Andreas21 219 Posted March 23, 2012 As for who goes down I think only Takanoyama and Hochiyama will. If Kyokotenho retires and Kakuryu clears a Meagashira spot 4 juryo candidates are needed and not so easily found except Chiyotairyu. Both J4 may have a chance to go up. J1-3 have to do at least KK to go, lets see who manages. I guess J7 is too low. So Ikioi and Takarfuji may be saved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 20,215 Posted March 23, 2012 (edited) If ... Kakuryu clears a Meagashira spot That's not how it works; makuuchi is fixed at 42 rikishi in total. Kakuryu's promotion would strip away the M16w rank. I guess J7 is too low. Not with the 12-3 Kimikaze could still achieve. 11-4 for him and Masunoyama could work as well if the demotable records are bad enough. Chiyonokuni could be in danger of dropping if all others save themselves. Edited March 23, 2012 by Asashosakari Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Manekineko 200 Posted March 24, 2012 Okay, my Japanese is no better than yours but I had my wife who is Japanese (but not familiar with sumo) listen to this. She says that at first they thought the winner had pulled the mage but they determined that either he did not pull it or that it did not affect the outcome of the match. I think the first explanation would be more reasonable but it sure looked like the mage was pulled to me.... From what I heard "but the east side rikishi did not hold the mage" so the decision is upheld. Since this is a good opportunity to practice my Japanese, here's the transcription of what I heard. Part in quotation marks is the one I'm not sure I heard correctly: Gyouji gumbai wa higashigata rikishi ni agemashita ga, higashigata rikishi ga nishigata rikishi no mage "wo ippate n" dewanai koto, kyougi shita kekka: mage ni te wo kakate orazu, gunbai doori, higashigata rikishi no kachi wo itashimasu. Gyoji raised his gunbai to the east side rikishi, but (there was a question whether?) east-side rikishi (pulled?) west-side's rikishi mage. Here is the result of the discussion: since he didn't pull the mage, gunbai doori, it's east-side rikishi's win. I love it how shinpan-buchou uses east-side and west-side rikishi since he doesn't know the names of the rikishi, and doesn't have the cheat-sheet like gyoji and yobidashi... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 47,171 Posted March 24, 2012 Gyouji gumbai wa higashigata rikishi ni agemashita ga, higashigata rikishi ga nishigata rikishi no mage "wo ippate n" dewanai koto, kyougi shita kekka: mage ni te wo kakate orazu, gunbai doori, higashigata rikishi no kachi wo itashimasu. Gyoji raised his gunbai to the east side rikishi, but (there was a question whether?) east-side rikishi (pulled?) west-side's rikishi mage. Here is the result of the discussion: since he didn't pull the mage, gunbai doori, it's east-side rikishi's win. Perfect translation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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kuroimori 1,634 Posted March 24, 2012 Gyouji gumbai wa higashigata rikishi ni agemashita ga, higashigata rikishi ga nishigata rikishi no mage "wo ippate n" dewanai koto, kyougi shita kekka: mage ni te wo kakate orazu, gunbai doori, higashigata rikishi no kachi wo itashimasu. Gyoji raised his gunbai to the east side rikishi, but (there was a question whether?) east-side rikishi (pulled?) west-side's rikishi mage. Here is the result of the discussion: since he didn't pull the mage, gunbai doori, it's east-side rikishi's win. Perfect translation. I can't agree more. In this case, the shimpan spoke in a very clear manner, usually the explanations sound more bossy-comfortable-mumblier Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andreas21 219 Posted March 24, 2012 That's not how it works; makuuchi is fixed at 42 rikishi in total. ... Thanks for the clarification. I should have thought and read before writing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Treblemaker 254 Posted March 25, 2012 I don't think I've ever see Kise blast out of the cannon like that before. Was his tachi-ai that good? Or was Baruto just a lot slower? And as much as I'd love Kak to take this one, Goeido is having a great time. Possibility of an upset? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronnie 221 Posted March 25, 2012 I don't think I've ever see Kise blast out of the cannon like that before. Was his tachi-ai that good? Or was Baruto just a lot slower? I would suggest you go back and watch the vid on that one. Kisenosato's right hand was about a foot above the clay when he launched into an unready Baruto. He pulled a similar stunt against Kakuryu. The difference in that bout was the opposite hand. Both instances involved the "matta" being on the blind side of the head shimpan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bugman 384 Posted March 25, 2012 What an exciting couple of weeks it's been, right up to the point where the ring of rikishi were throwing that gentleman up in the air, something i really wasn't expecting and will eagerly find out what that was all about soon hopefully :) As a Hakuho fan the last bout ended as i would have hoped, he better have a big garage as that was a lot of trophies! but also an amazing effort by soon-to-be Ozeki kakuryo, thank you kintamayama for the last two weeks of excellent humour, education and entertainment, it really is a pleasure every time i see a new compilation :) As always i am left a little sad at the end of the basho, you may laugh but since i've discovered sumo a new cycle has been introduced into my life which was not there before, i've never eagerly waited so much for any event that happens once every couple of months, here's to the next basho! (Kensho parade...) 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 47,171 Posted March 25, 2012 (edited) Final Day videos-thanks for allowing me to do this.. Edited March 25, 2012 by Kintamayama 13 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisC 7 Posted March 25, 2012 (edited) Well said, Bugman. I feel the same way. As an admirer of Hakuho, it doesn't get any better than today's sumo. Thanks again, Kintamayama. You add so much to each basho Edited March 25, 2012 by ChrisC 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Igordemorais 79 Posted March 25, 2012 Thanks Kintamayama! You rule Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kuroyama 715 Posted March 25, 2012 Final Day videos-thanks for allowing me to do this.. No, thank YOU for all your hard work to help out those of us who might not be able to see the bouts otherwise, and your commentary is not to be missed. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Terarno 47 Posted March 25, 2012 Thanks a lot, Kintamayama ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kotomikey 10 Posted March 25, 2012 (edited) Thank you, Kintamayama. With out these videos, I would miss out on sumo. Edited March 25, 2012 by Kotomikey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Arrow87 7 Posted March 25, 2012 I rarely post anything, but I also want to thank kintamayama and araibira! Araibira, because now I can finally see how my adoptees are doing (and all the other interesting rikishis below Juryo), I actually never thought anyone would ever upload so many bouts from makushita or below. And Kintamayama, because it's always entertaining to watch all Makuuchi bouts in one, and also his comments sometimes after a bout. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
igirisujin 3 Posted March 25, 2012 Sentiments echoed. Thanks man, you're pretty cool ;-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shiroiyama 0 Posted March 25, 2012 Thanks so much Kintamayama! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Borislav 4 Posted March 25, 2012 Thank you Kintamayama and Araibira for providing these great videos! I hope you will be able to do this for many coming bashos :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asabiru 8 Posted March 25, 2012 Add me the very thankful list. A job well done, and very appreciated! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gusoyama 104 Posted March 26, 2012 Thanks again Kintamayama, your videos have been part of the reason I've been enjoying sumo again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hageouryu 18 Posted March 27, 2012 And one more vote of thanks for the videos Kintamamyama. This basho. Previous bashos. The seemingly daily news updates throughout the years. Trivia. Humour. Making the effort again and again and again to make visiting this website so enjoyable and informative. The earlier comment by Igordemorais that you have more fans in Brazil than you can imagine is probably mirrored all around the English-accessing sumo world. Big big respect. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 47,171 Posted March 27, 2012 I'd like to thank everyone who thanked me. The bottom line is I actually enjoy doing the videos. The fact that others enjoy them as well is a great bonus. <bow> 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites