 2009 completely and updated my table further up. While uploading already the next couple of basho, I ran into my first youtube copyright scares (I'm a new active user to yt, so this really gave me the chill for a second). One Nagoya 09 day is claimed to contain third party audio content, which is quite absurd. I read that there are rogue companies making money with such claims by forcing their ads on other people's video sites. Since this is the only consequence in this case, I simply confirmed their claim and hope to live peacfully with this. Worse is that Day 2 of Kyushu 2009 was clocked as an NHK copyright infringement. I have the day in three parts and two of them were flagged as "blocked worldwide" giving me an account penalty until I removed them. Now that is a problem. I don't know how youtube's automated database matching works (if I knew, I'd be rich), but either there are parts of the vids that are matched, or the exact same videos were already up at one point and are now known as a whole to be copyright material. I might skip this day for now and try to chop up the culprit videos later to see what that helps. Does anyone know a good tool for chopping up ASFs without having to reencode them? [Edit: Found it myself - asfbinwin] Does anyone know more about YT's databank matching?

I will soonish post individual tables for the three basho that I made available. I do this to point out missing bouts or bouts that are just available as replays or recaps. Maybe people can check if they have these bouts at all or in a better version and fill out the blanks. What I also will put in the tables is a "Volunteer" column. You see, all those NHK vids feature a shitload plethora of vintage and review bouts from the past. I was scanning the vids only for the basho bouts, because they are rather simple to find. Now, if enough people jump in, we can really use the material to ID a lot of old bouts. Just post which vids you are prepared to scan so that there will be no double work. I provide the youtube code for every vid in the tables. If you need a turorial of how to include vids/tags to SumoReference, just shout!

Thoughts, Ideas?

Edited May 29, 2012 by yorikiried by fate

[yorikiried by fate 2,038]

Kyushu 2008
Day	Issues	YT code	Vintage Volunteer	Checked?
01	[/td]	WYoOlNoHd88	[/td3]
02	Yoshikaze - Masatsukasa Tamanoshima - Kasuganishiki Bushuyama - Kokkai Koryu - Aran Takekaze - Tochiozan Tokitenku - Kakizoe	5N053_CH_1M aHDEbpJPxJE
03		FKD2_6yDz88v
04		Sgai6IPwwW0
05	Yoshikaze - Kitataiki Kotomitsuki - Toyonoshima	T7-9sXdZ8ns AoZqN51DyBQ
06		R4Oa0Utqrng
07		TvIV5oshnM8
08		R-5ooPrMNSY
09	Chiyohakuho - Homasho Kimurayama - Kitataiki Takamisakari - Aran	AAxateFUpnQ
10		-eUCPQPqJb4

11-6gxNPgP8nU12o5If4Wt-DGE

13Tic78kUQaP4148KHlRfOT2Bk

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Missing bouts - Only as Replay - Only as Recap

Edited May 30, 2012 by yorikiried by fate

[yorikiried by fate 2,038]

Hatsu 2009
Day	Issues	YT code	Vintage Volunteer	Checked?
01	Tamanoshima - Masatsukasa Tochiozan - Tamawashi Iwakiyama - Tochinonada Tokitenku - Chiyohakuho Tosanoumi - Kakuryu Asasekiryu - Dejima Hokutoriki - Aran Bushuyama - Takamisakari Kotomitsuki - Aminishiki Kisenosato - Asashoryu Hakuho - Toyonoshima	hCqcpV3aSfk 3enq1ILARo8	[/td3]
02	Tamanoshima - Homasho	q-Xyf1XqV2E LzJex2DMwPA ziKFFCVCytQ
03	[/td]	B1_Qh9TQtDg
04		ZLufAp2x-rg
05		uok92lOp_aE
06		PhnSTU83hoM
07		dySQyKyRTFg
08		3NHtzKkDYmM
09		k27pfCxm8ao
10		DcUcNdNRaEs
11		MZfmPIUg_8U YnjeNo5qBf0
12		KwqT_auTJpk
13		no7Er4aUxyc
14		hwOxKL9w3B8
15

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[td3]

Missing bouts - Only as Replay - Only as Recap

[Doitsuyama 1,263]

(And it will be an oh so great fun to edit the thing now. :'-( )

For the future, one way to make it a bit more edittable is to insert several tabs between the /tr's and the tr's BEFORE you paste it into the SF editor. Can't do it after the paste.

Isn't it possible to copy and paste the tabs from somewhere else even after the paste?

[yorikiried by fate 2,038]

Haru 2009
Day	Issues	YT code	Vintage Volunteer	Checked?
01	[/td]	a2Xg4jou4Ag	[/td3]
02	Tosanoumi - Toyozakura Tamawashi - Kimurayama Shimotori - Yamamotoyama Kakizoe - Chiyohakuho Shotenro - Aran Iwakiyama - Asasekiryu Tochinoshin - Futeno	9haXm0HS9cY
03		CFGM6CB5PRc
04		EIqfct14Zdo
05		CfHf6bl-_2E
06		qxXCJeN_ICU Gms7sDKIa7g
07		C2y8FhTU0pE
08		CUUHW9LosJg
09	Takamisakari - Tokitenku	PYQRfffdLeU VeQrqqww8Xs
10		SK3Jrna8jl0
11	Miyabiyama - Takamisakari Hokutoriki - Kyokutenho	LRRaAJojg5w dUPRViLqZ70 8TBztY47Ddw
12		VnYuB-UYF14
13		FdUh-xQIBZo
14	Toyohibiki - Kimurayama Asasekiryu - Aran Iwakiyama - Toyozakura Tamawashi - Futeno	lzDFi6LAGig
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Edited May 29, 2012 by yorikiried by fate

[Asashosakari 20,290]

I have no idea why the format of this table should be bad.

Tamawashi - Futeno[[/color]/td]

[yorikiried by fate 2,038]

Thanks. I don't see the color tags, just the color. Probably some setting somewhere.

[Asashosakari 20,290]

Yeah, formatting tags only show in text-only mode, in WYSIWYG they're interpreted immediately.

[yorikiried by fate 2,038]

The Kyushu 2009 upload starts to be really annoying. Two days to go and about half of the vids have been flagged as blocked. i will start to experiment with split up files to establish if it is a dumb or a smart system. I pretty much hope that the recognition pattern is soley based on filesize, length and stuff, but if they compare -say - a set of random keyframes or audio patterns or hidden metadata, things might turn out ugly.

[yorikiried by fate 2,038]

So far so bad. Half a day of uploads wasted thanks to this pointless blocking nonsense. This triggered my scientific instinct as noted in the post above. So I started to split atoms.

First hypothesis: It's just coredata of the big (known) files. Wrong. Splitting in two files resulted in one part being OK and the other not.

Second hypothesis: It's just the audiotrack that gets scanned. Wrong. Part B without sound gets still blocked.

Third hypothesis: It's just a single keyframe (at the end). Wrong. Parts B1 and B2 get both blocked. Bugger.

So I started to measure the depth of this: Part B11 OK, Part B12 bad, Part B13 bad. Buggerbugger.

Part B121 bad, Part B122 OK, Part B123 OK, Part B124 OK, Part B125 bad. Fuck.

So I split up part B121 (a sequence of one minute) into four 15s. parts, and behold! All of them got through, but youtube really, really thought long about the fourth sequence.

Conclusion: The bastards match multiple keyframe sequences that are (probably randomly) distributed througout the vid. Note, though, that all bad parts are in the second half of the original vid, so I will try to find out more about this observation. Also, the cpyright notices distinguish between visual and audiovisual. So this could mean that the audiostream is a factor after all.

Conclusion2: I will continue to upload the next basho and hope that no idiot drew attention on these vids before. To meddle with the blocked vids seems at the moment a task for very boring days

Edit: I see I was bein naive here after actually bothering to read about this system. For all purposes the blocked vids are lost until furher notice.

Edited May 29, 2012 by yorikiried by fate

[yorikiried by fate 2,038]

And the blocking madness continues. Hatsu 2010 is at least as bad. BTW: most of the existing video links of the (until now) two basho in question lead to either removed or private vids. Somebody drew attention, it seems.

[Doitsuyama 1,263]

And the blocking madness continues. Hatsu 2010 is at least as bad. BTW: most of the existing video links of the (until now) two basho in question lead to either removed or private vids. Somebody drew attention, it seems.

Of course there are a few banned accounts, toyasuko comes to mind.

[yorikiried by fate 2,038]

OK, I see that the volunteers are queuing, but the table was ready anyway so what.

Natsu 2009DayIssuesYT codeVintage VolunteerChecked?01Baruto - Tamanoshima0McvyF_l7FU

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[/td3]02Kotoshogiku - Asasekiryu

Chiyohakuho - Yoshikaze

Kisenosato - Tochinonada

Aran - Toyonoshima

Baruto - Kyokutenho

TblMvr_OcSE03[/td]kkYO_G118Sk04PJzD4hgu3k0057Rx8IlPoJ8806Kimurayama - Bushuyama

Kokkai - Tochinoshin

takamisakari - Shotenro

Hokutoriki - Toyohibiki

Futeno - Kakizoe

Tokitenku - Miyabiyama

AEn_epWRjVQ07Hokutoriki - DejimaaU5JdF4p8tE08nYKsVwaRz1k09Tochinoshin - Toyonoshima

Kisenosato - Asasekiryu

S8_e2YWmiU410tl6I6ML5aBw110J6xcMOFgZ812NeawkTwfjz813On-hZZN2ixw14dN47kl6oTpI15

Missing bouts - Only as Replay - Only as Recap

I also updated the overview on the previous page. What it doesn't show is that I started uploading for Haru 2010, but it's the same blocking BS. This - together with my second spring cold this year - drains my enthusiasm a little, as it is clear now that the blocked vids need to be chopped up bout by bout. That makes each such day more time consuming by factor five at least. I think I will take a break and continue with this after the Euro (while tagging Nagoya 2009 once in a while in between).

[Asashosakari 20,290]

Lower-division day 1 upload in progress, part 1 is there already, the other three will appear within the next three hours or so.

[Fay 1,677]

Wanted to upload Makushita yesterday, but it didn't work. Some changes?

[Pandaazuma 1,310]

I had no idea this had happened. Shocking. Can we write to YouTube and find out who is asking for the blocking? I want to know so I can write to them directly. I am assuming it is the NSK itself, right?

[Fay 1,677]

I think I just have a technical problem ...

[Doitsuyama 1,263]

I had no idea this had happened. Shocking. Can we write to YouTube and find out who is asking for the blocking? I want to know so I can write to them directly. I am assuming it is the NSK itself, right?

Please write me a PM about your problem.