Doitsuyama 1,259 Posted March 10, 2003 Yokozuna Asashoryu won against Takanonami without much problem. Musoyama was the only Ozeki to lose today, he is already trailing 0-2 after his loss to Kyokutenho. Sekiwake Wakanosato ended the win streak of Tochinonada at 12. Wakanosato looked strong today. Sekiwake Kotomitsuki lost in one of the more beautiful bouts to Shimotori with kotenage. Kotenage was the only slightly unusual kimarite on this day in Juryo and Makuuchi which let me recollect that I forgot to mention in my lower division posting the nimaigeri in Jonidan, a really rare kimarite. The two shin-Makuuchi rikishi Asasekiryu and Takekaze still have to wait for the first Makuuchi shiroboshi as both lost today. -- Doitsuyama [pre] Day 2 Juryo J12e Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fujisan 533 Posted March 10, 2003 Looks like Asa's picking up where he left off,doesnt it but its still early days. Of the Ozekis,my yusho pick Chiyotaikai is the only one 2-0 dont say I didnt tell you so. Musoyama is once again starting badly,just what is it with him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QttP 0 Posted March 10, 2003 Looks like Asa's picking up where he left off,doesnt it but its still early days.Of the Ozekis,my yusho pick Chiyotaikai is the only one 2-0 dont say I didnt tell you so. Musoyama is once again starting badly,just what is it with him. Yes, it's still early to say anything. Somehow, in the last two tournaments Asashoryu has convinced many of his own invincibility. Like, every time you say: today he's gonna lose, he's finally gonna lose, how can anyone win all the time, and such - and yet he wins and wins. Wins against all the tough opponents. Naturally, he's the number one yusho pick by far. Chiyotaikai's losses to Takanowaka and Hokutoriki last basho, his bad pre-basho training sessions, where he lost to both Shoryu and Sekiryu and his somewhat unconvincing start of the current basho don't really add confidence to his fans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yoavoshimaru 0 Posted March 10, 2003 his somewhat unconvincing start of the current basho I wouldn't call 2-0 unconvincing, but that's a personal judgement :-) I am proven somewhat wrong on Shimotori, with a nice win on day 2 against a sekiwake. And I'm regretting my choice of Asasekiryu on some games: 0-2 :-@ :-P (Huh?) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Manekineko 200 Posted March 10, 2003 Yes, thus far choosing new makuuchi wrestlers (those who are promoted to makuuchi for the first time in their careers) has been a sure thing, they almost always get kk, often a good one, 9-6 or 10-5 and prize... 'Course, things still can turn around for both Asaseki and Takekaze. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 47,124 Posted March 10, 2003 Chiyotaikai's losses to Takanowaka and Hokutoriki last basho, his bad pre-basho training sessions, where he lost to both Shoryu and Sekiryu and his somewhat unconvincing start of the current basho don't really add confidence to his fans. Sorry to be the nitpicker, but Chiyotaikai could have lost to Hokutouriki and/or Takanowaka last basho in a game of chess,or pinnocle, since he was Kyujo.. I saw both of his bouts, he was Ok. He's definitely one of the favorites, although I know Wakanosato is going to win it all. I know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yubiquitoyama 4 Posted March 10, 2003 Chiyotaikai's losses to Takanowaka and Hokutoriki last basho, his bad pre-basho training sessions, where he lost to both Shoryu and Sekiryu and his somewhat unconvincing start of the current basho don't really add confidence to his fans. I can't say I share your view of Chiyotaikai's start. Kyokutenho is (nowadays) very good on the edge, and in my view, Chiyotaikai could hardly have been more convincing than he was in that match. Against Dejima, it's understandable Taikai was slightly hesitant at tachi-ai given how quickly Dejima can sometimes come up. Instead I think Chiyotaikai rather showed the kind of sumo necessary against Dejima, that is, stopping the initial charge and letting him fall on his own face. Now, the matches 4 months ago is too far back to say anything about this basho. Also, Taikai was quite impressive against lesser opponents in training. It was just against Kaio and Asashoryu he was slightly in disadvantage, which is quite understandable. I think Taikai will be Asashoryu's greatest rival this basho, and nothing to this point has indicated differently. Now, of course he still could fail miserably, but that remains to be seen... Darth Taikai is here to rule again :-P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QttP 0 Posted March 10, 2003 Sorry to be the nitpicker, but Chiyotaikai could have lost to Hokutouriki and/or Takanowaka last basho in a game of chess,or pinnocle, since he was Kyujo..I saw both of his bouts, he was Ok. He's definitely one of the favorites, although I know Wakanosato is going to win it all. I know. Sorry, but Hatsu 2003 wasn't a real basho as far as I'm concerned :-P And I suppose that Taikai's first two bouts were convincing to some, but not to me. I just don't trust him. Next time he does hiki, Tosanoumi is gonna plummet him out of the ring. Hopefully, that will be Taikai's only loss, like last July. Oh, and don't worry if whatever I write doesn't make sense. I'd be surprised if it did. Stupid Use Case Diagram Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QttP 0 Posted March 10, 2003 Now, the matches 4 months ago is too far back to say anything about this basho. Also, Taikai was quite impressive against lesser opponents in training. It was just against Kaio and Asashoryu he was slightly in disadvantage, which is quite understandable. I saw the Nagoya 2002 basho numerous times. Chiyotaikai's presense in every bout of his was enormous. You just knew that the other guy had no chances whatsoever. Naturally, after a couple of miserable losses, even if they were 4 months ago, and after a poor training session, it will take a while to rebuild that confidence. Notice that I'm talking about the confidence of the fans (or maybe just myself) in Chiyotaikai, not his self-confidence. Of course Kaio and Asashoryu are the hardest possible rivals one can get at the moment, and therefore it's nothing unusual to lose to them. But - if Taikai wants to prove anything, he should be better than Kaio, and he definitely should be better than Asashoryu. And looking at the results of their last meetings (whether training or real basho bouts), it sure doesn't seem the case. Another reason for me to worry. Stupid Use Case Diagram Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yoavoshimaru 0 Posted March 12, 2003 I saw both of his bouts, he was Ok. He's definitely one of the favorites, although I know Wakanosato is going to win it all. I know. Oh, Kintamyama-zeki, you realize you just jinxed Wakanosato terribly? :-/ His chances of winning the basho now are much lower... M13e Kasuganishiki (2-0) uwatenage M12w Akinoshima (0-2)... This really looked like intai-sumo to me I agree. I don't think he's going to wait too long, either (like Daizen). He'll be juryo for next basho, and if things don't go too well then, it might be time to go :~-( (Huh?) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
