21 Hatsu 13 - The Results

[Terarno 47]

Hi !

1. A
2. A
3. B
4. B
5. A
6. B
7. B
8. B
9. A
10. A
11. A
12. X
13. B
14. B
15. B
16. A
17. B
18. A
19. A
20. A
21. A

Thanks.

[Asojima 2,874]

There are 24 entrants for Hatsu 13 with 504 picks ( 306 A's, 172 B's and 26 X's ).

			The Picks for Hatsu 13
		A		[/th][th=2]B		X		Day
1.	Ye	Hakuho	(18 )	Yw	Harumafuji	( 4 )		(2)	--	.
2.	O1e	Kisenosato	(17 )	O2e	Kotooshu	( 7 )		(0)	--	.
3.	O1w	Kakuryu	(13 )	O2w	Kotoshogiku	(11 )		(0)	--	.
4.	Se	Goeido	( 7 )	Sw	Baruto	(13 )		(4)	--	.
5.	Ke	Tochiozan	(17 )	Kw	Shohozan	( 7 )		(0)	--	.
6.	M1e	Aminishiki	(11 )	M2e	Toyonoshima	(13 )		(0)	--	.
7.	M1w	Myogiryu	(18 )	M3w	Kaisei	( 5 )		(1)	--	.
8.	M2w	Kyokutenho	(11 )	M3e	Toyohibiki	(13 )		(0)	--	.
9.	M4e	Gagamaru	(11 )	M4w	Aran	(13 )		(0)	--	1
10.	M5e	Homasho	(16 )	M5w	Ikioi	( 6 )		(2)	--	Homasho kyujo from Day 1
11.	M6e	Tochinoshin	(14 )	M7w	Masunoyama	( 8 )		(2)	--	.
12.	M6w	Aoiyama	(17 )	M9w	Takekaze	( 5 )		(2)	--	.
13.	M7e	Takayasu	(12 )	M8e	Yoshikaze	(12 )		(0)	--	2
14.	M8w	Chiyotairyu	(17 )	M10e	Kitataiki	( 5 )		(2)	--	.
15.	M9e	Tokitenku	(16 )	M12e	Sadanofuji	( 7 )		(1)	--	.
16.	M10w	Okinoumi	(18 )	M16e	Miyabiyama	( 1 )		(5)	--	.
17.	M11e	Wakanosato	( 9 )	M12w	Tamawashi	(14 )		(1)	--	.
18.	M11w	Fujiazuma	(13 )	M13w	Asahisho	(10 )		(1)	--	.
19.	M13e	Daido	(14 )	M14w	Takarafuji	( 9 )		(1)	--	.
20.	M14e	Shotenro	(19 )	M16w	Tamaasuka	( 4 )		(1)	--	.
21.	M15e	Tochinowaka	(18 )	M15w	Kotoyuki	( 5 )		(1)	--	.

Welcome to our new player, ScreechingOwl. For Hatsu, Flohru has the most picks in agreement with the other entrants. Our most disagreeable player is Tsubame, followed very closely by Bugman and tzutzy.
Most of the matches have closer than normal pick counts, and we have some very interesting X picks. It should be an interesting basho.
Let's get this thing started!

Ooops! Eagle-eyed Profomisakari once again caught 2 typos in my entries. The counts have been corrected.

Edited January 11, 2013 by Asojima

[Chisaiyama 11]

1. A

2. A

3. A

4. A

5. B

6. A

7. B

8. A

9. B

10. B

11. A

12. A

13. A

14. A

15. B

16. A

17. B

18. A

19. A

20. B

21. A

[Asojima 2,874]

1. A

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Submitted after the deadline. Sorry. The rule is the rules.

[Peeter 15]

No 21 matches scheduled for Day 3.

Found 4 of them - 20, 17, 11, 4

[Asojima 2,874]

No 21 matches scheduled for Day 3.

Found 4 of them - 20, 17, 11, 4

Oooops. I was looking at the wrong day. Thanks for the catch.

[Profomisakari 912]

Hi friends,

excuse me to post the players ranking table so late!

But there were only two bouts on the first two days.

Tomorrow we should have with 4 bouts more movemengt in the game.

This is the current placement:

Rk Player . . . . .Pts

.1 Screeching Owl . 2

.2 Pandaazuma . . . 2

.3 Jejima . . . . . 2

.4 Susanoo. . . . . 2

.5 Holleshoryu. . . 2

.6 Kuroimori. . . . 1

.7 Achiyama . . . . 1

.8 Tochinofuji. . . 1

.9 Peeter . . . . . 1

10 Asojima. . . . . 1

11 Senkoho. . . . . 1

12 Ronnie . . . . . 1

13 Profomisakari. . 1

14 Shimodahito. . . 1

15 Yamasanzan . . . 1

16 Bugman . . . . . 1

17 Flohru . . . . . 1

18 Terarno. . . . . 1

19 Tsubame. . . . . 0

20 Wamahada . . . . 0

21 Tzutzy . . . . . 0

22 Andonishiki. . . 0

23 Fujisan. . . . . 0

24 Mmikasazuma. . . 0

Profomisakari

[Profomisakari 912]

Now we have 6 bouts and a clear leading player: All bouts to this time won A.

Congratutlations Jejima!

But the game will go on.

Let's see, how long this goes!

This is the current players ranking:

Rk Player . . . . .Pts

.1 Jejima . . . . . 6

.2 Tochinofuji. . . 5

.3 Screeching Owl . 5

.4 Pandaazuma . . . 5

.5 Holleshoryu. . . 5

.6 Kuroimori. . . . 4

.7 Achiyama . . . . 4

.8 Ronnie . . . . . 4

.9 Profomisakari. . 4

10 Asojima. . . . . 3

11 Andonishiki. . . 3

12 Flohru . . . . . 3

13 Susanoo. . . . . 3

14 Terarno. . . . . 3

15 Peeter . . . . . 2

16 Senkoho. . . . . 2

17 Shimodahito. . . 2

18 Yamasanzan . . . 2

19 Bugman . . . . . 2

20 Fujisan. . . . . 2

21 Wamahada . . . . 1

22 Tzutzy . . . . . 1

23 Mmikasazuma. . . 1

24 Tsubame. . . . . 0

Profomisakari

Edited January 15, 2013 by Profomisakari

[Tsubame 378]

Still zero points? Still last place?

Feeling like a deja-vu from last time :-S

[Profomisakari 912]

Hey, Tsubame!

Today we had only one bout and you picked this bout too false.

But there is many hope for you to give away the red lamp to other players.

Today the first time not Rikishi A won his bout and All A picker Jejima lost the top position per tiebreaker to Tochinofuji.

This ist the ranking:

Rk Player . . . . .Pts

.1 Tochinofuji. . . 6

.2 Jejima . . . . . 6

.3 Screeching Owl . 5

.4 Pandaazuma . . . 5

.5 Holleshoryu. . . 5

.6 Kuroimori. . . . 4

.7 Achiyama . . . . 4

.8 Asojima. . . . . 4

.9 Ronnie . . . . . 4

10 Profomisakari. . 4

11 Senkoho. . . . . 3

12 Shimodahito. . . 3

13 Bugman . . . . . 3

14 Andonishiki. . . 3

15 Flohru . . . . . 3

16 Susanoo. . . . . 3

17 Terarno. . . . . 3

18 Peeter . . . . . 2

19 Wamahada . . . . 2

20 Yamasanzan . . . 2

21 Tzutzy . . . . . 2

22 Fujisan. . . . . 2

23 Mmikasazuma. . . 1

24 Tsubame. . . . . 0

Profomisakari

[Profomisakari 912]

Again only one bout today.

Toyonoshima won and both leaders had him not.

So we have now 4 leaders with each 6 points and 6 pursuers with each 5.

On the top with tiebreaker is as ever Tochinofuji.

As ever Tsubame stays on a zero number.

The players ranking is as follows:

Rk Player . . . . .Pts

.1 Tochinofuji. . . 6

.2 Screeching Owl . 6

.3 Pandaazuma . . . 6

.4 Jejima . . . . . 6

.5 Kuroimori. . . . 5

.6 Achiyama . . . . 5

.7 Asojima. . . . . 5

.8 Ronnie . . . . . 5

.9 Profomisakari. . 5

10 Holleshoryu. . . 5

11 Flohru . . . . . 4

12 Susanoo. . . . . 4

13 Terarno. . . . . 4

14 Peeter . . . . . 3

15 Senkoho. . . . . 3

16 Wamahada . . . . 3

17 Shimodahito. . . 3

18 Bugman . . . . . 3

19 Tzutzy . . . . . 3

20 Andonishiki. . . 3

21 Yamasanzan . . . 2

22 Fujisan. . . . . 2

23 Mmikasazuma. . . 1

24 Tsubame. . . . . 0

Profomisakari

Edited January 18, 2013 by Profomisakari

[Tsubame 378]

Don't know if I should laugh or cry?

Maybe it will be easier next time, if you add a new rule, which says that player with name "Tsubame" can never achieve a single point?! :-D

Edited January 18, 2013 by Tsubame

[Profomisakari 912]

@ Tsubame, to laugh is always better!

And there will never be special rules for a single player.

Profomisakari

[Profomisakari 912]

We have a new (old) leader.

All A specialist Jejima came with 8 points back to the top position.

But he has now six pursuers, only one point back.

And Tsubame?

Has his first points, two in a row!

The red lamp he didn't lose.

But there is much time until Senshuraku.

This is the players ranking:

Rk Player . . . . .Pts

.1 Jejima . . . . . 8

.2 Achiyama . . . . 7

.3 Tochinofuji. . . 7

.4 Asojima. . . . . 7

.5 Ronnie . . . . . 7

.6 Profomisakari. . 7

.7 Pandaazuma . . . 7

.8 Kuroimori. . . . 6

.9 Screeching Owl . 6

10 Holleshoryu. . . 6

11 Wamahada . . . . 5

12 Bugman . . . . . 5

13 Flohru . . . . . 5

14 Senkoho. . . . . 4

15 Shimodahito. . . 4

16 Tzutzy . . . . . 4

17 Susanoo. . . . . 4

18 Terarno. . . . . 4

19 Peeter . . . . . 3

20 Yamasanzan . . . 3

21 Andonishiki. . . 3

22 Fujisan. . . . . 3

23 Mmikasazuma. . . 3

24 Tsubame. . . . . 2

Profomisakari

[Tsubame 378]

(Zabuton flying...)

[Asojima 2,874]

The final results

			The Results for Hatsu 13
		A		[/th][th=2]B		X		Day
1.	Ye	Hakuho	(18 )	Yw	Harumafuji	( 4 )		(2)	--	15
2.	O1e	Kisenosato	(17 )	O2e	Kotooshu	( 7 )		(0)	--	15
3.	O1w	Kakuryu	(13 )	O2w	Kotoshogiku	(11 )		(0)	--	15
4.	Se	Goeido	( 7 )	Sw	Baruto	(13 )		(4)	--	3
5.	Ke	Tochiozan	(17 )	Kw	Shohozan	( 7 )		(0)	--	4
6.	M1e	Aminishiki	(11 )	M2e	Toyonoshima	(13 )		(0)	--	6
7.	M1w	Myogiryu	(18 )	M3w	Kaisei	( 5 )		(1)	--	No Match
8.	M2w	Kyokutenho	(11 )	M3e	Toyohibiki	(13 )		(0)	--	8
9.	M4e	Gagamaru	(11 )	M4w	Aran	(13 )		(0)	--	1
10.	M5e	Homasho	(16 )	M5w	Ikioi	( 6 )		(2)	--	Homasho kyujo from Day 1
11.	M6e	Tochinoshin	(14 )	M7w	Masunoyama	( 8 )		(2)	--	3
12.	M6w	Aoiyama	(17 )	M9w	Takekaze	( 5 )		(2)	--	8
13.	M7e	Takayasu	(12 )	M8e	Yoshikaze	(12 )		(0)	--	2
14.	M8w	Chiyotairyu	(17 )	M10e	Kitataiki	( 5 )		(2)	--	No Match
15.	M9e	Tokitenku	(16 )	M12e	Sadanofuji	( 7 )		(1)	--	14
16.	M10w	Okinoumi	(18 )	M16e	Miyabiyama	( 1 )		(5)	--	No Match.
17.	M11e	Wakanosato	( 9 )	M12w	Tamawashi	(14 )		(1)	--	3
18.	M11w	Fujiazuma	(13 )	M13w	Asahisho	(10 )		(1)	--	13
19.	M13e	Daido	(14 )	M14w	Takarafuji	( 9 )		(1)	--	No Match
20.	M14e	Shotenro	(19 )	M16w	Tamaasuka	( 4 )		(1)	--	3
21.	M15e	Tochinowaka	(18 )	M15w	Kotoyuki	( 5 )		(1)	--	No Match

No 21 matches scheduled for Days 5, 7, 9, 10, 11 and 12.

By rule, all picks for match 10 will be counted as correct. Edited January 27, 2013 by Asojima

[Profomisakari 912]

Two days before Senshuraku we have only 11 bouts and tomorrow too only one.

Tomorrow we can have a look at the X picks and we should see, if they'll decide games final result.

But I think we'll have a whole string of bouts. - and we have to wait until the last of them.

At first we have the same leader as yesterday: All A picker Jejima with 9 points, but now before only 2 pursuers: Achiyama and Profomisakari (as me).

This is the current ranking table:

Rk Player . . . . .Pts

.1 Jejima . . . . . 9

.2 Achiyama . . . . 8

.3 Profomisakari. . 8

.4 Tochinofuji. . . 7

.5 Asojima. . . . . 7

.6 Ronnie . . . . . 7

.7 Pandaazuma . . . 7

.8 Kuroimori. . . . 6

.9 Screeching Owl . 6

10 Bugman . . . . . 6

11 Flohru . . . . . 6

12 Holleshoryu. . . 6

13 Wamahada . . . . 5

14 Tzutzy . . . . . 5

15 Susanoo. . . . . 5

16 Terarno. . . . . 5

17 Peeter . . . . . 4

18 Senkoho. . . . . 4

19 Shimodahito. . . 4

20 Yamasanzan . . . 4

21 Andonishiki. . . 4

22 Fujisan. . . . . 4

23 Mmikasazuma. . . 4

24 Tsubame. . . . . 2

Profomisakari

Edited January 26, 2013 by Profomisakari

[Profomisakari 912]

Oops, this is painfull!
I let the comment I wrote today, but it ignores the X picks .
I didn' write them into my calculations table.
This means, the following players ranking table, that I posted today, is without consideration the X picks.
I#m sure, tomorrow, if I had completed the results of bouts 1 to 3, I had wondered and corected the table.

But Jim mailed me my painfull mistake. and I should it correct instandly.
So let me write the comment new!

At first: This is the current ranking table without realization of X picks:

Rk Player . . . . .Pts
.1 Jejima . . . . . 11
.2 Achiyama . . . . 10
.3 Profomisakari. . 10
.4 Tochinofuji. . . .9
.5 Asojima. . . . . .9
.6 Pandaazuma . . . .9
.7 Ronnie . . . . . .8
.8 Screeching Owl . .8
.9 Bugman . . . . . .8
10 Flohru . . . . . .8
11 Holleshoryu. . . .8
12 Kuroimori. . . . .7
13 Senkoho. . . . . .6
14 Wamahada . . . . .6
15 Shimodahito. . . .6
16 Yamasanzan . . . .6
17 Tzutzy . . . . . .6
18 Andonishiki. . . .6
19 Susanoo. . . . . .6
20 Fujisan. . . . . .6
21 Mmikasazuma. . . .6
22 Terarno. . . . . .6
23 Peeter . . . . . .5
24 Tsubame. . . . . .3

But there were five X picks and this brings the follwing new ranking:

Rk Player . . . . .Pts
.1 Profomisakari. . 11
.2 Jejima . . . . . 11
.3 Achiyama . . . . 10
.4 Tochinofuji. . . 10
.5 Asojima. . . . . 10
.6 Tzutzy . . . . . 10
.7 Pandaazuma . . . .9
.8 Bugman . . . . . .9
.9 Kuroimori. . . .. 8
10 Ronnie . . . . . .8
11 Screeching Owl . .8
12 Flohru . . . . . .8
13 Holleshoryu. . . .8
14 Susanoo. . . . . .7
15 Senkoho. . . . . .6
16 Wamahada . . . . .6
17 Shimodahito. . . .6
18 Yamasanzan . . . .6
19 Andonishiki. . . .6
20 Fujisan. . . . . .6
21 Mmikasazuma. . . .6
22 Terarno. . . . . .6
23 Peeter . . . . . .5
24 Tsubame. . . . . .3

Profomisakari (as me) had only one bout with X picked, but just this bout didn't take place. So I have the same 11 points like Jejima, but the better tiebreaker.

But now you can check, who can beat me with for hoim lucky bout results!
At first: Jejima has the same A picks as me - and cannot win.
How I found out, there are only Kuroimori (currently 8 points, but three different picks), Achiyama and Tochinofuji, who all can reach the same result as me - and they all have a better tiebreaker as me.
But they must have the different picks right.
I hope for me.

And thank you, Jim for the message!

Profomisakari

Edited January 26, 2013 by Profomisakari

[Achiyama 1,271]

Looks like after Senshuraku bouts there are 6 players with 11 points in this order:

1. Kuroimori 11 pts.

2. Achiyama 11 pts.

3. Tochinofuji 11 pts.

4. Profomisakari 11 pts.

5. Tzutzy 11 pts.

6. Jejima 11 pts.

[Profomisakari 912]

You look right, @ Achiyama!

This was a very very dramatic final!

Three open bouts we hat today, the last three of the whole basho.

An excellent performance of our bout selector Asojima.

Before these 3 bouts leaded Profomisakari with 11 points.

The first relevant bout to the game was Kakuryu vs Kotoshiguki (both Spatzls of Fay).

Shogi won and the new leader was Tochinofuji before me. My chance had had it, or was "im Eimer", how the Germans say.

Next bout was Kise against Osh. And Kise lost . So was the new leader Achiyama with no more chance for Tochinofuji.

But than came the final bout between the Yokozunas. And there was Kuroimori, who had given his vote as first and so had the best tiebreaker. This morning he was 3 point behind the leader. But he had all three bouts different to me - and from the leading group as the only one voted for Harumafuji.

Haruma won and now is the great winner of the Hatsu basho 2013 21 game:

(Showing respect...) (Clapping wildly...) (Yusho winner...) (First prize...)Kuroimori!!! (First prize...) (Yusho winner...) (Clapping wildly...) (Showing respect...)

(Doing a wave...) (Showing respect...) (Showing respect...) (Clapping wildly...) (Yusho winner...) (Clapping wildly...) (Showing respect...) (Showing respect...) (Doing a wave...)

Congratulations on the 21 game Hatsu Basho 2013 Yusho

and this fantastic finish!!

This is the final players ranking table:

Rk Player . . . . . Pts

.1 Kuroimori. . . . 11

.2 Achiyama . . . . 11

.3 Tochinofuji. . . 11

.4 Profomisakari. . 11

.5 Tzutzy . . . . . 11

.6 Jejima . . . . . 11

.7 Asojima. . . . . 10

.8 Pandaazuma . . . 10

.9 Bugman . . . . . 10

10 Ronnie . . . . . .9

11 Yamasanzan . . . .9

12 Flohru . . . . . .9

13 Holleshoryu. . . .9

14 Wamahada . . . . .8

15 Screeching Owl . .8

16 Senkoho. . . . . .7

17 Andonishiki. . . .7

18 Susanoo. . . . . .7

19 Fujisan. . . . . .7

20 Terarno. . . . . .7

21 Peeter . . . . . .6

22 Shimodahito. . . .6

23 Mmikasazuma. . . .6

24 Tsubame. . . . . .4

Thanks to all players for participation

and especially to Asojima for this best possible bout selection.

Please excuse me for somd bad and painful mistakes!

I hope, now is all okay.

Let's meet us together next basho to a new interesting game 21!

Profomisakari

[tzutzy 0]

I'd like us participants to think and come up with some sort of sansho prizes for this game.

Here are some suggestions:

- Kanto Sho: a system similar to "guess Kisenosato's aite" ginosho prize where if you're the only one to pick let's say an A for a match and you're right, you get let's say 3 points, then 2, then 1 (with more people picking that option), winner of the prize is highest points, with a minimum of 3 or 4 points for example;

- Shukun Sho: most points from bouts involving sanyaku rikishi, with a minimum of 3 points. This past basho would've been getting most points (at least 3) from the first 5 matches.

- Gino Sho: highest number of successful 'X' picks.

Any others? :)

[Achiyama 1,271]

I'd like us participants to think and come up with some sort of sansho prizes for this game.

Here are some suggestions:

- Kanto Sho: a system similar to "guess Kisenosato's aite" ginosho prize where if you're the only one to pick let's say an A for a match and you're right, you get let's say 3 points, then 2, then 1 (with more people picking that option), winner of the prize is highest points, with a minimum of 3 or 4 points for example;

- Shukun Sho: most points from bouts involving sanyaku rikishi, with a minimum of 3 points. This past basho would've been getting most points (at least 3) from the first 5 matches.

- Gino Sho: highest number of successful 'X' picks.

Any others? :)

Why do you need sansho for this game??

I would rather see a Banzuke made before the next basho (like all other sumo games) than sansho.

[Achiyama 1,271]

Another thought:

In order all this to happen the points from the standings have to be transformed into win:loss, so to be determined the KK/MK line.

[tzutzy 0]

I can compile a win/loss and a banzuke if people are interested. When did the game start? As I'd need to go back to the start to be fair to early participants

Edit: I cannot find previous 21 posts in the Games Forum, have they been moved/deleted?

Edited January 30, 2013 by tzutzy

[tzutzy 0]

Why do you need sansho for this game??

Why not?? To make it more fun.