madorosumaru 7 Posted November 22, 2007 (edited) Kaio: (Forcing out Kyokutenho in a too-easy bout) I just wanted to attack forward. More Kaio: (Now needing one more win for kachi-koshi) It's not over. It gets tough from now on. In any case, I just have to make the utmost effort in my sumo. Kyokutenho: (The crowd was all for Kaio) I suppose I could have beaten him if I tried [some tricks], but how could I do that under the circumstances. You know, as I was leaving, some spectators actually said "Thank you." Hakuho: (Attempting a rare leg technique prior to disposing Aminishiki) He he. What was that about? Maybe, I was trying something [new]. More Hakuho: (Finishing off Mon Ami with a more typical uwate-nage) The timing of that was just right. Even more Hakuho: (Having to face ichimon sempai Kaio next for perhaps the last time) I just have to gambarize and do my own sumo. Baruto: (A thorough victory over a genki opponent) Dejima-zeki is awfully strong going forward, so I told myself to definitely not try a pull. More Bart: (Next up is ozeki Chiyotaikai) I am going to borrow his chest and do good sumo regardless of whether I win or lose. Dejima: (Not much of a fight against Baruto) He grabbed the migi mawashi right off the bat. I got off to a late tachi-ai and couldn't hit him properly, so that's what happened. Toyonoshima: (Defeating Ama, to whom he has lost ten straight) Yesterday, I called home and my father predicted that I would win [today]. I am happy as all heck. Ama: (Getting flipped over mightily by personal patsy Toyonoshima) I'm not as concerned about him as I am about losing confidence in my sumo. I am thinking of losing [instead of about winning]. Tokitenku: (Getting his first kachi-koshi in three basho) I saw [Toyo] win with nice sumo right in front of me, so I felt I definitely couldn't lose. We both have strong desire to be the "top man of the heya." Takamisakari: (Winning again in his courageous return) [As for the injury] it is not as much painful as something that is bothersome. I plan to keep a clear mind and go full steam ahead. Chiyotaikai: (Slamming Kotomitsuki with a left shoulder block at tachi-ai) I don't do that often, but my body moved well [today]. Kotomitsuki: (Pummeled by Chiyotaikai in a top gun showdown) He put on awesome pressure. Today, I just couldn't do anything. Sadogatake Oyakata: (Taikai has been having trouble beating Mickey lately) I thought he might try a henka. More Taikai: (In response to Sadogatake) Never even gave that a thought. Kitanoumi Rijicho: (Explaining Taikai's good form) His thrusts are coming from down below. Kokonoe Oyakata: (Always a tough guy) If he blows this, he won't have another chance for yusho. Even more Taikai: Yusho? It would be stranger if I weren't conscious of that. No, I don't have any particular strategy. I am just going to go all out. Quote of the Day Wakakirin: (Pushing out veteran Tochinonada to remain one behind the leaders) Wow! This is heavy stuff. [However] I don't have the feeling that I am in actual yusho contention. Bart Sez Baruto: (Smilingly broadly at the assembled media after his win over Dejima) Good job, guys! Edited November 23, 2007 by madorosumaru Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bulsara 0 Posted November 22, 2007 Thank you madorosumaru! :-) Any comments from Kokkai about Wakahenkanoho's awful win? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 47,138 Posted November 23, 2007 Kyokutenho: (The crowd was all for Kaio) I suppose I could have beaten him if I tried [some tricks], but how could I do that under the circumstances. You know, as I was leaving, some spectators actually said "Thank you." I rest my case. The veterans just don't want to beat KaioU. "How could I do that under these circumstances"???? WTF??? This is blatanlty admitting to"comraderie yaocho". And no response?? Disgusting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hakajusakari 0 Posted November 23, 2007 (edited) bulsara wrote: Any comments from Kokkai about Wakahenkanoho's awful win? ----------------- When we did not hear anything from Kokkai for obvious reasons - I have a comment: Kaiho did the same a few times at his prime. The crowd and I enjoyed as well as today. Today's kimarite could have been uwatenage in stead of hikiotoshi = henka?. The fine videos in Info-Sumo show Wakanoho's hand on the mawashi. http://www.info-sumo.net/info/modules.php?...opic&t=4063 The only "awful" thing was Kokkai's disrespectful demeanour. The gyoji had to ask for a second bow after the bout and there was nothing to blame on Wakanoho's first one. Edited November 23, 2007 by Hakajusakari Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sekihiryu 51 Posted November 23, 2007 Quote of the day was from Murray Johnson on the English broadcast "looks like they are on a date...but they are not - this is sumo!" said when Kise and sekiryu were embraced closer than a pair of exuberant teenagers in their titanic tussle to the tawara. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 47,138 Posted November 23, 2007 (edited) I have a comment:Kaiho did the same a few times at his prime. The crowd and I enjoyed as well as today. etc. I don't usually post annoying "I agree" posts, but this time, I feel obligated. I TOTALLY agree with you. Enough already with the henka nonsense. It's a part of Sumo. Deal with it. Worse things sportsmanship-wise are happening in sumo lately (totally unprotocolic behavior, losing on purpose to a beloved rikishi, murder..) , and henka is what irks you?? Edited November 23, 2007 by Kintamayama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bulsara 0 Posted November 23, 2007 Enough already with the henka nonsense. It's a part of Sumo. Deal with it. Worse things sportsmanship-wise are happening in sumo lately (totally unprotocolic behavior, losing on purpose to a beloved rikishi, murder..) , and henka is what irks you?? So if I understand correctly you enjoyed this bout? (Neener, neener...) I'm starting to think that I'm in a wrong place. I rest my case. No need to reply. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flohru 178 Posted November 23, 2007 Kyokutenho: (The crowd was all for Kaio) I suppose I could have beaten him if I tried [some tricks], but how could I do that under the circumstances. You know, as I was leaving, some spectators actually said "Thank you." I rest my case. The veterans just don't want to beat KaioU. "How could I do that under these circumstances"???? WTF??? This is blatanlty admitting to"comraderie yaocho". And no response?? Disgusting. Though I agree with you about the veterans not willing to beat Kaio, I think Kyokutenho's "How could I do that under these circumstances"-comment was only meant regarding the "tried some tricks" thing. Kyokutenho probably knows by now that he can't win against Kaio the "normal" way looking at their head-to-head-record, but trying a henka against Kaio in that situation is really out of question... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 47,138 Posted November 23, 2007 (edited) Though I agree with you about the veterans not willing to beat Kaio, I think Kyokutenho's "How could I do that under these circumstances"-comment was only meant regarding the "tried some tricks" thing. Kyokutenho probably knows by now that he can't win against Kaio the "normal" way looking at their head-to-head-record, but trying a henka against Kaio in that situation is really out of question... I read the Japanese and the nuance was definitely different. I took it to mean "I couldn't bring myself to go all out against him the way he is", "all out" meaning doing all he can to win. I'm probably wrong, I sincerely hope. Edited November 23, 2007 by Kintamayama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kuroyama 715 Posted November 23, 2007 Although when you put it that way it could equally well have meant that with the crowd so vocally supportive of Kaio that Kyo couldn't make himself perform at his best. Such a thing could be somewhat intimidating, I would think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 47,138 Posted November 23, 2007 Although when you put it that way it could equally well have meant that with the crowd so vocally supportive of Kaio that Kyo couldn't make himself perform at his best. Such a thing could be somewhat intimidating, I would think. Well, others have had no problems dealing with it, but I guess it's individual. Still, I find it hard to believe that a veteran such as 10-ho would have any problems. If he would have needed another win for , say, a Sanyaku promotion, or something important for his own career, I'd venture a guess and say things would have been a tad different.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 6,370 Posted November 23, 2007 Still, I find it hard to believe that a veteran such as 10-ho would have any problems. If he would have needed another win for , say, a Sanyaku promotion, or something important for his own career, I'd venture a guess and say things would have been a tad different.. I'm surprised You're surprised. Hasn't it always been that way? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 47,138 Posted November 23, 2007 Still, I find it hard to believe that a veteran such as 10-ho would have any problems. If he would have needed another win for , say, a Sanyaku promotion, or something important for his own career, I'd venture a guess and say things would have been a tad different.. I'm surprised You're surprised. Hasn't it always been that way? Yes, but I never cease to be amazed at this phenomenon. I'm pretty sure without checking that major intai bouts more often than not involve youngsters.. It bothers me more, say, than a henka. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madorosumaru 7 Posted November 24, 2007 A later edition reported a somewhat different version of the Tenho quote. Kyokutenho: (With the arena resonating with "Kaio Calls") Why doesn't someone call out my name, too. On the way back on the hanamichi, some spectators even thanked me. Gimme a break! There wasn't any quote from the enraged Kokkai but there was one from Jumpin Jack Wakanoho. Wakanoho: (And not because it was Cockeye) I knew he would rush in at tachi-ai with his head too low so I decided to go for it. But, after I won, I couldn't look my opponent in the eye. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites