Jakusotsu 6,392 Posted August 17, 2007 Slightly back to the original topic: am I the only one who finds the ladies in Robert Palmer's videos repulsive? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 20,243 Posted August 17, 2007 (edited) Swedish Finn speaking Swedish They're Finnish Swedes. Swedish Finns are Finns living in Sweden. (Yes, I know English is in a sense sloppy in this regard and turns things around.) I think your interpretation of the English language is wrong here. If somebody called him/herself a "German American" (more likely with a hyphen), I'd invariably assume they're a German who emigrated to the US or an American of German descent, not the other way around, and I'm pretty sure I'd be correct in 99% of cases. Edit: Actually, to extend that a bit, I'd say the sentence "Swedish Finns are Finns living in Sweden" makes no sense in the first place. Somebody merely living in a different country (for work purposes or whatever) without considering himself a true (long-term) emigrant just wouldn't use the "one nationality-other nationality" construction, in neither order. Finns living in Sweden are Finns living in Sweden, not Swedish Finns or Finnish Swedes. I suppose that's at least tangentially related to your argument that the people having Swedish as their first language within the borders of Finland don't consider themselves Finns, but I'll leave the implications of citizenship etc. to you to puzzle through... /grammar off Edited August 17, 2007 by Asashosakari Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 20,243 Posted August 17, 2007 (edited) Partly it is because the way you think is divided by those two languages. This can even lead to strict borders, like thinking generally in one language, but doing mathematical calculations in the other. So per definition bilingualism probably will exist, but because the mind (and its ways to deal and cope differently with given problems) there will be always some degree of distortion. The degree of distortion will probably be higher, the better you speak both languages.The question is if this can be called Edited August 17, 2007 by Asashosakari Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kotoseiya Yuichi 3 Posted August 18, 2007 Well, Norway was ruled by first the Danes and then the Swedes - what we speak is a modified Danish. Some hundred and fifty years ago, a linguist created what we call new norwegian, based on dialect, to create a language that could be an alternative to the standard bokm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shakuyaku 0 Posted August 18, 2007 Swedish Finn speaking Swedish They're Finnish Swedes. Swedish Finns are Finns living in Sweden. (Yes, I know English is in a sense sloppy in this regard and turns things around.) I think your interpretation of the English language is wrong here. If somebody called him/herself a "German American" (more likely with a hyphen), I'd invariably assume they're a German who emigrated to the US or an American of German descent, not the other way around, and I'm pretty sure I'd be correct in 99% of cases. That was my idea when using that way of phrasing it, as Asashosakari interpreted it. My knowledge of how these people are viewed in Finland is however a bit sketchy at best, so I won't argue the point further. My sexiest language? Hmm, I think my vote goes to Scots, I know, their official language is English, but whether you call it a dialect or not is much debated. I've never understood why French is supposed to be so sexy (I think they sound angry) and it's completely impossible to sound angry in Norweigan. And I don't understand the Danish spoken on the Northern Mainland, it's a mix with German, to which the country borders. Since I speak both language, I always feel like I'm tuning into the wrong language :-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shakuyaku 0 Posted August 18, 2007 I think my vote goes to Scots, I know, their official language is English, but whether you call it a dialect or not is much debated. No it's not! Where did you get that idea from?? Scots Gaelic is a from a completely different family of languages than English. I'm refering to SCOTS, not Gaelic, which my sister studies by the way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Otokonoyama 2,735 Posted August 23, 2007 (edited) Massively O/T for the topic at hand (but at least in the right sub-forum), Bill Murray got up to a bit of mischief in KY's beloved Sweden... Bill Murray was stopped by Stockholm police Sunday and tested for drunk driving after he was found at the wheel of a golf cart en route to his downtown hotel, police said Wednesday.Murray was brought to Norrmalm police station, in the north of the city, and given a blood test for alcohol after he refused to take a breath test, said station commander Jan-Olov Lundgren. "He said in the United States you don't have to do it (take a breath test)," Lundgren said. "He was very calm and friendly. No problem at all." Murray had been out with golfing friends who had played in the Scandinavian Masters tournament, Sweden's Expressen newspaper said. Lundgren said the American had been stopped while driving the golf cart from Cafe Opera, an upscale restaurant in the center of town, back to his hotel. A manager at Cafe Opera declined to comment. Yahoo! News Perhaps if a female officer had requested a breath sample in a sexy voice, he'd have gone along (Laughing...) Edited August 23, 2007 by Otokonoyama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sasanishiki 57 Posted August 27, 2007 Perhaps if a female officer had requested a breath sample in a sexy voice, he'd have gone along (Nodding yes...) "Lip my stockings!! Oh, yes, please lip them!" "Oh Mr. Harris! Don't touch me! Mr. Bob Harris! Just lip my stocking!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
