Kotooshu considering retirement

[Asameshimae 220]

Confused Kokkai for Kotooshu? That is just plain lazy. Had never heard of how untrustworthy the Bulgarian press is. Interesting.

[krindel 688]

Confused Kokkai for Kotooshu? That is just plain lazy. Had never heard of how untrustworthy the Bulgarian press is. Interesting.

Wait till some paper somewhere announces Tokitenku's promotion to Yokozuna :-P .

[Washuyama 662]

Confused Kokkai for Kotooshu? That is just plain lazy. Had never heard of how untrustworthy the Bulgarian press is. Interesting.

Wait till some paper somewhere announces Tokitenku's promotion to Yokozuna :-P .

It would have to start with an "H"---Hokutoriki..

[Yubinhaad 11,969]

Haven't you heard? There's a massive party on the streets of Sofia, celebrating the promotion of 70th Yokozuna Homarefuji...

[Kintamayama 47,226]

From the injury mentioned (intai caused by damaged right knee) apparently they were talking about Kokkai and mistook Kotooshu for him.

Total crap. I'll tell you what happened. Osh was in a bad mood and depressed after yet another injury and ranted 'off the record' with a Bulgarian journalist friend along the lines of "Screw this, I'm quitting " etc.. Said friend went and told someone else and it snowballed, catching Osh off guard. "Are you out of your mind?? FIX IT!!" he told his journalist friend. "Let's say it was a mix up- lucky that Kokkai just retired.." was the solution.

Sounds wacky? I'll bet you it's much closer to the truth than you think..

Edited September 30, 2012 by Kintamayama

[Asashosakari 20,250]

Haven't you heard? There's a massive party on the streets of Sofia, celebrating the promotion of 70th Yokozuna Homarefuji...

Dang, my collegiate thread's out of date.

Anyway, it's all those geography-themed shikonae - Baruto, Kokkai, Oshu, who can possibly keep them straight all the time?

Edited September 29, 2012 by Asashosakari

[Skotkotaikai 2]

From the injury mentioned (intai caused by damaged right knee) apparently they were talking about Kokkai and mistook Kotooshu for him.

Total crap. I'll tell you what happened. Osh was in a bad mood and depressed after yet again another injury and ranted off the record with a Bulgarian journalist friend along the lines of "Screw this, I'm quitting " etc.. Said friend went and told someone else and it snowballed, catching Osh off guard. "Are you out of your mind?? FIX IT!!" he told his journalist friend. "Let's say it was a mix up-lucky Kokkai just retired.." was the solution.

Sounds wacky? I'll bet you it's much closer to the truth than you think..

There is the possibility that someone passed a rumor to the journalists. For example someone who doesn't like Kotooshu.

As for motives to do such a thing... Well, there are people in Bulgaria who would do such a thing simply because of envy or malice.

There is a saying in Bulgaria which states: "It isn't important that I am well, it is important that my neighbour is NOT well"

Edited September 29, 2012 by Skotkotaikai

[krindel 688]

From the injury mentioned (intai caused by damaged right knee) apparently they were talking about Kokkai and mistook Kotooshu for him.

Total crap. I'll tell you what happened. Osh was in a bad mood and depressed after yet again another injury and ranted off the record with a Bulgarian journalist friend along the lines of "Screw this, I'm quitting " etc.. Said friend went and told someone else and it snowballed, catching Osh off guard. "Are you out of your mind?? FIX IT!!" he told his journalist friend. "Let's say it was a mix up-lucky Kokkai just retired.." was the solution.

Sounds wacky? I'll bet you it's much closer to the truth than you think..

There is the possibility that someone passed a rumor to the journalists. For example someone who doesn't like Kotooshu.

As for motives to do such a thing... Well, there are people in Bulgaria who would do such a thing simply because of envy or malice.

There is a saying in Bulgaria which states: "It isn't important that I am well, it is important that my neighbour is NOT well"

Well, I don't know how respectable the media outlets that were mentioned are overall... However, I know that every journalist who hears some information, can make an educated guess as to how trustworthy the person saying it is. The lowest ranking tokoyama of Sadogatake-beya is a more trustworthy source than some person in Bulgaria who is not known to be genuinely close to Kotooshu, and a journalist should be able to tell the difference...

Of course, if the media outlets making the claim are now to be yellow press rumor mills, then they don't even need an actual rumor, they can create one out of thin air :-)

[botev1921 33]

The NATIONAL television in Bulgaria is reaching new lows with the information about Kaloyan. It seems they never really checked any source and just reported what the biggest news agency reported. The news system here works like this - there is a news agency, which is supposed to check, double check and triple check information...which they, eh, don't...and everybody just quotes them.

[Asameshimae 220]

Total crap "Let's say it was a mix up-lucky Kokkai just retired.." was the solution.

Sounds wacky? I'll bet you it's much closer to the truth than you think..

You know, you are probably right. The Bulgarian press never strayed from saying "he was THINKING of retiring." It would be pretty hard to confuse that with a wrestler who had unequivocally retired.

Regardless, with the strong statements he has made to the contrary, it looks like he will be back for sure - let's hope we see some fire from sumo's longest serving active Ozeki.

[Kintamayama 47,226]

It finally hits the Japanese press as well. "My mother called me and told me about it. I was totally surprised. The information given there was vague. 'Right knee injury is the cause' was what they said. That's Kokkai isn't it??." said Kotooushuu himself. Kotooushuu injured his right shoulder during last basho and is back in training after a full recovery. "It has become much better. I plan to join the jungyo," he summed.

I am now convinced that my version is very close to the truth.

[Asameshimae 220]

It finally hits the Japanese press as well. "My mother called me and told me about it. I was totally surprised. The information given there was vague. 'Right knee injury is the cause' was what they said. That's Kokkai isn't it??." said Kotooushuu himself. Kotooushuu injured his right shoulder during last basho and is back in training after a full recovery. "It has become much better. I plan to join the jungyo," he summed.

I am now convinced that my version is very close to the truth.

Yes, I went in search of new in Japanese yesterday and found the same blurb you copied above and decided your theory was probably right.

[salle 11]

Well, I don't know how respectable the media outlets that were mentioned are overall... However, I know that every journalist who hears some information, can make an educated guess as to how trustworthy the person saying it is. The lowest ranking tokoyama of Sadogatake-beya is a more trustworthy source than some person in Bulgaria who is not known to be genuinely close to Kotooshu, and a journalist should be able to tell the difference...

Perhaps true somewhere else, but here in Bulgaria it is not how sports press works. Someone publishes something and everybody else just copy/pastes it without even thinking about the credibility of the sources.

Of course, if the media outlets making the claim are now to be yellow press rumor mills, then they don't even need an actual rumor, they can create one out of thin air :-)

That's perfect description of Bulgarian sports press :)

[Hageouryu 18]

Regardless of what actually happened, it's encouraging to read on Kotooshu's own blog that he was already in damage-limitation mode by 27 September - which appears to predate some of the cut-and-paste articles.

Thank you to Bulgarian-based forum members above for your contributions and opinions. It's always interesting to read how events are reported "locally".