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Thanks Asashosakari. But just to clarify, by 'leg trip' I was more on about the inadvertent(sic) kick that precedes the attempted trip. So they 'try' the trip with the real intention of kicking the stuffing out of the foot/ankle.

Is it the 'done' (i.e. accepted) thing in ozumo to target a known injury? In other words if Kotooshu chooses to participate in Nagoya, can he expect plenty of leg trip attempts from those rikishi who could pull off such a move?

I had Myogiryu in sanyaku, then I swapped him with Kyokutenho. I figured the yusho would just push Kyok over the line. It didn't :-/ I'm also surprised Ikioi got the nod over Asasekiryu. FWIW I had Miyabiyama @ M10w & Shotenro @ M7e so only half a rank out.

I have Asasekiryu staying up at Ikioi's expense.

Oh no :-( Bad bad news. Good luck in the future Araibira. Hopefully you'll miss it and be back :-D Thanks for everything up to now. I guess I'm getting up nice and early for my footage now!!

Well one thing is for certain. He has time on his side. He's not even 19½ yet. You have to go down to Tatsu @ Ms16e to find someone younger (and he went MK). I would be confident that Chiyootori's oyakata will be well aware of his rikishi's shortcomings at this stage in his development. Though he must be doing something right in order to get to where he has at this point.

Subsequent responses notwithstanding. Another way of answering this is to flip it around. Go to my original post and look at the scenario. There are 6 definite demotions from makuuchi and only 5 remotely plausible promotions. The 6th 'promotion' or non-demotion will be one of the options I put forward. Given that fusensho doesn't count against a rikishi, I think his record stands on it's own merits.

It's my policy to have the first basho for all rikishi as the mae-zumo basho wheter they participate or not. Makes some things easier than having them just banzuke-gai. In the end I decided that it's not that important to differentiate if they couldn't participate in mae-zumo because of physical problems, mental problems, the oyakata decided so or the NSK decided it. Fact is this is his first basho and he wasn't in mae-zumo, so his record is 0-0-3. Don't get me wrong. That wasn't meant to be a criticism of you in any way. It was more a criticism of the NSK. He was no more a rikishi in this basho than I was.

I think you're both right :) In this instance there are plenty of deserving rikishi to fill the M1-M2 slots, but EizoShita is also right that make-koshi sanyaku rikishi regularly fall less than the usual win-loss formula for regular maegashira rikishi suggests.

Pity about the loss or he might've been sekitori for March. As it is, he'll be spending another basho in makushita. I like what I've seen though.

I've got them the other way around by virtue of Tochiozan having a higher starting rank.

You'd think he shouldn't appear in the maezumo results at all then if he wasn't allowed to participate. Ho hum.

0-0-3. What happened?

I actually think both of your komusubi slots are wrong. See you at Guess the Banzuke !! :)

It will be interesting (for me anyway) to see how they decide to fill the final place in makuuchi for Haru. With 6 clear demotions (and an arguable 7th) from makuuchi Nionoumi, Kaisei, Kyokushuho, Sagatsukasa, Tosayutaka & Yoshiazuma (Takanoyama being the arguable). And only 5 clear promotions Tamawashi, Hochiyama, Takarafuji, Wakanosato & Ikioi. The discussion is whether you do one of the following to fill the gap 1. Promote juryo debutant & yusho winner Chiyotairyu from J13w with a 13-2Y. Something that has never been done with that rank/record combo*. 2. Promote Shotenro from J5e with an 8-7. Something that hasn't happened since 1947 rendering it irrelevant. 3. Promote Kotoyuki from J7w with a 9-6. Something that hasn't happened since 1938. See above. 4. Keep Tosayutaka (M12w 4-11). Last happened in 1959. 5. Keep Sagatsukasa (M14w 5-10). Last happened in 1956. * Sagatsukasa was promoted from J12e with a 13-2Y in Natsu '10 but that's the only instance that comes close. The pausity of candidates also saves Takanoyama IMO. How do you think the gap will be filled? FWIW I've gone for option 1. Promoting the former tsukedashi through juryo in one basho.