Some more pictures

[Manekineko 200]

Glad you like them! Here's another sumo gallery... in Japanese, but if you follow the pink links, you can't stray too far. The first and last one will take you back to the home page, and second-from-bottom ones are for contacting Kumataro, but all else leads to (Kewl pics! )

Kumataro's sekitori photos

[Tony 16]

Tamanishiki

Taiho

Taiho

Hokutoumi-Chiyonofuji, july 1989

Takahanada

Edited April 25, 2003 by Tony

[Yoavoshimaru 0]

Hokutoumi-Chiyonofuji, july 1989

What a great picture... Look at the muscles on Chiyonofuji!!!! (Punk rocker...) :-D

[Tony 16]

Chiyonofuji yokozuna dohy

[Yubiquitoyama 3]

Hanadas (Blowing up furiously...)

[Yoavoshimaru 0]

Oh looking at that couch makes me dizzy :-) :-)

A cool picture nonetheless: two great sumotori to come... (Sign of approval)

[Manekineko 200]

Oh looking at that couch makes me dizzy :-S :-)

Don't you just love seventies! :-)

[Yoavoshimaru 0]

I found this image online:

Does anyone know the name of the delivery company?

[Tony 16]

Chiyonofuji-Terao

Takanohana II yokozuna dohy

[Tony 16]

Help me please! Do you know these tsuyu-harai?

[Tony 16]

Chiyonofuji january 1981

[Yoavoshimaru 0]

I can't believe no one knows who the tsuyu-harai and tachimochi above! I don't but I exptected most other posters to know :-/

Edited May 6, 2003 by Yoavoshimaru

[Tony 16]

On the first tachi-mochi is Hoshi ( future Hokutoumi ).

On the second, I think that tachi-mochi is Kushimaumi.

[Tony 16]

I think it's the same tsuyu-harai : Koboyama.

[Yoavoshimaru 0]

Thank you Tony (Nodding yes...) Kushimaumi had one of my favorite kesho-mawashi:

[Fujisan 354]

Actually I think its Fujinoshin and Hokutoumi,I have a similar picture in my C4 book of Sumo.

The one on the right of the first picture is definately Fujinoshin,I cant send a picture to prove it so youll have to check yourself but Im pretty sure-The second picture isnt so clear though.

Edited May 16, 2003 by Fujisan

[Tony 16]

Thanks a lot Fujisan!

[Amanogawa 59]

Actually I think its Fujinoshin and Hokutoumi,

But still....I'm sorry if I sound way obstinate, but I think this is

Tsuyuharai -Koboyama, and Tachimochi-Hoshi ( first pic )...

  Does anyone know the name of the delivery company?

The company's name is Sagawa Kyuubin.

[Yoavoshimaru 0]

Thank you Amanogawa-zeki (Clapping wildly...)

[Fujisan 354]

Thats okay Tony,even if there is some dispute.

Wasnt Koboyama in a different stable to Chiyonofuji or doesnt that matter?

[Kotoseiya Yuichi 3]

Wasnt Koboyama in a different stable to Chiyonofuji or doesnt that matter?

If there are not enough qualified men to hold the positions of tachimochi and tsuyuharai in the yokozuna's own heya, new ones will be called from the heya's ichimon; one of the five groups of heyas.

This ichimon onnection is seen also elsewhere. For example when Chiyotaikai won in March and Chiyotenzan couldn't be used to hold the flag in the victory parade as he was a toriteki in makushita and there were no other Kokonoe sekitori, Kaiho came to assist. Kaiho belongs to Hakkaku-beya which belongs to the same ichimon as Kokonoe, viz. Takasago.

For the grouping, see Nekonishiki's heya index page. ;-)

[Yoavoshimaru 0]

If there are not enough qualified men to hold the positions of tachimochi and tsuyuharai

;-)

What are the required qualifications?

[Yubiquitoyama 3]

If there are not enough qualified men to hold the positions of tachimochi and tsuyuharai

;-)

What are the required qualifications?

Kotoseiya seems to indicate it suffices for them to be sekitori, but I'm pretty sure they actually need to be Makunouchi rikishi. Don't quote me on it yet though until I have confirmed what is correct.

They also aren't supposed to be Ozeki or Yokozuna although they might be on special occasions (although not during hon-basho as far as I understand).

Edited May 20, 2003 by Yubiquitoyama

[Kotoseiya Yuichi 3]

Kotoseiya seems to indicate it suffices for them to be sekitori, but I'm pretty sure they actually need to be Makunouchi rikishi. Don't quote me on it yet though until I have confirmed what is correct.

(...)

They also aren't supposed to be Ozeki or Yokozuna although they might be on special occasions (although not during hon-basho as far as I understand).

Now that I think this issue more closely I must admit I've never seen a juryo as a tsuyuharai, let alone tachimochi (tsuyuharai is always supposed to be lower ranked of those two). In a very unlikely situation where a yokozuna is the only makuuchi rikishi of an ichimon, there would be no alternatives for both of them but be juryos but this is admittedly just frivolous speculation. I can't think of a situation where there hasn't always been at least one man in makuuchi from every five ichimons. Now that'd be one of the ultimate statistical anomalies! ;-)

Speaking of a three yokozuna dohyo-iri... Where did I put that magazine? Where is the scanner's driver CD? Something to be seen on this thread later tonight... :-D

UPDATE: I think it would have been likely that Chiyotenzan in the above example would've been the flag carrier, had he been a juryo at the time. As for the requirements of the tachimochi and tsuyuharai I don't think I wrote anything about sekitori/toriteki separation in my earlier message. I might have given that kind of (false) impression, yes. Sorry about that. :-D

Edited May 20, 2003 by Kotoseiya Yuichi

[Manekineko 200]

Here's a little Mongolian Special!

And what better way to start it than by showing how friendy once they were, at least for the photo-ops. From left to right: good-natured Tenho, joker Shuzan, and Genghis Shoryu.

Must be my favourite pic! (Heart)

Here's another of Asashoryu in his maegashira days:

And another one, while keikoing with still active Akebono:

And to complete the Mongolian Special, Asasekiryu:

When you come to Japan, you should learn to play the national sport (Laughing...)

Shuzan dozing of, surrounded by drying mawashi... (jungyo picture)

All images sent to me by Hahanoyama-zeki! :-( :-)