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Paramedics to be available at honbasho

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https://www.jiji.com/jc/article?k=2024022400436&g=spo
https://www.sanspo.com/article/20240225-P6QCUA5C7BOQRJUYXOQKEWALRE/
https://www.nikkansports.com/battle/sumo/news/202402260000187.html

The news made its way around the usual places slowly for some reason (there was more than a full day between the Jiji and Nikkan articles, with Sanspo posting halfway in between), but it will be a welcome one: In order to improve the quality of care in cases of rikishi injury, the Kyokai is planning to station professional emergency medical personnel near the dohyo. It appears that their presence will start as soon as the upcoming Haru tournament if all goes well with the implementation.

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Maezumo accident for the new paramedic (with red bip vest) to act, waiting at the dohyo on the edge of the press table tamariseki o

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12 hours ago, Yubinhaad said:

I think Higohikari should be gently encouraged to retire, and if he's somehow critical to the running of Kise-beya then hire him as a civilian afterwards. It's getting painful to watch, I'd rather not have to cover my eyes every time he "fights" in case he gets seriously hurt. His last bout in November saw him leave on a stretcher, this time in maezumo it was the wheelchair.

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A slight, not serious concussion this time, last time he left on a stretcher

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The one paramedic apparently won't mount the dohyo unless called. He came after Tsurugisho was nearly moved to  the wheelchair by oyakata

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I presume this is limited to male paramedic personnel, at least for the time being, just in case they are required to step on the dohyo.

The fact they'd rather roll someone in obvious difficulties onto a wheelchair before calling any specialists isn't really the best sign, but baby steps.

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30 minutes ago, Koorifuu said:

The fact they'd rather roll someone in obvious difficulties onto a wheelchair before calling any specialists isn't really the best sign, but baby steps.

To be fair, an average Japanese paramedic is probably one third of Tsurugisho's weight.

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1 hour ago, Koorifuu said:

The fact they'd rather roll someone in obvious difficulties onto a wheelchair before calling any specialists isn't really the best sign, but baby steps.

It was an aggravation of an existing knee injury. It's not as if there was any danger of worsening a spinal injury. 

I suspect rolling was a lot easier on Tsurugisho than having his 200kg hefted off the dohyo.

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1 hour ago, RabidJohn said:

It was an aggravation of an existing knee injury. It's not as if there was any danger of worsening a spinal injury. 

I suspect rolling was a lot easier on Tsurugisho than having his 200kg hefted off the dohyo.

Another check mark on the "it's good that the dohyo is raised" team.

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8 hours ago, RabidJohn said:

It was an aggravation of an existing knee injury. It's not as if there was any danger of worsening a spinal injury. 

I suspect rolling was a lot easier on Tsurugisho than having his 200kg hefted off the dohyo.

I'll suggest letting the experts decide whether there's any risk of aggravation through inadequate post-trauma care, and that's the lads in red bibs. Certainly not a bunch of elderly ex-scrappers, and certainly not any of us!

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9 hours ago, Koorifuu said:

... and certainly not any of us!

That's an incorrect assumption. I was a deputy in a UK coal mine, and part of my job description was first responder to incidents. As we could be several miles from the surface and proper medical care, we had to go way beyond basic first aid. For example, we could administer pethedine (morphine substitute) where appropriate. Nowadays we'd be called paramedics.

If anything gave me cause for concern yesterday it was the lack of attention given to Kinbozan, who obviously smacked the back of his head hard when he fell. That sort of thing requires immediate care and several hours of observation, IMO.

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On 14/03/2024 at 02:55, Koorifuu said:

 and certainly not any of us!

What if one of us had knowledge in the field?

Weight is a secondary factor when treating an injury. They should find a solution to move them from the doyo when they are injured. It's not like it's 2024... First we treat the pain if it is unbearable. Secondly, we immobilize the injured limb and ESPECIALLY we do not move it unnecessarily/ Rolling Tsurugisho in this way is excruciating to see!

As said above for Kinbozan, no one came to his side to see what happened! And it was at this moment that the medical presence was important and had to be rapid! Head/neck/back injuries should be taken very seriously!

In short... nothing new unfortunately...

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On 13/03/2024 at 06:28, Akinomaki said:

Maezumo accident for the new paramedic (with red bip vest) to act, waiting at the dohyo on the edge of the press table tamariseki o

On 12/03/2024 at 18:14, Yubinhaad said:

I think Higohikari should be gently encouraged to retire, and if he's somehow critical to the running of Kise-beya then hire him as a civilian afterwards. It's getting painful to watch, I'd rather not have to cover my eyes every time he "fights" in case he gets seriously hurt. His last bout in November saw him leave on a stretcher, this time in maezumo it was the wheelchair.

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A slight, not serious concussion this time, last time he left on a stretcher

There are 5 paramedics on duty this basho and the comment by Haru basho team member Takasaki (Kinkaiyama) looks like if more than one at a time: "The paramedic checked the level of consciousness and state of the injury by asking and the experts acted together smoothly" - later on behind the scene maybe, but that rather sounds like wishful thinking

Higohikari in Kyushu

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