Nagoya 2025 discussion (results)

[Reonito 1,747]

4 hours ago, hakutorizakura said:

Well, he has truly arrived now 

Yup, alas. 

[Akinomaki 41,570]

On 17/07/2025 at 21:34, Heather82Cs said:

Nobody commenting on his co-leader at 5 wins, Ichy? This leaderboard truly is... something else. 

I keep commenting on him, without naming him

On 17/07/2025 at 12:24, Akinomaki said:

On 16/07/2025 at 17:14, Akinomaki said:

On 16/07/2025 at 14:41, dingo said:

Mitakeumi and Tamawashi leading the yusho arasoi!? Jeez, call it Nutty Nagoya or something. At least Kirishima doesn't look out of place there

And there's that one and only guy nobody knows who he is, at 4YMM now

He who can't be named is still in the lead. His twin has one, now it's his time to yusho 

Still in the lead, now the first to get kachi-koshi in makuuchi this basho - kachi-koshi interview no.1 - tachi-mochi for Onosato made him nervous, but without negative effect on his sumo

[Akinomaki 41,570]

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On 12/07/2025 at 23:49, Akinomaki said:

my demand for the yusho

On 01/07/2025 at 11:12, Akinomaki said:

I want Aonishiki to get double kinboshi, yusho and triple sansho next basho as compensation for being rank robbed 

runner-upout Hoshoryu - Onosato will be back to his real self, but on yokozuna level, so not 9-6, but 11-4. Kirishima and Wakatakakage double digits and getting into gear for ozeki return/promotion, Daieisho no return and drop like the 2 komusubi. Aonishiki and Onokatsu heading for sanyaku promotion.

Kotoeiho makekoshi (injured elbow), Kusano sansho

only 2 more losses for Onosato to fulfil my prediction, he's at the right pace now. I won't give up on Aonishiki for yusho yet

[MrGrumpyGills 171]

If Kotozakura keeps this up, he'll be kadoban next basho...

Loving the leaderboard so far, this is shaping up to be really interesting :)

[lackmaker 454]

On 19/07/2025 at 16:31, Kintamayama said:

Not a single win against an opponent with a winning record except Abi whom he dominates, both losses to "real" competitors who are both 5-2. I demand to see how he does against the Sekiwake and guys who are doing well this basho. not to mention Oonosato. I'd settle for a 9-6 now.

Guess he'd settle for 9-6 now.

[lackmaker 454]

When Onosato can drive Takayasu back like that why would he ever think of going into reverse early in a bout?

[Tigerboy1966 1,615]

2 hours ago, lackmaker said:

When Onosato can drive Takayasu back like that why would he ever think of going into reverse early in a bout?

When an opponent comes in hard, fast and low the "learned reflex" may well be to take a step or two back and go for a slap down.

[lackmaker 454]

I agree, but thats also not really yokozuna sumo.

Generally its still a good thing to have in your arsenal.

[hakutorizakura 685]

That Hakuoho hairstyle is not something you see everyday in a basho 

And Chiyosoma, come on dude... People forgot to congratulate him on his birthday yesterday.

[dingo 1,454]

1 hour ago, lackmaker said:

I agree, but thats also not really yokozuna sumo.

Generally its still a good thing to have in your arsenal.

Just like his first loss, rookie mistake by a rookie yokozuna. If he does that again against Hakuoho when they meet next time then I'd be concerned. 

[Kintamayama 46,753]

6 hours ago, lackmaker said:

When Onosato can drive Takayasu back like that why would he ever think of going into reverse early in a bout?

Because it worked last basho and Hakuouhou is a barreler. 

[Benihana 1,959]

Aonishiki is a killer. A determined, cold blooded, ruthless killer. He will return to Nagoya as Ozeki. Please stay healthy, pleeeeease.

[Bunbukuchagama 922]

49 minutes ago, Kintamayama said:

Because it worked last basho and Hakuouhou is a barreler. 

Somebody has to tell him that a sumo bout doesn't have to be decided within the first 3 seconds. 

[Gospodin 260]

2 hours ago, dingo said:

Just like his first loss, rookie mistake by a rookie yokozuna. If he does that again against Hakuoho when they meet next time then I'd be concerned. 

I second that. At some point, Hakuoho wasn´t that low. He managed to deny Oonosato his grip, and while the Yokozuna continued trying for one, he found himself being guided out backwards.

[Octofuji 414]

6 hours ago, Tigerboy1966 said:

When an opponent comes in hard, fast and low the "learned reflex" may well be to take a step or two back and go for a slap down.

I was wondering about this seeing Ura today. From a seemingly dominant position at the edge, he pulled himself all the way across the dohyo and out.

There is likely a strong intuitive association between pulling and easy wins requiring little effort, and between pushing and very hard-fought, expensive wins.

This must be hard to overcome, regardless of what the wrestler may believe logically.

[Octofuji 414]

Kinbozan is the only Makuuchi wrestler (apart from the absent Daieisho) with a 2-0 record against Aonishiki. Maybe an upset tomorrow?

[dingo 1,454]

2 hours ago, Bunbukuchagama said:

Somebody has to tell him that a sumo bout doesn't have to be decided within the first 3 seconds. 

But it's much easier if it does. Can't underestimate the attraction of a quick and easy bout in a 15-day tournament. 

[Bunbukuchagama 922]

Just now, dingo said:

But it's much easier if it does. Can't underestimate the attraction of a quick and easy bout in a 15-day tournament. 

He already has it "quick and easy" most of the time. 

[Reonito 1,747]

27 minutes ago, Octofuji said:

Kinbozan is the only Makuuchi wrestler (apart from the absent Daieisho) with a 2-0 record against Aonishiki. Maybe an upset tomorrow?

He's got the reach to keep Aonishiki away from his belt; let's see if the young man has figured out a counter.

[Bunbukuchagama 922]

Just now, Reonito said:

He's got the reach to keep Aonishiki away from his belt; let's see if the young man has figured out a counter.

Both their bouts were identical: Kinbozer just blasted him out right off the bat. Just like Onosato did.

[dingo 1,454]

3 minutes ago, Bunbukuchagama said:

He already has it "quick and easy" most of the time. 

Exactly, so if he has the choice then why would he go for a long and exhausting bout? In the end it's a rookie mistake. 

[Bunbukuchagama 922]

Just now, dingo said:

Exactly, so if he has the choice then why would he go for a long and exhausting bout? In the end it's a rookie mistake. 

Because it is less risky? A stepback pulldown is basically a dice throw - you win or you lose, no chance of recovery.

It's not like he is Takakeisho who only had 3 seconds worth of juice in the tank.

[Reonito 1,747]

16 minutes ago, Bunbukuchagama said:

Both their bouts were identical: Kinbozer just blasted him out right off the bat. Just like Onosato did.

Yeah, exactly, he needs to get inside or move laterally; let's see if he can figure out how to find an opening before he's saying hello to the third row.

[dingo 1,454]

45 minutes ago, Bunbukuchagama said:

Because it is less risky? A stepback pulldown is basically a dice throw - you win or you lose, no chance of recovery.

It's not like he is Takakeisho who only had 3 seconds worth of juice in the tank.

As I said, Onosato made a rookie mistake. 

[Bunbukuchagama 922]

1 hour ago, Reonito said:

Yeah, exactly, he needs to get inside or move laterally; let's see if he can figure out how to find an opening before he's saying hello to the third row.

Takayasu has shown the way to handle it: he's just stepped to the side. 

Shouldn't be too much of a high-level maneuver for such a celebrated technician, should it?