Gyoji arrested for assault

[Kintamayama 47,358]

Makushita Gyoji Kimura Rinnosuke (32, Dewanoumi Beya) was brought in for questioning after he allegedly kicked his 3 year old son in the back for losing his (the gyoji's) socks, causing him minor injury. This was reported to have happened on the afternoon of February 27th. His wife had complained to the police in the past of his "violent behavior towards his child(ren)." "We are looking into the matter", said the Kyokai.

Found his picture. Hmm..

Edited March 29, 2010 by Kintamayama

[Kintamayama 47,358]

"It's extremely regrettable.. Just recently I started hearing rumors but since it's a domestic thing I didn't know any details. I'll have to see how the police will handle this matter, so I can't decide if to force him to retire or not," said Dewanoumi Oyakata.

[HenryK 38]

[nonsensical comment, edited]

Edited March 29, 2010 by HenryK

[Doitsuyama 1,262]

Sorry but who is this guy? I don't find him on the Banzuke

Well, you might find him on the real printed banzuke in the gyoji section... Sumo Reference sadly doesn't have detailed gyoji data which I would happily include if someone points me to a good Japanese reference with some history.

[Orion 431]

"It's extremely regrettable.. Just recently I started hearing rumors but since it's a domestic thing I didn't know any details. I'll have to see how the police will handle this matter, so I can't decide if to force him to retire or not," said Dewanoumi Oyakata.

I'm very upset about this, which is completely new to me. Professionally, which is the extent of my acquaintance, Rinnosuke has alwys been an excellent gyoji; for some time now he has been one of the best jonai-hoso (internal) announcers, and has been an excellent mentor to his junior Kimura Hideaki. But of course, in private life there may be a differenr level; let's wait this one's out.

FWIW, last night he was the MC at the Dewanoumi party and did a great job -- way beyond his previous

performances.

[Otokonoyama 2,735]

If it's true he has a history of violence toward his own child, and this latest allegation is confirmed, expelling him seems to be in order.

[Orion 431]

If it's true he has a history of violence toward his own child, and this latest allegation is confirmed, expelling him seems to be in order.

That's what some of the other gyojis are saying. Plus, I understand that he and his wife were introduced by a somewhat senior gyoji, so he's messed up all round.

Orion

[Kintamayama 47,358]

Last April, the wife called in a complaint that her husband slapped the boy across the face when the boy had trouble sleeping and annoyed the gyoji. Then, two months ago, she called in to complain about the same thing. When police arrived at their house, everything had settled down and no charges were pressed. This time, the wife decided to press charges. There were other instances in the past of alleged violence against other relatives that are being investigated as well, says the report.

[Kintamayama 47,358]

http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/national/ne...+All+Stories%29

[Kotoviki 16]

What a shock! Another gyoji had introduced us recently and he seems to be such a nice and gentle guy. And as Doreen says he is an excellent announcer.

You really never know people though in their private lives. This is such a shame.

[Sashohitowa 6]

Plus, I understand that he and his wife were introduced by a somewhat senior gyoji, so he's messed up all round.

I don't understand this one.... Why the circumstances around meeting his wife have to do anything with how seriously his actions are perceived?

[ilovesumo 12]

Plus, I understand that he and his wife were introduced by a somewhat senior gyoji, so he's messed up all round.

I don't understand this one.... Why the circumstances around meeting his wife have to do anything with how seriously his actions are perceived?

Means he brought shame to the guy who introduced his wife to him- without that, she might have found somebody more gentle.

[Orion 431]

Plus, I understand that he and his wife were introduced by a somewhat senior gyoji, so he's messed up all round.

I don't understand this one.... Why the circumstances around meeting his wife have to do anything with how seriously his actions are perceived?

Means he brought shame to the guy who introduced his wife to him- without that, she might have found somebody more gentle.

Exactly. You have to understand that in Japan, formally introducing people (for a job, or possible marriage), means that the introducer is responsible to some extent, and will be embarrassed if the person he or she introduced proves unacceptable.

Orion

[Otokonoyama 2,735]

A recent example from the sports world might illustrate what ilovesumo and Orion said - the Swedish golfer Jesper Parnevik who introduced Tiger Woods to his wife said he was sorry he helped bring the couple together in the first place.

[Orion 431]

A recent example from the sports world might illustrate what ilovesumo and Orion said - the Swedish golfer Jesper Parnevik who introduced Tiger Woods to his wife said he was sorry he helped bring the couple together in the first place.

And in Japan, the opposite also works. After more than 30 years, I still maintain good relations with the man who introduced me to the big-time (non-teaching) job that changed my life. And I still get messages from a younger foreign woman I mentored as she was trying to find her way in Japan. Connections are important -- but in Japan, they are institutionalised. [Off-topic now, but next week I have to deliver a large box of fancy cakes to one of the offices where I have bee employed for 30-plus years, because they have finally granted me semi-pro status, which means that I finally get my own computer and address.(Don't think of asking what the address is!)

[ilovesumo 12]

(Sign of approval...)

And the greatest thing of all about connections is- they are there for everybody, cause everybody once had help, so he or she helps youngsters as well.

Am grateful. For the sofa I was allowed to sleep on for 3 weeks back in 2006, for guidance of professionals, for the job I got over an other guy who just wanted to find his boss a replacement for himself....could go on for hours and hours. (Hugging...)

First thing I did, when I went back to Japan was visiting my old boss to bring a present. You have to and you want to. And if you got a youngster to guide, it's your reputation hanging on that person.

[Sashohitowa 6]

Plus, I understand that he and his wife were introduced by a somewhat senior gyoji, so he's messed up all round.

I don't understand this one.... Why the circumstances around meeting his wife have to do anything with how seriously his actions are perceived?

Means he brought shame to the guy who introduced his wife to him- without that, she might have found somebody more gentle.

Exactly. You have to understand that in Japan, formally introducing people (for a job, or possible marriage), means that the introducer is responsible to some extent, and will be embarrassed if the person he or she introduced proves unacceptable.

Orion

I consider myself to be a person that acknowledges that Japan is different than the western world in many aspects - sumo and not. But this somehow I do not understand.

I get the point that the people that knew him feel more embarrassed and indirectly affected by the situation (even that from the few recent posts it seems that when you introduce someone you automatically become like a godfather to that person...).

What I don't get it why this means he has messed up all around. If the senior gyoji didn't introduce him to his future wife, would the incident be less troublesome? Would then that senior gyoji feel less embarrassed?

[Kuroyama 715]

Plus, I understand that he and his wife were introduced by a somewhat senior gyoji, so he's messed up all round.

I don't understand this one.... Why the circumstances around meeting his wife have to do anything with how seriously his actions are perceived?

Means he brought shame to the guy who introduced his wife to him- without that, she might have found somebody more gentle.

Exactly. You have to understand that in Japan, formally introducing people (for a job, or possible marriage), means that the introducer is responsible to some extent, and will be embarrassed if the person he or she introduced proves unacceptable.

Orion

I consider myself to be a person that acknowledges that Japan is different than the western world in many aspects - sumo and not. But this somehow I do not understand.

I get the point that the people that knew him feel more embarrassed and indirectly affected by the situation (even that from the few recent posts it seems that when you introduce someone you automatically become like a godfather to that person...).

What I don't get it why this means he has messed up all around. If the senior gyoji didn't introduce him to his future wife, would the incident be less troublesome? Would then that senior gyoji feel less embarrassed?

Of course. It's all about social relationships. Because he made the introductions, that senior gyoji feels himself to be directly involved. No doubt others see it that way too.

[Kintamayama 47,358]

A petition signed by all the gyoji headed by the two top gyoji Kimura Shounosuke and Shikimori Inosuke calling for a 'lenient punishment' was handed over to Musashigawa rijicho on the 19th, it has been established today. "It's a domestic problem so there is a 'difficult' side to this but still, the gyojis wanted to convey their solidarity as colleagues I guess.." said Dewanoumi Oyakata.

[ilovesumo 12]

What do you guys think about that?

I dunno if that step is good...looks like "he is one of us and we must hold on together" - so the "outside world" can do us less harm...

[Sashohitowa 6]

What do you guys think about that?

I dunno if that step is good...looks like "he is one of us and we must hold on together" - so the "outside world" can do us less harm...

Probably they didn't introduce him around too much.

[Otokonoyama 2,735]

What do you guys think about that?

I dunno if that step is good...looks like "he is one of us and we must hold on together" - so the "outside world" can do us less harm...

I wonder what's best for the kid who was allegedly beaten on multiple occasions...that should probably be pretty high up on the list of things to take into consideration.

[Orion 431]

A petition signed by all the gyoji headed by the two top gyoji Kimura Shounosuke and Shikimori Inosuke calling for a 'lenient punishment' was handed over to Musashigawa rijicho on the 19th, it has been established today. "It's a domestic problem so there is a 'difficult' side to this but still, the gyojis wanted to convey their solidarity as colleagues I guess.." said Dewanoumi Oyakata.

My take on this (and it is only my own thinking) is that the gyojis are giving him one last chance -- and that they have made this very clear to him. My reasoning is that he joined sumo at 16 -- exactly half his life ago -- and has spent the last 16 years applying himself to learning the various skills of a gyoji, which do not readily transplant. He is a very good gyoji -- and at this stage he has nothing to offer a prospective employer outside the world of sumo. But obviously he has to find a solution to the very serious family problem -- and maybe having already been threatened with the loss of everything he has worked for, he will get his act together. If he can't, then the message is clear: nobody will lift a finger to help him again.

FWIW, Orion (Holiday feeling...)

[Kintamayama 47,358]

Sentence-Guilty - 1 year and 4 months, with a three year suspended sentence. The Kyokai convened and gave him a punishment of their own-he will miss the next two bashos. "It was a simple domestic affair, but after he was found guilty, we decided that a punishment was necessary", said Hanaregoma rijicho.

Edited October 21, 2010 by Kintamayama