Athenayama 1,195 Posted July 10 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Asapedroryu said: Most supporters of the other clubs (including me), would love some of that dirty money to come to their clubs and become a top world club too. They buy players from you (last examples Goncalo Ramos, Joao Neves) at very good rates, so the money comes. You also benefit. Don't be ungrateful, the other clubs always take advantage that PSG is buying to sell at higher rates.... Another big topic I really don't want to get in..... Edited July 10 by Athenayama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asapedroryu 243 Posted July 10 1 hour ago, Athenayama said: They buy players from you (last examples Goncalo Ramos, Joao Neves) at very good rates, so the money comes. You also benefit. Don't be ungrateful, the other clubs always take advantage that PSG is buying to sell at higher rates.... Another big topic I really don't want to get in..... Exactly. These clubs come buy the best players and then the team gets weaker. If they had endless amounts of money those players would still be at the club. As a supporter I don't even get 1€ of the sale, so don't really care if the player is sold for 10M or 60M. Also, half of the money gets lost along the way because Mr Mendes & Friends need to get paid. Talking about dirty money, John Textor made an offer to buy Benfica and was told to f... off so he decided to go buy Lyon instead. That was a close one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ganzohnesushi 547 Posted July 11 4 hours ago, Asapedroryu said: Apart from the supporters of those clubs, everybody else hates clubs like PSG or Man City. Former average clubs being financed by dirty money that are now top world clubs. Most supporters of the other clubs (including me), would love some of that dirty money to come to their clubs and become a top world club too. Fully agree to the first statement. Fully disagree to the second statement. Believe it or not, Bayern München became a top world club without any dirty money. Whatever they spent (e.g. 100,000,000 € for Harry Kane) they have earned before all by themselves. When Uli Hoeness took over the position as a manager in 1979 the club had some debts. It took him 4 years to discharge all debts and the numbers were always black since then. I'm really glad we have that 50+1 rule here in Germany. The rule is intended to prevent investors from taking sole decision-making power over the clubs. Ganzohnesushi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Athenayama 1,195 Posted July 11 You both have good points, as I said this is another big topic but I really prefer to focus on the basho from now on ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Athenayama 1,195 Posted July 12 Standings after the Semifinals : Some didn't change their team which cost them big. Lordshamrockyama keeps the lead and has a new runner up in Tibozuka. It's in Lordshamrockyama's hands to win or lose this... PLAYER R 1 R 2 R 3 Round of 16 Quarter final Semi final Final TOTAL 1 Lordshamrockyama 51 57 80 96 85 52 421 2 Tibozuka 58 63 65 86 70 64 406 3 Athenayama 79 67 73 83 59 40 401 4 Asapedroryu 37 80 69 90 62 48 386 5 Yamashade 60 57 61 97 41 40 356 6 Djodjoyoshi 39 59 35 65 79 60 337 7 Kimyama 41 48 58 53 55 47 302 8 Spytoneryu 68 51 39 53 49 26 286 9 Jejima 39 98 49 39 20 6 251 Attack : No changes on top here as only Djodjoyoshi scored a goal ! Spoiler PLAYER R 1 R 2 R 3 Round of 16 Quarter final Semi final Final TOTAL Diff. 1 Athenayama 0 4 4 4 3 0 15 +15 2 Jejima 0 7 2 3 2 0 14 +7 3 Lordshamrockyama 0 3 3 5 2 0 13 +12 4 Yamashade 3 3 1 4 2 0 13 +10 5 Asapedroryu 1 4 2 4 1 0 12 +9 5 Tibozuka 1 4 1 4 2 0 12 +9 7 Djodjoyoshi 2 1 1 3 3 1 11 +9 8 Kimyama 1 1 1 2 4 0 9 +8 9 Spytoneryu 2 1 1 2 2 0 8 -2 Defense (to make it simple I took only the goals conceded by the goalkeeper) : Clean sheets everywhere except Spytoneryu who had more trust in Real Madrid. Jejima is out of the standings as he has no more goalkeeper or even defenders in play. Spoiler PLAYER R 1 R 2 R 3 Round of 16 Quarter final Semi final Final TOTAL Diff. 1 Athenayama 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 +15 2 Lordshamrockyama 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 +12 3 Kimyama 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 +8 4 Djodjoyoshi 1 1 0 0 0 0 2 +9 5 Yamashade 0 1 0 0 2 0 3 +10 6 Asapedroryu 0 3 0 0 0 0 3 +9 6 Tibozuka 0 3 0 0 0 0 3 +9 8 Spytoneryu 0 1 0 3 2 4 10 -2 Jejima 0 3 0 1 3 --- 7 +7 Assists : Djodjoyoshi joins Tibozuka on top ! Asapedroryu and Lordshamrockyama are just one assist behind. Spoiler PLAYER R 1 R 2 R 3 Round of 16 Quarter final Semi final Final TOTAL 1 Tibozuka 2 3 0 3 3 1 12 1 Djodjoyoshi 2 2 0 3 3 2 12 3 Asapedroryu 0 6 1 0 2 2 11 3 Lordshamrockyama 2 2 2 1 2 2 11 5 Spytoneryu 3 2 0 0 2 1 8 6 Kimyama 1 2 0 2 1 1 7 6 Athenayama 1 1 0 2 2 1 7 8 Yamashade 0 2 1 2 1 0 6 9 Jejima 0 2 0 1 0 0 3 Captain : (who makes better use of their Captain) Lordshamrockyama cannot be caught up anymore unless one player makes an extraterrestrial performance. Spoiler PLAYER R 1 R 2 R 3 Round of 16 Quarter final Semi final Final TOTAL 1 Lordshamrockyama 14 24 28 28 22 20 136 2 Tibozuka 0 18 28 16 16 20 98 3 Athenayama 4 22 28 28 6 8 96 4 Asapedroryu 0 22 14 30 20 6 92 5 Spytoneryu 18 20 18 16 14 4 90 6 Djodjoyoshi 0 24 14 12 18 20 88 7 Jejima 16 24 14 16 0 0 70 7 Yamashade 4 24 4 30 4 4 70 7 Kimyama 6 10 28 4 16 6 70 Next deadline is tomorrow July 13th at 06:00 PM UTC. Prepare your teams ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Athenayama 1,195 Posted July 13 Football karma..... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ganzohnesushi 547 Posted July 13 Wtf is here going on during halftime? 30 minutes break just to show typical American show elements? So boring. US Americans will never find the way to the heart of football. We want to see football, not that kind of bullshit. Or is the game over and PSG has already given up? Ganzohnesushi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ganzohnesushi 547 Posted July 13 On 10/07/2025 at 00:27, Athenayama said: Chelsea ? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA And again Dollarumma showed his bad character after the match. What a jerk. Ganzohnesushi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Athenayama 1,195 Posted July 13 1 hour ago, Athenayama said: Football karma..... I already commented that post of mine you mention @Ganzohnesushi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ganzohnesushi 547 Posted July 15 @Athenayama I know, this heavy and unexpected 0-3 defeat must still hurt, but do you think you can come up with some final report soon on James Bond's performance? Btw, thanks a lot for facilitating this thread. Ganzohnesushi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flohru 178 Posted July 16 On 11/07/2025 at 02:34, Ganzohnesushi said: Fully disagree to the second statement. Believe it or not, Bayern München became a top world club without any dirty money. Whatever they spent (e.g. 100,000,000 € for Harry Kane) they have earned before all by themselves. When Uli Hoeness took over the position as a manager in 1979 the club had some debts. It took him 4 years to discharge all debts and the numbers were always black since then. I'm really glad we have that 50+1 rule here in Germany. The rule is intended to prevent investors from taking sole decision-making power over the clubs. Ganzohnesushi I fully agree regarding your take on 50+1, but you may want to read this book: https://www.chbeck.de/woller-gerd-mueller/product/27786451 It is a biography of Gerd Müller by an avid Bayern fan in the first place, but the book also traces how Bayern rose to the top of the Bundesliga and Europe in the late 60s and 70s, even though they were close to bankrupt all the time. Hint: Loads of dirty money involved! ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Athenayama 1,195 Posted July 16 5 hours ago, Ganzohnesushi said: @Athenayama I know, this heavy and unexpected 0-3 defeat must still hurt, but do you think you can come up with some final report soon on James Bond's performance? Btw, thanks a lot for facilitating this thread. Ganzohnesushi Sorry my friend many things to do regarding the basho and running several games. I'll post the final report today. Thanks for your understanding. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Athenayama 1,195 Posted July 16 Final Standings ! As I wrote in my previous report, it was Lordshamrockyama's to lose this. Well..... he did it ! Worst score of the day he opened the door. Tobizuka accepted the invitation and with just the third best of the day jumped in. So here is the winner of the first fantasy game based on the FIFA World Club Cup. TIBOZUKA ! Congrats ! Lordshamrockyama ended second while Asapedroryu completes the podium stealing the 3rd place for one point. PLAYER R 1 R 2 R 3 Round of 16 Quarter final Semi final Final TOTAL 1 Tibozuka 58 63 65 86 70 64 41 447 2 Lordshamrockyama 51 57 80 96 85 52 15 436 3 Asapedroryu 37 80 69 90 62 48 38 424 4 Athenayama 79 67 73 83 59 40 22 423 5 Yamashade 60 57 61 97 41 40 59 415 6 Djodjoyoshi 39 59 35 65 79 60 42 379 8 Spytoneryu 68 51 39 53 49 26 56 342 7 Kimyama 41 48 58 53 55 47 24 326 9 Jejima 39 98 49 39 20 6 0 251 Attack : Big upset here as the scorers were on Chelsea's side. The leader Athenayama had none of them. Yamashade on the other hand had them all. The result was a big jump from 4th place to first. Congrats ! Spoiler PLAYER R 1 R 2 R 3 Round of 16 Quarter final Semi final Final TOTAL Diff. 1 Yamashade 3 3 1 4 2 0 3 16 +13 2 Athenayama 0 4 4 4 3 0 0 15 +12 3 Lordshamrockyama 0 3 3 5 2 0 1 14 +10 4 Djodjoyoshi 2 1 1 3 3 1 3 14 +9 5 Asapedroryu 1 4 2 4 1 0 2 14 +8 5 Tibozuka 1 4 1 4 2 0 2 14 +8 7 Jejima 0 7 2 3 2 0 0 14 +7 8 Kimyama 1 1 1 2 4 0 1 10 +6 9 Spytoneryu 2 1 1 2 2 0 2 10 0 Defense (to make it simple I took only the goals conceded by the goalkeeper) : Here also we had a big upset performed by the same Yamashade ! He was the only one with Spytenoryu to pick Chelsea's goalkeeper. As a consequence he joined Athenayama as best defense and won the prize thanks to a better goal difference. Congrats! Spoiler PLAYER R 1 R 2 R 3 Round of 16 Quarter final Semi final Final TOTAL Diff. 1 Yamashade 0 1 0 0 2 0 0 3 +13 2 Athenayama 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 3 +12 3 Lordshamrockyama 0 1 0 0 0 0 3 4 +10 4 Kimyama 0 1 0 0 0 0 3 4 +6 5 Djodjoyoshi 1 1 0 0 0 0 3 5 +9 6 Asapedroryu 0 3 0 0 0 0 3 6 +8 6 Tibozuka 0 3 0 0 0 0 3 6 +8 8 Spytoneryu 0 1 0 3 2 4 0 10 0 Jejima 0 3 0 1 3 --- --- 7 +7 Assists : The coleaders performed the same number of assists (2) and no one did better therefore Djodjoyoshi and Tibozuka will share the Assist prize! Asapedroryu completes the podium. Spoiler PLAYER R 1 R 2 R 3 Round of 16 Quarter final Semi final Final TOTAL 1 Tibozuka 2 3 0 3 3 1 2 14 1 Djodjoyoshi 2 2 0 3 3 2 2 14 3 Asapedroryu 0 6 1 0 2 2 2 13 4 Lordshamrockyama 2 2 2 1 2 2 0 11 5 Spytoneryu 3 2 0 0 2 1 2 10 6 Athenayama 1 1 0 2 2 1 1 8 6 Yamashade 0 2 1 2 1 0 2 8 8 Kimyama 1 2 0 2 1 1 0 7 9 Jejima 0 2 0 1 0 0 0 3 Captain : (who makes better use of their Captain) Except for Yamashade captain's picks were very poor for this final. Hence no changes on top of these standings. Lordshamrockyama made the best use of his captains! Spoiler PLAYER R 1 R 2 R 3 Round of 16 Quarter final Semi final Final TOTAL 1 Lordshamrockyama 14 24 28 28 22 20 0 136 2 Tibozuka 0 18 28 16 16 20 2 100 3 Athenayama 4 22 28 28 6 8 2 98 4 Spytoneryu 18 20 18 16 14 4 6 96 5 Asapedroryu 0 22 14 30 20 6 2 94 6 Djodjoyoshi 0 24 14 12 18 20 2 90 7 Yamashade 4 24 4 30 4 4 14 84 8 Jejima 16 24 14 16 0 0 0 70 8 Kimyama 6 10 28 4 16 6 0 70 Thanks to all the players who participated ! Maybe this competition will become more popular in 2029 and we'll have more players then... provided we're alive ! Till then, take care all. 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ganzohnesushi 547 Posted July 16 10 hours ago, Flohru said: I fully agree regarding your take on 50+1, but you may want to read this book: https://www.chbeck.de/woller-gerd-mueller/product/27786451 It is a biography of Gerd Müller by an avid Bayern fan in the first place, but the book also traces how Bayern rose to the top of the Bundesliga and Europe in the late 60s and 70s, even though they were close to bankrupt all the time. Hint: Loads of dirty money involved! ;) Hope you are aware that Woller wrote this biography a couple of years after Gerd Müller came down with Alzheimer's disease. I haven't read the book and I won't do so as most of Woller's accusations sound like cheap showmanship to me to increase the sales figures. Magnificent the story about Willi Aschenbrenner during a recitation in Augsburg. What a humiliation for Woller. Which btw has nothing to do with Gerd Müller's fascinating career. It is fact that Bayern München never had real problems with financial authorities and never were accused of FFP like so many other clubs. Would be interesting to know the view of Woller and your own, what kind of "Loads of dirty money" Bayern used compared to the clubs now ruled by some petro dollar billionaires. Woller's remarks about slush funds are so across-the-board that I can't take that seriously. Even the contract with Qatar Airways fortunately was cancelled after some serious intervention by Bayern fans. The rise of Bayern in the 60's and 70's was the combination of some fortunate circumstances. Extremely young talented players (Maier, Beckenbauer, Müller, Schwarzenbeck, Roth, in 1970 complemented by Breitner and Hoeness ) and the construction of the Olympic Stadium for the 72 Olympic Games in Munich were significant for their rise. In addition brilliant coaches (Tschik Čajkovski, Brank Zebec and Udo Lattek). Of course the team was expensive and Bayern had accumulated massive debts over the years. It was young manager Hoeness after '79 taking care for this, mainly by multiplying the merchandising and on top selling their new star Karl-Heinz Rummenigge for 10,000,000 Deutsche Mark (an absolute record for that time) to Internazionale Milan. Ganzohnesushi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flohru 178 Posted July 16 18 minutes ago, Ganzohnesushi said: Hope you are aware that Woller wrote this biography a couple of years after Gerd Müller came down with Alzheimer's disease. I haven't read the book and I won't do so as most of Woller's accusations sound like cheap showmanship to me to increase the sales figures. Magnificent the story about Willi Aschenbrenner during a recitation in Augsburg. What a humiliation for Woller. Which btw has nothing to do with Gerd Müller's fascinating career. It is fact that Bayern München never had real problems with financial authorities and never were accused of FFP like so many other clubs. Would be interesting to know the view of Woller and your own, what kind of "Loads of dirty money" Bayern used compared to the clubs now ruled by some petro dollar billionaires. Woller's remarks about slush funds are so across-the-board that I can't take that seriously. Even the contract with Qatar Airways fortunately was cancelled after some serious intervention by Bayern fans. The rise of Bayern in the 60's and 70's was the combination of some fortunate circumstances. Extremely young talented players (Maier, Beckenbauer, Müller, Schwarzenbeck, Roth, in 1970 complemented by Breitner and Hoeness ) and the construction of the Olympic Stadium for the 72 Olympic Games in Munich were significant for their rise. In addition brilliant coaches (Tschik Čajkovski, Brank Zebec and Udo Lattek). Of course the team was expensive and Bayern had accumulated massive debts over the years. It was young manager Hoeness after '79 taking care for this, mainly by multiplying the merchandising and on top selling their new star Karl-Heinz Rummenigge for 10,000,000 Deutsche Mark (an absolute record for that time) to Internazionale Milan. Ganzohnesushi As I have said: Woller is an avid fan of Bayern and argues just like you (or me) when it comes to the great and undisputed financial performance of Bayern since the Honess era. It is stricly about the period before that in the 60s and 70s and of course his book does not rely on Müller's memory (in fact, he didn't interview him at all), but offers clear archival evidence that Bayern paid its young talented players with black money and systematically evaded taxes (with the approval of the Bavarian authorities). The club has never denied any of it and obviously all of that has long since exceeded the legal time limit, so no reason for excitement. As for Aschenbrenner: It was pretty funny indeed, I was there during that talk and everyone had a laugh about it later, including Aschenbrenner himself. The local paper kind of scandalized it later, but the narrative and evidence of the book clearly is not affected by the fact that Woller did not speak to one friend of Müller because he thought him dead. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 6,392 Posted July 16 Thanks for elaborating a totally off topic. Now I'm interested in reading that book. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ganzohnesushi 547 Posted July 16 1 hour ago, Flohru said: As for Aschenbrenner: It was pretty funny indeed, I was there during that talk and everyone had a laugh about it later, including Aschenbrenner himself. The local paper kind of scandalized it later, but the narrative and evidence of the book clearly is not affected by the fact that Woller did not speak to one friend of Müller because he thought him dead. Must have been a brilliant sequence: "Why weren't you talking to Willi Aschenbrenner?" "Unfortunately Mr. Aschenbrenner is dead." "Well, here I am. I'm Willi Aschenbrenner" I must admit to be a bit envious of you being there to see and watch this live. Ganzohnesushi 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Athenayama 1,195 Posted September 25 1 hour ago, Achiyama said: When was this game This competition took place from June 15th to July 13th 2025. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
