Jaak 7 Posted February 6, 2011 How do the yaocho and gambling scandals affect amasumo? What is the schedule for the 4 great amasumo contests (that entitle winners to makushita tsukedashi)? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ilovesumo 12 Posted February 6, 2011 In Japan there are less and less kids willing to do Sumo for years, that won't change. Ozumo and Amasumo are 2 pairs of shoes. Amasumo itself goes on the amateur-way (most never wanted to go pro) - so they train on and have their national / international meetings. Don't see em affected by the scandals - unless the Kokugokan will be sold or so, the events should be on like non-sumo events there. (In a state of confusion...) Maybe there won't be tsukedashi anymore. Dunno. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaak 7 Posted February 6, 2011 Could the cancelling of Haru-basho and sponsors increase the popularity of amateur tournaments? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kenzo 5 Posted February 6, 2011 How do the yaocho and gambling scandals affect amasumo? If you can get any footage of the World Games 2005 mens open weight final Ichihara v Shimoyda you may find it interesting viewing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaak 7 Posted February 6, 2011 How? Fans and sponsors who cannot attend March ozumo tournament flocking to amasumo ones? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ilovesumo 12 Posted February 6, 2011 How? Fans and sponsors who cannot attend March ozumo tournament flocking to amasumo ones? Do you think amasumo is more entertaining to Japanese people? Very few spectators (who are no relatives of the boys) in Japan visit such events. The world cup is a bit more popular, but the joy of watching Sumo is sitting there, watch em throw salt, bow at each other etc. Amasumo is only the sportive aspect of the whole big deal Pro-Sumo is- like a light-version. If Sumo ever becomes olympic, than I guess amasumo will be much more popular. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yubinhaad 11,761 Posted February 15, 2011 Extract from a Mainichi article, 14th of February 2011: "The bout-rigging scandal that has rocked the professional sumo world -- resulting in the cancellation of the next grand tournament that had been set to take place in Osaka in March -- is also showing wide-reaching impact on the world of amateur sumo, with amateur sumo events being cancelled and student wrestlers questioning the wisdom of going pro." Full article: http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/sports/news...0na011000c.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnofuji 232 Posted February 16, 2011 I met with the Nittai Dai (Japan Sports Science Uni) sumo team last night. I asked if any were keen to join ozumo and they said Seiya Hashimoto is going give it a shot.He has probably had a life long ambition which you can't turn off simply because of yaocho or he may even have makushita tsukedashi? They seemed pretty unfazed by it all but I may ask them more about it tonight. Its mainly been their rivals at Nichidai that have turned out to be a bunch of parakeets. Kenzo I think this is the one you were talking about Its a bit too far to see exactly what we saw.We were standing right next to the dohyo on the press podium and we immediately knew something was a bit fishy when one of them was smiling during the bout and we know he rarely smiles. Still it was a good show. I might have close up footage at home. I don't think there is too much crossover with sumo fans at least from a spectators point of view with amasumo either. At my first SWC in 1997 I was expecting there to be a few rikishi hanging around the Kokugikan and taking an interest but when I thought about it- why would they come to work on their precious days off? Occasionally with the international tournaments, we might get a few rikishi visit because they have family or mates but it might be a different story with local amasumo. I don't think even Baruto showed up to see his sister but he may have been away and they have all been in Osaka since shin sumo (womens) started . In amasumo the action is often far more exciting when you have competitors from diverse styles and backgrounds when you compare it to some of the boring conservative techniques used during a basho. Nothing compares to the flamboyance and pageantry of professional Ozumo as Irubsumo says. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kenzo 5 Posted February 16, 2011 Well Johnofuji, I would say it looked from where we were standing it looked more than fishy,still the crowd were entertained.With regard to Rikishi coming to the SWC' s at the KK in 96,97 ,98 I do remember seeing one Argentinina reguarly and a quite well know Mongolian at the SWC''s checking out their countrymen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,669 Posted February 16, 2011 I don't think it's a big secret that, back when they were more dominant than they've been in recent years, the younger Nichidai rikishi often weren't, well, overly motivated when their opponent was a 4th year schoolmate who was gunning for the tsukedashi qualification. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnofuji 232 Posted February 17, 2011 gunning for the tsukedashi qualification. I'd like to see that but Gunning's a bit old for that these days. Thanks.That makes a lot of sense about the Nichidai boys who seem to be born with silver chop sticks in their mouths.Would it be fair to say there is a little bit of parallel to the depth and strength of the old Futagoyama beya which eventually fizzled? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
