Kintamayama 47,188 Posted January 4, 2004 Tochiazuma has started the New Year's keiko positively. At the Dewanoumi Ichimon keiko, he met the likes of Dejima and Tochinonada and went 17-3. "Everything was just as usual. My condition isn't bad at all", he said. He went to a temple to make a wish for the New Year. "My wish? To remain healthy and to be able to move my body well this coming year", he added. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fujisan 533 Posted January 4, 2004 The more I read how well a rikishi is doing in Keiko,the more I get convinced they aint gonna win the Yusho,they just never do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 47,188 Posted January 4, 2004 (edited) The more I read how well a rikishi is doing in Keiko,the more I get convinced they aint gonna win the Yusho,they just never do. ((buzzer))WRONG!! See Tochiazuma and his preparations before last Basho. He took the Yusho. Consequently, your "never" statement is wrong. Next!! Edited January 4, 2004 by Kintamayama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 20,225 Posted January 4, 2004 Asashoryu has also had successful keiko sessions which led to him winning the yusho afterwards. I don't recall anyone saying that his good keiko performance indicated that he was going to do badly in the basho. In the end, this is really apples and oranges. Several rikishi are bound to have decent performances in keiko before each basho, but obviously only one is going to win the yusho. It'll always look like most of them underperformed if one tries to draw a direct relation before keiko and basho performance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fujisan 533 Posted January 5, 2004 (edited) I wasnt saying that no rikishi who did good keiko has ever won a Yusho- Im saying no rikishi that I can remember being mentioned specifically on this forum for doing well in keiko as ever gone on to win the Yusho. Edited January 5, 2004 by Fujisan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Buckton 1 Posted January 5, 2004 Keep an eye on Tochiazuma's feet boys and girls - particularly the right one. Newspapers tell the 'released story' - the feet, the feet. ANR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 47,188 Posted January 5, 2004 I wasnt saying that no rikishi who did good keiko has ever won a Yusho-Im saying no rikishi that I can remember being mentioned specifically on this forum for doing well in keiko as ever gone on to win the Yusho. Well, Tochiazuma and Asashouryuu were very specifically mentioned as doing great keiko, Tochiazuma(mentioned at length by me) just before last Basho, and Asashouryuu before he took the yusho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naganoyama 6,028 Posted January 5, 2004 As with all competitive activities, much of the ability to win comes from the head. Good keiko is in the first instance about physical condition, but in the case where good physical condition helps to improve confidence, it will improve results too. A rikishi who is borderline MK-KK may just manage to get over the line by believing more in himself. Some rikishi will always be more confident than others. Asashoryu climbed the ranks by progressing forwards in a bulldozer fashion because he had a certainty in his head that he could do it. Wakanosato approached his ozeki promotion (do you say ozeki-dori?) in a tentative manner as if to say he wasn't really sure he was ready for it. Hence the difference in the outcomes. I understand where Fujisan is coming from. On the forum a particular rikishi may well be 'talked up' on the basis of his performance in keiko, probably on the basis of physical criteria. Unless his mind-sumo is in good condition, this may not translate to results in the dohyo when the basho begins. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fujisan 533 Posted January 5, 2004 Well I cant have been paying attention then but either way the results are the same. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
