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Sadly Kisenosato will remain in records as the worst-performing Yokozuna in the modern era history :( He used to be strong Ozeki. It is sad to see his career ending this way.
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2 kinboshi and no sansho feels very unfair. The rules are rules I guess ...
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It is not clear what exactly you are asking. "Promoted without having won a single yusho ever in his career" or "Promoted without having won a single yusho during his so called Yokozuna run". In both cases however the answer is the promotion of Futahaguro in 1986 after 2 consecutive jun-yusho and no single Makuuchi yusho in his entire career. In fact he had only two yusho - one in Jonokuchi and one in Juryo. Here is a query which might help. http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Query.aspx?show_form=0&columns=4&n_basho=4&form1_oy=on&form2_rank=O&form2_jy=on&form3_rank=O&form3_jy=on&form4_rank=Y Perhaps it can be written better, but querying databases without typing raw SQL is not among my strengths.
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According to current Japanese law: Yes! (Dunno about Bulgaria, but wouldn't matter here anyways). Bulgarian law allows double citizenship, but that indeed does not matter when the other country doesn't allow it.
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According to Bulgarian news site (not citing any sources) Kotooshu applied for cessation of his Bulgarian citizenship. I can only interpret that as preparation for the role of oyakata very soon.
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I expected Osunaarashi to "heat" his wall somewhere in upper half of Maegashira, but I am now affraid he might drop back to Juryo and remain there for some more basho. It seems clear his problems are in mental department and I agree it is for his oyakata to fix them and do it rather fast.
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The word Impatient came to my mind while watching his first two makuuchi bouts.
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So Opera can not be 'high art'? If we accept that definition of yours some of the followig must be true too: 1) A composer who writes operas is not high artist OR 2) 'high art' applies to certain piece or pieces only, but not to the complete works of a composer. If 1) was true then what do we say about your list of favorite composers? Beethoven, Haydn, Handel, Schubert, Mozart, Tchaikovsky, Wagner, Schumann, Scriabin, Rachmaninov did wrote operas. Should we exclude them from the 'high art' list on the grounds that Opera can not be 'high art'? The 2) is quite reasonable, but it beats all your reasoning so far for it is the piece that is 'high art' not the composer (implying all his works are). For example what remains from Wagner's works if we take his operas out the equation? There are plenty of artists in all forms of art not only music who are known for single or few works recognized as exrtemely 'high' even though the rest of their work is either nothing special or non-existent. With 2) I fully agree by the way, but if you do agree too you have to admit that otherwise mediocre composer who has single great piece must be put next to Beethoven who composed only 'high art' and nothing else .oO(.. wait wait ... what about Fidelio?)
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I am still missing any rational definition of the term "high-art" you use. How do you measure technical vs artistic focus for example? How do you measure influence and breaking grounds? Regarding the soundtrack your argument is funny. ".. just that, background ..". You can say precisely the same for any opera. The opera music is just backround for the story plot isn't it? Besides this particular soundtrack I mentioned outlived the movie and is one of the rare such examples when the entire soundtrack is an independent music piece . You better listen to it first. I don't expect you to like it or regard it "high", but do give it a try. Then your coment about Freddie Mercury proves all I wanted to prove. You are talking about your preferences only which is indeed perfectly fine. We all have our own opinion and point of view regarding artists. Some we like, some we don't. That's normal. Placing tags on them saying this one is high, the other isn't is (sorry to say this) pretentious nonsense. As for musicians from 20th century there are plenty of names which are arguably composers, but when it comes to groundbreaking, influence or both there is little doubt about that. Just to name few more random names from my playlists: Dead Can Dance; Chick Corea; Bobby McFerrin
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I enjoy all of them at different level except for Scryabin and almost all of Wagner. I also enjoy a lot some not so well known to the modern public old composers like Telemann and Gesualdo for example. I agree some old composers are great, but I most certainly disgree all of the 20th century composers belong to lesser art category. Next you say "entertaimnent" as if it implies lesser quality, but you seem to forget most of classic and pre-classic music was entertainment music too and also most of it was highly commercial, written for profit or some other benefit. "Entertainment" does not contradict "quality" which you seem to imply. Correct me if I am wrong. Also let's not forget there were plenty of mediocre composers in the past most of them now forgotten and also lot of not so great pieces written by some great composers. At the other hand there are plenty of high qualtiy music examples from late 20th century (I'm yet to hear something from 21th which I would regard as such). Here are some random examples for which I would like to hear why they don't deserve your "high art" tag. * Emmerson Lake and Palmer - "Works volume 1" album. Why it is not "high art"? * 1492 soundtrack by Vangelis - Why it is not "high art"? * "Barcelona" by Freddie Mercury and Montserrat Caballé - Why it is not "high art"?
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It would be ugly if they do it. Promotion without single makuuchi yusho should never happen.
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In theory yes, but in practice there is no way to achieve that. In very best case he will make it to kettei-sen, meet Hakuho there and lose with dignity. Even that is more a dream than reality.
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Why would he? I know there are conspiracy theories, but how come you put Kotooshu and Harumafuji together into that? Apart from the fact that mongolians use our aplhabet I am not aware of any other connection between them and us. Perhaps common alphabet is enough to build consipracy theory around it :-) Kotooshu said he feels healthy and he looks healthy for first basho in quite some time. Considering his age and past injuries where any next injury can force imminent intai I could imagine the opposite - strong focus and attempt to go as far as possible this week. We will see tomorrow.
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Short memory? The standards were very high well before Asashoryu and Hakuho. Within last 20 years there was only one "weak" yokozuna - Wakanohana. Even Musashimaru who got the tsuna very late in his career was a beast when healthy and what about Akebono and Takanohana who always had very strong opposition during their prime unlike mongolian yokozunas?
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Osunaarashi and Shinto Rituals (split from various topics)
salle replied to dingo's topic in Ozumo Discussions
I don't want to play devlis advocate, but since nobody is asking that question here we go: Is Shinto a religion? More detailed version: What makes you believe a follower of a religion X would consider Shinto as another religion and thus imposing problems with his X religion? Even more detailed: What makes you believe that Islam professed by Osunaarashi considers Shinto as a religion and Shinto rituals as religious ones and not just secular gestures?