Doitsuyama 1,194 Posted March 11, 2008 The two yokozuna are the last remaining undefeated sanyaku after only three days as Kisenosato shoved Chiyotaikai to the ground, making it look easy. The seven remaining undefeated maegashira aren't looking like even remote yusho candidates (with the exception of Hokutoriki who has been in a yusho race rather long ago). Maybe Homasho or Tochiozan really have turned a corner and can run hot in low makuuchi but I'm pretty sure we'll see a yusho showdown between the two yokozuna on senshuraku. Tochinoshin still is looking very strong with a powerful win over Hakuba and leading juryo at 3-0, along with Tosanoumi, Chiyohakuho and Kimurayama. Hoshihikari won against gimpy Hakurozan and is 2-1 now. Day 3 Juryo Ms1e Bushuyama (2-0) yorikiri J14w Sagatsukasa (1-2) J14e Kimurayama (3-0) okuridashi J13w Kirinowaka (0-3) J13e Katayama (2-1) hikiotoshi J12w Tosayutaka (1-2) J12e Hokutokuni (1-2) yorikiri J11w Shunketsu (1-2) J10w Ushiomaru (2-1) oshidashi J11e Kyokunankai (2-1) J10e Kitataiki (2-1) yorikiri J9w Shimotori (1-2) J9e Masatsukasa (2-1) oshidashi J8w Kasuganishiki (2-1) J8e Shirononami (1-2) okuridashi J7w Toyozakura (0-3) J6w Hochiyama (1-2) oshidashi J7e Tamawashi (2-1) J6e Chiyohakuho (3-0) oshidashi J5w Mokonami (1-2) J5e Tamanoshima (2-1) oshidashi J4w Kitazakura (1-2) J4e Tochinoshin (3-0) yorikiri J3w Hakuba (0-3) J2w Koryu (1-2) oshidashi J3e Kotokasuga (1-2) J1w Hoshihikari (2-1) yorikiri J2e Hakurozan (1-2) Makuuchi J1e Tosanoumi (3-0) hatakikomi M16w Ryuo (0-3) M16e Otsukasa (3-0) hikiotoshi M15w Sakaizawa (2-1) M15e Wakakirin (1-2) kubihineri M14w Kakizoe (2-1) M13e Homasho (3-0) hatakikomi M12w Yoshikaze (0-3) M12e Tochiozan (3-0) oshidashi M14e Kaiho (0-3) M10w Tamakasuga (1-2) hatakikomi M11e Toyohibiki (0-3) M11w Takamisakari (3-0) yorikiri M10e Futeno (1-2) M9e Iwakiyama (2-1) yorikiri M8w Tochinonada (0-3) M9w Kasugao (3-0) uwatenage M8e Goeido (2-1) M7e Baruto (2-1) yorikiri M6w Dejima (0-3) M7w Hokutoriki (3-0) oshidashi M6e Roho (1-2) M5w Kokkai (3-0) sukuinage M3w Toyonoshima (0-3) M5e Wakanosato (1-2) yorikiri M3e Tokitenku (2-1) M4w Kyokutenho (2-1) yorikiri S1w Kotoshogiku (1-2) M4e Wakanoho (2-1) hikiotoshi S1e Ama (1-2) M1e Asasekiryu (2-1) uwatenage O1w Kotomitsuki (0-3) O1e Kotooshu (2-1) hatakikomi M2w Miyabiyama (0-3) K1e Kisenosato (2-1) oshitaoshi O2w Chiyotaikai (2-1) O2e Kaio (2-1) hatakikomi K1w Takekaze (0-3) Y1w Asashoryu (3-0) yoritaoshi M2e Aminishiki (1-2) Y1e Hakuho (3-0) kirikaeshi M1w Kakuryu (1-2) Day 4 Juryo J14e Kimurayama (3-0) Ms1w Satoyama (0-2) J13e Katayama (2-1) J14w Sagatsukasa (1-2) J11e Kyokunankai (2-1) J12w Tosayutaka (1-2) J13w Kirinowaka (0-3) J11w Shunketsu (1-2) J12e Hokutokuni (1-2) J10w Ushiomaru (2-1) J8e Shirononami (1-2) J9w Shimotori (1-2) J10e Kitataiki (2-1) J8w Kasuganishiki (2-1) J7e Tamawashi (2-1) J9e Masatsukasa (2-1) J7w Toyozakura (0-3) J5w Mokonami (1-2) J6w Hochiyama (1-2) J4w Kitazakura (1-2) J6e Chiyohakuho (3-0) J3w Hakuba (0-3) J2e Hakurozan (1-2) J5e Tamanoshima (2-1) J4e Tochinoshin (3-0) J2w Koryu (1-2) J1e Tosanoumi (3-0) J3e Kotokasuga (1-2) Makuuchi M16e Otsukasa (3-0) J1w Hoshihikari (2-1) M16w Ryuo (0-3) M14w Kakizoe (2-1) M12e Tochiozan (3-0) M15e Wakakirin (1-2) M15w Sakaizawa (2-1) M12w Yoshikaze (0-3) M11e Toyohibiki (0-3) M13e Homasho (3-0) M14e Kaiho (0-3) M11w Takamisakari (3-0) M10e Futeno (1-2) M9w Kasugao (3-0) M10w Tamakasuga (1-2) M8w Tochinonada (0-3) M7e Baruto (2-1) M9e Iwakiyama (2-1) M8e Goeido (2-1) M7w Hokutoriki (3-0) M6w Dejima (0-3) M5w Kokkai (3-0) M4e Wakanoho (2-1) M6e Roho (1-2) M5e Wakanosato (1-2) M4w Kyokutenho (2-1) M1e Asasekiryu (2-1) M3e Tokitenku (2-1) S1e Ama (1-2) K1w Takekaze (0-3) O2e Kaio (2-1) K1e Kisenosato (2-1) M3w Toyonoshima (0-3) O1w Kotomitsuki (0-3) O1e Kotooshu (2-1) M1w Kakuryu (1-2) S1w Kotoshogiku (1-2) O2w Chiyotaikai (2-1) Y1e Hakuho (3-0) M2e Aminishiki (1-2) M2w Miyabiyama (0-3) Y1w Asashoryu (3-0) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asojima 2,874 Posted March 11, 2008 Kokkai may be feeling pressure from his Georgian compatriot, Tochinoshin. He seems to again be reverting to the quality sumo that got him to Makuuchi. He has looked good so far. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
messi19 0 Posted March 11, 2008 (edited) It is virtually impossible for Kotooshu to lose to Miyabiyama these days. He must love this match-up. The elegant mountain's tsuppari have no effect whatsoever on him, in fact Kotooshu is more likely to oshi-dashi him than the other way around and the other way Miyabiyama knows to win which is setting up a pull-down by getting his opponent off-balance or stumbling is not going to work either, because his tsuppari just have no impact of that sort on Kotooshu. I guess Kotooshu could still make Yokozuna if he could convince the Kyokai to fight Miyabiyama every single day. (Sign of approval...) Edited March 11, 2008 by messi19 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harry 67 Posted March 11, 2008 Not the best day of sumo with a lot of slap downs, even though some ended up being slight variations in the kimarite so not all show up as hatakikomis. Not a lot of skilled deashi was shown tonight as many were putting themselves into bad forward positions ripe for hatakikomi and hikiotoshi. Several would have been tsukite's if not for a little help with a back pat from their aite to avoid a non-technique win. I was bleary eyed barely waking up in time (no alarm as usual) at 3:15am this morning though I saw the first few matches again better during the halftime break's replays. A round of happy birthday from the announcers (otanjoubi omedetou gozaimasu, otanjoubi omedetou gozaimasu!) was not much help for Ryuo who is 25 years old today but he received no present from Tousanomi. Tousanomi started things off, coming out very strong to show he belongs in makuuchi. At 0-3 Ryuo is looking like he'll be in juryo next time. Otsukasa is 3-0 with the slap-down hikiotoshi. Kakizoe's strong forward sumo was not rewarded when Wakakirin managed a neck twist on him which was mostly Kakizoe's own momentum taking himself down and out to fall to 2-1 while Wakakirin now has one in the win column. Homasho had a sloppy win over Yoshikaze with the slap down but almost fell down himself several times in the match so his 3-0 unbeaten record now doesn't look as strong as yesterday. I hope he returns to form tomorrow which should be easy against Toyohibiki at 0-3. Tochiozan continues his strong all win performance over my continued hapless pick of Kaiho and will likely go 4-0 over Wakakirin on day 4. Tamakasuga continued the slap-down fest. Takamisakari continued his parade of envelopes with a win over the poor efforts of Futeno with a nice forward moving attack ending in yorikiri and much applause. With a match tomorrow against Kaiho he looks like a good pick to go to 4-0. Iwakiyama also had a strong yorikiri to improve to 2-1 and looks like the next one will be easy against Tochinonada. Kusugao had an excellent tachiai and a great grip which proved to be the difference in derailing the Goeido train with a nice uwatenage throw to collect the envelopes from the other banner announced maegashira. Futeno will likely be easy pickings for Kusugao next day. Baruto is now at 2-1 with an easy win over Dejima who seems like he doesn't want to be here. A bit more of a test perhaps against Iwakiyama tomorrow. Hokutoriki won over the powerless Roho to go to 3-0 but this was a very easy one. Should be a good fight tomorrow with Goeido. Toyonoshima put up much more of a fight than I'd expected with Kokkai but the latter ended up with the nice sukuinage win in the end after some encouragement from the gyoji to keep up the action. Kokkai faces the winless Dejima tomorrow for an almost guaranteed win. Wakanosato looked better than his 1-2 shohai with a yorikiri win over Tokitenku. Kotoshogiku looks hurt with his loss to Kyohutenho with a big grimace on his face as he was forced out of the dohyo. I'm worried about his right knee and he could prove to be an easier opponent for Chiyotaikai tomorrow than I'd imagined at first. Wakanoho looked strong beating Ama who hit the dohyo hard with his right shoulder and was wincing in pain as he walked down the hanamichi. Wakanoho should walk over Roho tomorrow while Ama should be able to get back to .500 against Takekaze tomorrow though you never know with that shoulder. As I predicted yesterday, Asasekiryu put Kotomitsuki down to 0-3. He finished with a good uwatenage. Tomorrow against 0-3 Toyonoshima, Kotomitsuki should get a win while Asasekiryu should be in a good match with Tokitenku. Miyabiyama showed good forward movement and strength but then forced the Ozeki to hatakikomi him so he wouldn't just tsukite himself. Chiyotaikai again came out of the tachiai very strong, nice harites pushed Kisenosato to the edge of the ring but then inexplicably he backed up and pulled Kisenosato's neck down but wasn't strong enough, lost his footing and ended up in a silly oshitaoshi inside the ring! He was upset with himself and so am I because while I expected him to lose this match he actually came out strong and with more forward effort I believe he could have oshidashi'd Kisenosato out of the ring. Instead they're both 2-1 and I hope this isn't a turning point for the worse for Taikai. Kaio helped Takekaze avoid tsukite with a hatakikomi 'win' by lightly patting him on the back as he fell down, falling to 0-3 in the process. Aminishiki's recent wins over Asashoryu were shown before their match and he tried but Asashoryu sent him crashing out of the dohyo where he could barely climb back up for his bow. Miyabiyama should be a walk in the park for Asa on day 4. The birthday wishes continued with another round of otanjoubi omedetou gozaimuas from the announcers for Hakuhou who is 23 today! He did get his present in a fairly easy win over a game Kakuryu who let him finish the match with flair with a kirikaeshi. Kakuryu meets Kotooshu tomorrow while Hakuhou will see Aminishiki for what should be a win. I missed the dohyo-iri and they didn't show the yumitorishiki (Bow ceremony) either so not the best day. I could have slept through this one. Here's hoping tomorrow is less sloppy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ilovesumo 12 Posted March 11, 2008 MakuuchiM16e Otsukasa (3-0) versus J1w Hoshihikari (2-1) Oh he will be nervous...but not because it's Otsukasa he has to fight... Makuuchi feeling is pretty different from Juryo...first Makuuchi bout is the time many latecomers and now lighter people (sake makes you run (Sign of approval...) ) rush in . Nervous atmosphere....wishing him nerves of steel....thank god it's not the bout Takamisakari walks in... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kotoku 0 Posted March 11, 2008 Nice summary Harry! I am back in Sacramento and cannot watch the matches. Thanks for ther great descriptions! :- ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bealzbob 0 Posted March 11, 2008 Aminishiki looked very sore after tumbling out with Asashoryu. I hope he's OK for the remainder of the tourney. Nice write-up Harry although I slightly disagree with how easy Baruto's win was. For me, once again, Baruto did not look agile at all. If he gets someone who can twist and turn on him then I think he's a sitting duck. For me it looks like he can only go back and forward in this basho and even the little direction changes that Dejima used caused Baruto a disproportionate amount of difficulty (IMHO of course (Sign of approval...)) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaikitsune Makoto 209 Posted March 11, 2008 My views: Wakanoho's monkey arms are an anomaly. Odd bout, odd man. Chiyotaikai was brilliant with his tactics causing matta and then disarming Kise's tachi-ai totally by perfectly stalling and then even managing one of the best tachi-ais in a long time hitting very late Kise with full force; the follow up was very well timed too: Only reason he didn't win was Kise's defensive power and solid hip power. Taikai did everything pretty much right but lost. Kakuryu has self confidence peak. Everything works like a dream. Grip changes, footwork and so. He was very good against Hakuho all the way. O3 looks healthy but has had weak foes. Toyohibiki looks like he is going 2-13 like at keiko. Goeido vs Kasugao was beautiful. Aiyotsu between two very good migiyotsu specialists. Nobody in sumo wants to go chest to chest in migiyotsu against Kasugao as his power is immense. He has been throwing Shoryu and Hakuho around with airborne uwatenage and he certainly looks super genki now with 3 strong throwing wins. Goeido lost his left hand outside grip and didn't have much chance to counter the inevitable uwatenage then. Kasugao looks awesome. if only he could force bouts more to his own sumo and he could challenge all every day. I don't know if Kotomitsuki has some physical handicap but I am sure he has mental stiffness now and just thinks too much of winning. Today it was like a classic too much tension-loss. Sekihiryu didn't have to do much. Kaiho looks quite weak. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bealzbob 0 Posted March 11, 2008 How did Tosayutaka look in his bout? It's the 1 bout missing from info-sumo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Buckton 1 Posted March 11, 2008 My views:Wakanoho's monkey arms are an anomaly. Odd bout, odd man. watch it again - watch his right hand on slo mo if you can. At first glance, untidy, but a couple of times and I was pretty impressed by that left / right combination. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryK 38 Posted March 11, 2008 Aminishiki looked very sore after tumbling out with Asashoryu. I hope he's OK for the remainder of the tourney. This was a brutal throw. Asashoryu put all his weight on Aminishiki's neck till Aminishiki gave in and flip-flopped out of the ring, with Asashoryu landing on top of him. I reckon Asashoryu could have had that easier -- he was about to push Aminiski out of the dohyo anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harry 67 Posted March 11, 2008 (edited) Aminishiki looked very sore after tumbling out with Asashoryu. I hope he's OK for the remainder of the tourney.Nice write-up Harry although I slightly disagree with how easy Baruto's win was. For me, once again, Baruto did not look agile at all. If he gets someone who can twist and turn on him then I think he's a sitting duck. For me it looks like he can only go back and forward in this basho and even the little direction changes that Dejima used caused Baruto a disproportionate amount of difficulty (IMHO of course (Sign of approval...)) I'm not saying Baruto looks good, quite to the contrary I'm just saying that Dejima looks absolutely terrible, unable to stop anything, even just Baruto's forward movement. So Dejima made Baruto look kind of good by comparison but any agile rikishi can probably just walk behind him and push him out. As I said, it looks like Dejima doesn't even want to be there. [Edit: why did I write Roho instead of Dejima? Roho was yesterday but after a few days of 3am sumo I'm a little bit tired...] Edited March 11, 2008 by Harry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bealzbob 0 Posted March 11, 2008 That's Dejima, not Roho, but I agree with you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryK 38 Posted March 11, 2008 Aminishiki looked very sore after tumbling out with Asashoryu. I hope he's OK for the remainder of the tourney.Nice write-up Harry although I slightly disagree with how easy Baruto's win was. For me, once again, Baruto did not look agile at all. If he gets someone who can twist and turn on him then I think he's a sitting duck. For me it looks like he can only go back and forward in this basho and even the little direction changes that Dejima used caused Baruto a disproportionate amount of difficulty (IMHO of course (Sign of approval...)) I'm not saying Baruto looks good, quite to the contrary I'm just saying that Roho looks absolutely terrible, unable to stop anything, even just Baruto's forward movement. Few rikishi can stop Baruto's forward movement once he has them solidly pinned to his chest. Baruto is still incredibly strong, I'm not sure whether even Hakuho matches him in this department. But what he badly lacks is agility. In my expectation, Roho vs. Wakanoho isn't a done deal at all. But we'll see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harry 67 Posted March 11, 2008 (edited) Aminishiki looked very sore after tumbling out with Asashoryu. I hope he's OK for the remainder of the tourney. This was a brutal throw. Asashoryu put all his weight on Aminishiki's neck till Aminishiki gave in and flip-flopped out of the ring, with Asashoryu landing on top of him. I reckon Asashoryu could have had that easier -- he was about to push Aminiski out of the dohyo anyway. He replied about the previous day's match where something similar occured and said Kakuryu was still fighting to stay in the dohyo so he had to fight to push him out. I expected he'd say something similar about today's match as it really was brutal with Amini doing a sommersault on the floor outside the ring but so far all I've seen reported as being said by Asa is いい相撲になっている, ii sumo ni natte iru, becoming good sumo. Edited March 11, 2008 by Harry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bealzbob 0 Posted March 11, 2008 My take on Asa's throw was that Aminishiki was trying to stay in the ring despite being in a hopeless position. If he had accepted the defeat earlier (and let's face it he WAS beaten well before he tumbled) then Asa wouldn't have had to chuck him out. Asa can't really be blamed (although no doubt he will be) whereas Aminishiki set up his own fall (literally). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harry 67 Posted March 11, 2008 (edited) Nice summary Harry! I am back in Sacramento and cannot watch the matches. Thanks for ther great descriptions! :- ) I'm glad you've found them useful but I'm surprised you can't see them in Sacramento. Isn't TVJapan available in your area? TVJapan is essentially NHK and I pay for it here to watch it on digital cable. http://www.tvjapan.net/en/watching/index.html They show makuuchi ozumo and some smaller tournaments with Japanese and English (Secondary Audio Program). Looks like Comcast carry it in your area: http://www.tvjapan.net/en/watching/cabletv...&cable_ip=C Looks like DISH and IPTV are in Sacramento too at similar (almost exactly the same) prices. I agree it is pricey but its cheaper than plane and basho tickets ;) Though not quite as good :( Edited March 11, 2008 by Harry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,726 Posted March 11, 2008 How did Tosayutaka look in his bout? It's the 1 bout missing from info-sumo. Special service...see for yourself. (Scratching chin...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bealzbob 0 Posted March 11, 2008 Thanks !! But ... oh dear (Scratching chin...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,726 Posted March 11, 2008 Toyohibiki looks like he is going 2-13 like at keiko. Like a poor man's Dejima without any plan B (i.e. unlike Dejima's strong sukuinage in his best days)... I'm not even sure if he's harboring an injury like most struggling rikishi would, it just looks like everybody has figured him out since approximately Kyushu and he's completely unable to adapt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taka 33 Posted March 11, 2008 (edited) Hard to remember a slower less energetic bout than that Toyohibiki-Tamakasuga one. Edited March 11, 2008 by Taka Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harry 67 Posted March 11, 2008 (edited) Hard to remember a slower less energetic bout than that Toyohibiki-Tamakasuga one. I hesitated for a moment to decide whether to write anything about it but included a short sentence for completeness... Tamakasuga (1-2) vs. Tochinonada (0-3) promises to be about as good today which is too bad as those two used to get a bunch of kinboshi. They used to be dangerous even if they never got a makuuchi yusho. Time marches on, yes, but I hope there is still some fire left. Edited March 11, 2008 by Harry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tetsuonoumi 0 Posted March 12, 2008 Aminishiki looked very sore after tumbling out with Asashoryu. I hope he's OK for the remainder of the tourney. This was a brutal throw. Asashoryu put all his weight on Aminishiki's neck till Aminishiki gave in and flip-flopped out of the ring, with Asashoryu landing on top of him. I reckon Asashoryu could have had that easier -- he was about to push Aminiski out of the dohyo anyway. He replied about the previous day's match where something similar occured and said Kakuryu was still fighting to stay in the dohyo so he had to fight to push him out. I expected he'd say something similar about today's match as it really was brutal with Amini doing a sommersault on the floor outside the ring but so far all I've seen reported as being said by Asa is いい相撲になっている, ii sumo ni natte iru, becoming good sumo. Yea, WOW, the last two Asashoryu fights ended nasty. Day two was completely unsportsmanlike. Day three was freakin' scary and also unnecessary. And I'm an Asashoryu fan. But wow, he really is a powderkeg. He's gonna take over Takamisakari's role as chief whack job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryK 38 Posted March 12, 2008 Aminishiki looked very sore after tumbling out with Asashoryu. I hope he's OK for the remainder of the tourney. This was a brutal throw. Asashoryu put all his weight on Aminishiki's neck till Aminishiki gave in and flip-flopped out of the ring, with Asashoryu landing on top of him. I reckon Asashoryu could have had that easier -- he was about to push Aminiski out of the dohyo anyway. He replied about the previous day's match where something similar occured and said Kakuryu was still fighting to stay in the dohyo so he had to fight to push him out. I expected he'd say something similar about today's match as it really was brutal with Amini doing a sommersault on the floor outside the ring but so far all I've seen reported as being said by Asa is いい相撲になっている, ii sumo ni natte iru, becoming good sumo. Yea, WOW, the last two Asashoryu fights ended nasty. Day two was completely unsportsmanlike. Day three was freakin' scary and also unnecessary. And I'm an Asashoryu fan. But wow, he really is a powderkeg. He's gonna take over Takamisakari's role as chief whack job. I agree, even though I found this one worse than the day before -- the Aminishiki throw looked really dangerous. Well we know that Asashoryu has this super-competitive edge that makes him go especially hard after opponents who have annoyed him in the past (Aminishiki, Kisenosato) and intimidate folks he fights for the first time. Hopefully we don't see more of this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites