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  1. Nantonoyama

    Games Bugs

    Juryo Game Results for Hatsu 2021 - Top 10 - Points for superbanzuke @Randomitsuki 1 - Terarno - 101 2 - pandaazuma - 101 3 - Chankoyama - 99 4 - Metzinowaka - 98 5 - Kyoju - 96 6 - Frinkanohana - 96 7 - Domichi - 96 8 - Torafujii - 95 9 - Pitinosato - 95 10 - Neko - 94 11 - Chelseayama - 94 Congratulations to @Terarno for his outstanding performance. May he celebrate with a banquet of pruneaux! @Pandaazuma will have a shot at Yokozuna promotion next tournament with this yusho-equivalent performance All win-loss scores are temporary, they will be modified when the points for kyujo weak maegashiras are removed
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    Hokuseiho - Shot at a record?

    Given his banzuke position, Hokuseiho could set another record : a direct jonokuchi to juryo trip in 4 basho on his debut. He would obviously be the first to do so in the modern era. Although not the first to do so at all, since Hokutokuni, a former sekitori who fell all the way down to jonokuchi, did it in 2011, although with two massive banzuke luck occurrences (big boost from all the scandal-related intai + promoted with 5-2 at ms9)
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    Banzuke for Hatsu 2021

    It is consistent with the fact to treat better those who show up, exemplified even in the yokozuna rank when Kisenosato got promoted even though winless. The difference between 0-7 and 0-0-7 is 35/40 ranks in makushita, and something like 50/60 and 60/70 in sandanme and jonidan.. I think it is fair this way, and Fujiazuma gets a chance of direct repromotion if he yushos
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    Kyokai special training sessions

    Happening right now, live feed of the training session streamed on youtube. It seems to me that it is the official NSK account
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    Kakuryu Citizenship

    This is great news, I am so happy for him!!!!! I can imagine the MASSIVE relief he must feel now and it is great that he will be able to take over the kabu and become oyakata. That's so nice! He can now train in peace to step on the dohyo for Hatsu and then retire. Good!
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    Theoretical Sumo Tournaments

    This post is very interesting. I guess a rule-based system could be implemented, as a kind of expert system, since we have a lot of expert knowledge on bout scheduling with our experience as fans. My intuition tells me that probability is too rigid for this kind of assessment, and the use of fuzzy sets or belief functions theories could be useful. Particularly to generate belief-plausibility intervals, way richer than "simple" probabilities. Those are just random toughts, I haven't really studied the ins and the outs of such models...
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    Jomboy Covers Sumo!

    Was it during one of those one-day tournaments in kokugikan? (only plausible explaination I see without thorough video editing)
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    Minimum Kachi-Koshi forever

    The fact that there is no rule craved in stone makes everything possible, and considering that the lower maegashira zensho simply does not count, the two M1/S zenshos could be enough. But I am not sure they would be keen to promote to yokozuna after only 1 basho as ozeki... Also, for the comparison climbing vs falling down the ranks with 4-3 / 3-4, the fact is that, unless there is NO kyujo rikishi, the balance between banzuke-relevant wins and losses/absences favours the losses/absences. Also, absences, banzuke-wise, are worse than on-dohyo losses, which worsens a bit the phenomenon. So there is more good banzuke luck than bad banzuke luck "available". Also, rikishi going intai have to be considered, practically opening a void right in the middle of the banzuke, that is filled bottom-up, and that occurs every single basho.
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    Games Bugs

    November basho - Juryo Game Official results for Masters points @Randomitsuki Win-loss records must only be considered once the points given to Kotoyuki are removed 1 - Chelseayama - 102 - 2 - Kitakachiyama - 101 3 - chishafuwaku - 100 4 - Golynohana - 98 5 - Nantonoyama - 98 6 - Susanoo - 98 7 - Ketsukai - 98 8 - Wolfgangho - 97 9 - Kaiowaka - 97 10 - Metzinowaka - 97
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    Hokuseiho - Shot at a record?

    If you include playoffs then Itai has 30 (Jonidan kettei-sen, Hatsu 79)
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    Chiyonoyama vs. Rikidozan Aki 1947

    I got the same. Glad to see I am not the only one to receive suggestions of wind turbines videos from 10 years ago And as for the sumo video... Possible behaviour of black box algorithm that favour some video for no apparent reason (but if you dig inside metadata you might find some patterns that explain it... now that several people from this forum watched both sumo and wind turbines videos the algorithm is making stupid links between labels...)
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    Promotion/Demotion/Yusho Discussion Aki 2020

    I am not sure at after retirement, that matters that much. Just as Kaio, he is regarded as a yusho winner former ozeki. And his ozeki stint was rather short, but not that short (2 full years, more than Tochinoshin, a bit less than Takayasu). The only thing is that it happened early in his career, which is quite a characteristic feature. Also, people (including myself) that discovered sumo in the mid-2000's only remember him as a maegashira.
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    September (Aki) Basho- offical thread (yay..)

    I think in most countries this is the case. The ministry handles the case and authorises or not the request of the citizen. When this citizen is famous it often escalates to the head of state. In general, citizenship is not a disposable good, and only the country can cut the link, regardless of the will of the citizen. And with regards to international conventions on statelessness, most countries agree to let people go only when already have another citizenship (and when countries do not want dual citizens, they make people "promise" that they will relinquish their other citizenship, such as japan, please correct me if I am mistaken). I am pretty sure that Hakuho and Kakuryu can secretly keep their mongolian passports if they really want... No, when you are out of NSK, there is no way back (unless Sokokurai exceptional case). So Kakuryu will have to be japanese at the time of retirement to benefit from the yokozuna temporary kabu if he doesn't have bought one yet
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    Games Bugs

    That is correct, I already asked for a recomputation. In the worst case, if it is not done within a week or if @Doitsuyama is unable to do so I will do the job manually.
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    Games Bugs

    After the mono-ii, the mistake was deemed genuine by the committee, so both entries won't be disqualified as per the rules, but "Chelseayama has" did entry before "Chelseayama", therefore this first entry is invalidated. The results have now been corrected, with Abi and Ishiura unable to score points. Juryo Game final standings for Aki 2020, valid for championship points @Randomitsuki 1- Kintamayama - 119 2- Kaito - 118 3- chishafuwaku - 118 4- Achiyama - 117 5- WAKATAKE - 114 6- Terarno - 112 7- Hironoumi - 112 8- Unkonoyama - 112 9- Kotononami - 111 10- Oskahanada - 111 11- Konosato - 111 12- Profomisakari - 111