Eikokurai 3,437 Posted July 16, 2019 14 minutes ago, Jakusotsu said: So you're either quite older than it seems or that company was crap. Haha. I’m mid-30s. When you work in a foreign company overseas your colleagues come and go more regularly than back home. A few of us stick around for years but most are there for 1-3 and move on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 6,001 Posted July 16, 2019 Well, I still remember the shock when the first apprentices arrived who weren't even born when I started working for my company. And that was five years ago... I guess Aminishiki must have felt the same. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rainoyama 1,157 Posted July 16, 2019 (edited) I renamed the thread to make it clearer. Veteran Aminishiki announced his retirement from sumo at age 40 after a long and amazing career. "I came around what had to be done. I accepted all so I a result I don't feel any regrets. I thought it would be unreasonable for me to continue while not being able to produce the sumo I had in mind." he declared. https://www.nikkansports.com/battle/sumo/news/201907160000231.html Edited July 16, 2019 by Rainoyama 1 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orandashoho 720 Posted July 16, 2019 I started watching sumo in the Eurosport days. I saw him rise to Makuuchi and get kinboshis defeating Takanohana and Musashimaru. After Eurosport stopped showing the sumo highlights, I was deprived of any sumo news for thirteen years... and when I got back in 2014, I was amazed to see Aminishiki was still there in the top division... and seeing him get kinboshis still... Sadly, he never got a yusho like Kyokutenho did, but his career is impressive. Such men are truly as much legends of sumo as the ones who briefly shine as Yokozuna. There is a kabu waiting for him. The future of sumo needs him... I can't wait to see what new legends his teaching will produce. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nantonoyama 252 Posted July 16, 2019 What an amazing career he had. Congratulations Aminishiki. And hail Ajigawa! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rainoyama 1,157 Posted July 16, 2019 (edited) Aminishiki's interview, feel free to correct my mistakes, my skills as a translator are far from perfect :) On his retirement "I finally found the strength to stop. There are some regretful parts of course but I did what I had to do. I've accepted it all so as a result I don't feel any regret. I went to the hospital to get advice about my knee but I can't do the sumo I have in mind anymore so I thought it'd be unreasonable to continue" On the talks with Igegahama oyakata " "I'm going to retire" I told him. He was worried about my feelings and told me I could still mount the dohyo one last time if I wanted to. But for me it was ok to end it like this and not come back for one last match. I don't have anything to regret" On when he had 'the talk" whith his oyakata "Two days ago in the afternoon maybe ? I was told to take some time to think about it" On why he is still going to the training ground even though he decided to retire. "It's honbasho for everybody. I can't be the only one around slacking off. It's also in order to heal my injured knee. I want to continue to do my best from now on moving my body and training with the young guys" You've been able to overcome injuries so far, was that last injury the "fatal one"? "Basho where you are injured are not that different from each other but it's gradual slope. The spots where you hurt change. I've always embraced it but this time I injured that right knee yet again. Can you do it one more time ? I asked myself. This time I couldn't" Were you troubled/worried before making a decision ? "I guess I made my decision from the start. "One more time, just one more time"I was saying to myself, then I started to think about what's after for the first time. What would I do if I go back there and get injured again ? I started to think about things I never thought about before. Your last opponent turned out to be Ryuko. "I think it's nice, to have fought my last fight against Ryuko. To finish my career against such a young kid. I thought I could execute the throw but I couldn't and the next thing I know is I was looking at the ceiling. It was good sumo wasn't it ? I have no regrets. It's good that I could fight with a young rikishi like him. The great Yokozuna Takanohana passed me the baton before, now I am passing it back to a young guy, I think it's a beautiful thing !" https://www.nikkansports.com/battle/sumo/news/201907160000256.html Edited July 16, 2019 by Rainoyama 9 13 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jalil_the_swan 25 Posted July 16, 2019 And there goes the last of the Mohicans. Good timing as well, 6 years to learn how to run a heya until Isegahama-oyakata retires. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dwale 419 Posted July 16, 2019 I really feel honored to have had the opportunity to watch a legend like him, even if they weren't his prime years. This is one of those mono no aware moments, but I take consolation in knowing he'll be bringing up a crop of wily rikishi to keep things interesting for years to come. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konrad 3 Posted July 16, 2019 It is not directly connected to Aminishiki's intai, but I encountered it while looking for pictures of him of the past years: I had a link for a Sumo reference site like the Oyakata Gallery, but it showed (among other things) pictures from every active year of the rikishis. Do you know which site that is? I cannot find it anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rainoyama 1,157 Posted July 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Konrad said: It is not directly connected to Aminishiki's intai, but I encountered it while looking for pictures of him of the past years: I had a link for a Sumo reference site like the Oyakata Gallery, but it showed (among other things) pictures from every active year of the rikishis. Do you know which site that is? I cannot find it anymore. Is it the website you are looking for ? http://heyaaz.nagioff.com/2019/2019.html 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 6,001 Posted July 16, 2019 56 minutes ago, Rainoyama said: Is it the website you are looking for ? http://heyaaz.nagioff.com/2019/2019.html If there ever was a gang I'd never want to meet in a dark alley, it's the guys from Kise beya. 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gospodin 191 Posted July 16, 2019 Having had the pleasure to watch Aminishiki in his prime years, I remember regularly going crazy watching him beat ozeki by the score, giving the yokozuna a tough bout most of the time an then losing to much less-talented rikishi than him. As much as I will miss him, I will always wonder what might have been if he would have been more consistent when ranked in lower sanyaku. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rainoyama 1,157 Posted July 17, 2019 (edited) Ex Yokozuna Harumafuji, Aminishiki's former stablemate on twitter "Aminishiki zeki Congratulations on a long career and thank you for everything. When I was 16 and entered sumo, Aminishiki zeki had just become a shin-nyumaku. I had the honor to become his tsukebito from 2001 and learned a lot from him. If I could become Yokozuna it's also thanks to Aminishiki zeki. From the bottom of my heart I feel very grateful" Edited July 17, 2019 by Rainoyama 11 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rainoyama 1,157 Posted July 17, 2019 From stablemate Terunofuji "Aminishiki zeki ! Thank you for everything ! Since I joined Isegahama beya, you taught me so much and if I could become Ozeki, it's thanks to you support. Thank you so very much for everything you did until now ! I remain under your care from now on ! Terunofuji" 5 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yorikiried by fate 2,029 Posted July 17, 2019 When Ama won his first yusho, the TV coverage showed how he left the hall and was greeted by Aminishiki and his brother Asofuji (?). There was a warm embrace, methinks, which implies that Aminishiki, against fashion and enlightened tradition, didn't hit Ama a lot when he was his tsukebito. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yorikiried by fate 2,029 Posted July 17, 2019 How his opponents saw him: 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yorikiried by fate 2,029 Posted July 17, 2019 13 hours ago, Jakusotsu said: If there ever was a gang I'd never want to meet in a dark alley, it's the guys from Kise beya. Well, with Akiseyama, I also wouldn't like to meet him at a well lit buffet... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 45,374 Posted July 17, 2019 I heard some talk about the Kyokai not accepting his resignation. Anyone else hear that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rainoyama 1,157 Posted July 17, 2019 Just now, Kintamayama said: I heard some talk about the Kyokai not accepting his resignation. Anyone else hear that? doesn't seem like it to me... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 45,374 Posted July 17, 2019 12 minutes ago, Rainoyama said: doesn't seem like it to me... I mean something technical.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rainoyama 1,157 Posted July 17, 2019 19 minutes ago, Kintamayama said: I mean something technical.. Oh ok I see, I don't think they would have made an official post it it was the case though ? Surely if he messed up some paperwork for some reason it can be fixed in a minute. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 45,374 Posted July 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Rainoyama said: Oh ok I see, I don't think they would have made an official post it it was the case though ? Surely if he messed up some paperwork for some reason it can be fixed in a minute. I agree, I didn't find anything written online about it anywhere, but my sources are adamant.. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rainoyama 1,157 Posted July 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, Kintamayama said: I agree, I didn't find anything written online about it anywhere, but my sources are adamant.. Very strange indeed. According to this NHK article just out it's done, they don't mention any issue either. https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20190717/k10011996101000.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sekihiryu 51 Posted July 17, 2019 (edited) Met Aminishiki in 2005, on the street outside his Osaka Basho lodgings. Unfortunately he was very unfriendly that day ( All I did was politely say hello in Japanese, and he stared right through me, just like he did on the dohyo) Sadly I have never forgotten that day. My other Aminishiki memory was this.... An infamous bout with Kotonowaka when he lost by a mage. Anyone else remember the infamous bout? http://www.sumoforum.net/forums/topic/6146-the-rules-mage/?tab=comments#comment-55831 https://youtu.be/AdMRpyuj3bw Anyway, long career, good luck in retirement ice man. Edited July 17, 2019 by sekihiryu 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eikokurai 3,437 Posted July 17, 2019 4 hours ago, Kintamayama said: I heard some talk about the Kyokai not accepting his resignation. Anyone else hear that? Is that something the Kyokai can even do? If someone wants out, they’re out. It’s not like a corporation or public body where someone falls on their sword after a scandal, but the bosses tell them they’re too important to be let go and throws the resignation in the bin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
