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  1. Games Bugs

    Ok, don't worry it will be counted as such for banzuke making purposes. But I'm not sure it is possible to change it in the automation for this basho... Also I will let Rando know if you score any superbanzuke points.
  2. Basho Talk - Aki 2017 (SPOILERS)<=&having=0&day=3&m=on&rank1=K-Y&wins1=3 And the first time since Hatsu 2007 that no sanyaku in undefeated after day 3
  3. Meet up in Paris?

    I have a job meeting in Paris on the 22nd, quite unfortunate you leave one day earlier. I hope you will enjoy the city!
  4. Natsu jungyo 2017 goatalk

    Right... As far as I know, the japanese use seasons names centered on the equinox/solstice. So Summer (Natsu) would be roughly May 5th - August 5th (so Natsu basho is in the range). And Autumn (Aki) would be roughly August 5th - November 5th (so perfect for Aki basho). So yeah, this august jungyo takes place in japanese autumn... Is there any reason I am not aware of?
  5. Intai notice

    Sorry to hear the retirement of such a legendary sumogamer, but I understand that the commitment his huge, particularly since you spend to much time. My daily picks take 20 mins at most, and as for the pre-basho, I'd say 2/3 hours. Perhaps Flohru is right about the ratio time/fun/results. As for the Juryo Game banzuke, I'd like to volunteer if you still want to be freed of it. I never did game banzuke-making before, but I have pretty decent results in GTB...
  6. Basho Talk - Nagoya 2017 (SPOILERS)

    Kisenosato can still take advantage of his Hatsu explosion and Haru heroic yusho. Yet he stands one step behind Kakuryu in the danger zone...
  7. Greatest of All Time

    It is always difficult (if not impossible) to compare rikishi who fought in different times. So many parameters... How many yusho would have won Harumafuji if Hakuho did not exist? The question is both relevant (as an assessment value) and irrelevant (as Hakuho does exist). We can count the yusho but back in time there were not 6 basho per year. And in your lists you are focusing on yusho-era rikishi. What about Raiden? Can he only be benchmarked with 20th/21st century rikishi? Perhaps we could use some kind of fuzzy logic model to compute "strenght" of rikishi, with the year as a base unit. Yet some (arbitrary) rules must be set: how are the wins counted, how are the yusho taken into consideration, how are the draws handled... how do we handle injuries... (how) do we take the strenght of the opposition into consideration ???
  8. Haru 2017 Superbanzuke

    Whaw, sorry for the time of reaction, but I am very pleased to see my first makuuchi appearance, just one basho after Juryo debut. It is crazy as I only started in Hatsu 2016 and I still in the bottom of banzuke of many games (which need banzuke climbing) I hope I will be able to remain in the main division, but with my Haru results I'm not so sure... Be afraid Germany, Japan, the US... Be afraid, as San Marino is coming
  9. Basho Talk ** Haru Basho 2017 ** (SPOILERS)

    I would rather say that entertaining the audience is the consequence of the professionalization. As it must be fun for the people to watch, for the sponsors to come, for the wrestlers to be paid. In this frame, if the audience dislike henkas so much, they would have been prohibited altogether, as they could have a loss of income money as a consequence. Perhaps in the future it will be forbidden, but then some people will have to define what is and what is not a henka (which is not an easy business). One of the pleasures in enjoying a nice bout is the fact that this nice bout could have been not fought because of the will of one of the two wrestlers. They have been henkas in musubi-no-ichiban of senshurakus, on kettei-sen (even makuuchi)...
  10. Basho Talk ** Haru Basho 2017 ** (SPOILERS)

    Of course I was happy about Terunofuji's win, but I would have prefered a long tough bout, with strong action. However this is before everything else a sport (unless you are considering it under the traditional shinto religious side), and this is not a show. It is not meant to entertain people before all. If it does, this is great, but this is not the main purpose.
  11. Basho Talk ** Haru Basho 2017 ** (SPOILERS)

    Henka is part of the game, this move was clever by Terunofuji. I hope he wil be able to grab his second yusho tomorrow, but we must be careful as long as Kisenosato is not kyujo, he is still in contention. At worst, Terunofuji will get a 13-2D, which would mean the beginning of a yokozuna run, if he wins the yusho in May. This could lead to as historic yokozuna run as 5 yokozuna is a thing that never occurred in sumo (if I remember well)
  12. Trivia bits

    Hakuho lost to Ikioi on day 4. It is the first loss on day 4 since the Haru basho 2008, when he lost to Aminishiki on day 4. During this 9-year time span, despite 2 kyujo, he won 50 consecutive day 4 bouts he fought
  13. Promotion/Demotion and Yusho discussion Haru 2017

    As Kintamayama just said, there is quite a clear line at Ms15 for 7-0 promotions. In the last 40 years (from Natsu 77 on), it happened only once that a below-ms15 was promoted to Juryo (Daimanazuru, 7-0 at Ms16w at Kyushu 2003), and it happened only once that a over-ms15 was not promoted (Shimoda, 7-0 at Ms15TD at Natsu 2006). Btw, I remember Shimoda was presented as a hope, and after this non-promotion yusho, never did it to juryo, sadly.
  14. Basho Talk ** Haru Basho 2017 ** (SPOILERS)

    No, a demoted sekiwake gets the lowest sekiwake rank, which can be S1w if no other rikishi "deserves" the sekiwake spot, but in this case there will be no S2 (unless multiple ozeki demotions). If two rikishi (or more) deserve the sekiwake spot, an additional sekiwake spot is opened and the demoted ozeki is ranked S2e (or S2w if three rikishi deserve it, e.g. 2 kk sekiwake, 1 stong 12-3 komusubi and 1 demoted ozeki; or even S2w for balancing reasons between east and west)
  15. Basho Talk ** Haru Basho 2017 ** (SPOILERS)

    Tamanoumi in 1970 and Kashiwado in 1961, during the multiple promotion basho In 1948 Azumafuji was promoted from O1w, yet it was the top ozeki spot for this basho (why?) Last time it occured was in 1947 with Maedayama going 11-2J 9-1D at ranks O2eHD and O1w. In this case what I do not understand is why Maedayama was O1w at this basho, since he did 11-2 while the rikishi in O1e, Saganohana, ranked behind him at O2wHD, only did 10-3 at the previous basho. If someone knows about it, I'm very curious to know I hardly understand the rules for banzuke making of the {6 basho per year, 15 days per basho} era