Kintamayama 47,188 Posted March 30, 2004 (edited) I have a few questions regarding the shin-deshi. There were 77 of them. Now I read that only 24 will be ranked on the next Banzuke, with their names stated etc.. What happens to the other 53? They wait for next time? I gather the 24 were the ones with the best Mae-zumo records. So the others are banzuke-gai? Or am I totally wrong and they will all be ranked in May, although that seems wrong to me as well.. Edited March 30, 2004 by Kintamayama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doitsuyama 1,259 Posted March 30, 2004 Maybe those 24 comprised the first batch? You know that for Haru the shin-deshi passing mae-zumō are put in batches taking turns in the shin-deshi presentation, and 24 sounds like the perfect number for a 4x6-rectangle of shin-deshi for one batch. I too don't think only 24 came through... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 47,188 Posted March 30, 2004 Maybe those 24 comprised the first batch? You know that for Haru the shin-deshi passing mae-zumō are put in batches taking turns in the shin-deshi presentation, and 24 sounds like the perfect number for a 4x6-rectangle of shin-deshi for one batch. I too don't think only 24 came through... OK. that's what I initially thought too, except there was only one batch reported so far, so it started me thinking.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sasanishiki 57 Posted March 30, 2004 Just a hypothetical situation. To get into mae-zumo wouldn't the shin-deshi have to reached the height and weight guidelines for entering the ranks in sumo? Being recruited as shin-deshi does not require meeting these (as far as I am aware), only the potential to be big enough and heavy enough in the future. Perhaps the remaining 53 were too light at this stage? Please correct me if I have my understanding of the shin-deshi recruitment and maezumo admittance wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yubiquitoyama 4 Posted March 30, 2004 Just a hypothetical situation. To get into mae-zumo wouldn't the shin-deshi have to reached the height and weight guidelines for entering the ranks in sumo? Yes, they would have to meet the requirements before going into mae-zumo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mojo Posted March 30, 2004 Just a hypothetical situation. To get into mae-zumo wouldn't the shin-deshi have to reached the height and weight guidelines for entering the ranks in sumo? Yes, they would have to meet the requirements before going into mae-zumo. What are the height and weight requirements? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Exil 301 Posted March 30, 2004 What are the height and weight requirements? 173 cm and 75 kg, IIRC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mojo Posted March 30, 2004 What are the height and weight requirements? 173 cm and 75 kg, IIRC. What is 173 cm in feet and inches? (Laughing...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Exil 301 Posted March 30, 2004 (edited) What is 173 cm in feet and inches? Edited March 30, 2004 by Exil Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yubiquitoyama 4 Posted March 31, 2004 (edited) What is 173 cm in feet and inches? :-) About 5'8", I think. Unit conversions are confusing... :-) Edit: Make that 5'8", not 5'7"... :-P The absolute lower limit is 167 cm = 5 feet, 5 and 3/4 inches. New Juryo Toyonoshima was accepted on these secondary requirements, since he's only 169 cm = 5`6 1/2". Edited March 31, 2004 by Yubiquitoyama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yoavoshimaru 0 Posted March 31, 2004 I frequently use this awesome online unit (and other) conversion site. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Takanobaka 0 Posted April 7, 2004 I know that a maezumo needs to win 3 bouts over the course of three basho before they can become ranked. Hypothetically, those that made it dominated so heavily that there were very few who reached three wins to make it onto the Banzuke. I'm not sure how many bouts the Maezumo have, so maybe someone can clarify more on that. Also, a few of them retired, and it's likely that about a dozen of them got injured... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yubiquitoyama 4 Posted April 7, 2004 (edited) I know that a maezumo needs to win 3 bouts over the course of three basho before they can become ranked. Hypothetically, those that made it dominated so heavily that there were very few who reached three wins to make it onto the Banzuke. I'm not sure how many bouts the Maezumo have, so maybe someone can clarify more on that. Also, a few of them retired, and it's likely that about a dozen of them got injured... As far as I understand, there is no such rule anymore, although a rikishi reaching three wins doesn Edited April 7, 2004 by Yubiquitoyama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 20,225 Posted April 7, 2004 As far as I understand, there is no such rule anymore, although a rikishi reaching three wins doesn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites