Takanobaka 0 Posted April 11, 2004 Any translation for the sign?? :-D Interesting pic though... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 47,226 Posted April 11, 2004 Any translation for the sign?? :-D "She ain't heavy, she's my mother". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kashunowaka 300 Posted April 11, 2004 I hope he doesn't try the yobimodoshi on his mom ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MongolPower 0 Posted April 12, 2004 On the top: Famous ladies of Mongolia On the bottom: H. Purevbadam-Wife of Mongolian national zaan (sekiwake?) D. Dolgorsuren (Asa is not mentioned. His family is one of well know families in Mongolia since their three sons are successful sportsmen) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yoavoshimaru 0 Posted April 12, 2004 Cool picture. The letters look a lot like Russian. Is the alphabet the same (cyrillic, right)? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Manekineko 200 Posted April 12, 2004 Look essentially the same. Whether it has some extra letters, or lacks some that Russian has I can't say... Hey, Mongolians, is Russian a popular second language in Mongolia? When did you adopt cyrillic as your alphabet? Languages always interest me. :-D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Takanobaka 0 Posted April 12, 2004 (edited) Look essentially the same. Whether it has some extra letters, or lacks some that Russian has I can't say... Hey, Mongolians, is Russian a popular second language in Mongolia? When did you adopt cyrillic as your alphabet? Languages always interest me. Edited April 12, 2004 by Takanobaka Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MongolPower 0 Posted April 12, 2004 (edited) Cryllic+extra 2 letters is standard script since 1947. Our national script is top to bottom and left to right. Only kind in the world. Southern Mongolians still use it today. I believe there were a lot of pressure from Soviet Union changing it. I don't think we will switch back anytime soon since most middle aged people hardly can use the traditional script. Very old and very young can. People graduated high school before 1947 and after 1990 in between people barely know the basics. Literacy rate will be reversed to 1% if we switched official script today :-) There are a lot of problem with computing with top to bottom and left to right script too. Edit: Russian was second language. Everybody went through higher education knew Russian. I know some too. Nowadays people have many choices for their second language. English is very popular. Then languages of our neighbor Russian and Chinese. Then languages of leading donors and investors Japanese, German, Korean so on. Edited April 12, 2004 by MongolPower Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuBa 77 Posted April 12, 2004 (edited) With your permission to correct just a couple of historical facts. During Stalin's reign, he exhibited much pressure on Mongolia and essentially threatened to annex them should they not be more cooperative with Russia than culturally similar (and then primarily under Japanese rule) China. Well, Mongolia never was culturally similar to China, and even after 200 some years under Manchurian Emperor, Chinese and Mongolians were distinctive different. Some historians claim that this was deliberate Manchurian policy, to keep the Mongolians apart of China. Because,before conquering China, they were themselves, like Mongols, a nomad tribe. There were Manchurian laws prohibiting Chinese nationals to settle dawn in Mongolia. The Merchants had to get special permissions etc... Similarly, around the same time, Stalin had already annexed the Altay region of China [which is very ethnically similar to Mongolia] and this region remains a part of Russia to this day. Probably, you were referring to Tuva. The Tuva were the western neighbors, akin to Mongolian with the same culture and religion, and in fact Mongolia and Tuva were considered to that time as one country. At last, here is one pure hypothetical question. How would you like these kind of logic; A, B, and C were taken over by D, after a while A,B, and C manage to break free again, but now C claims, A and B were a part of C? I would say not very logical. Edited April 12, 2004 by BuBa Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MongolPower 0 Posted April 13, 2004 It is totally understandable that Manchurians kept Mongolia and China seperate because if they joined force they would have toppled the Manchurian empire. This is why big empires never last. More you conquour more enemies you have. If some how all the enemies join their forces the empire is destroyed. Philosophy behind is "Enemy of my emeny must be my friend". US and Soviet Union were once friends during WWII and before Cold War. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coo-cook 0 Posted April 13, 2004 Hi everybody, Nice to be here.I'm a long time reader of your forum and it's first time that I'm posting. Well,..I'm also one of these few Mongolians in the forum. I agree with Buba saying that Mongolians and Chinese are culturally not similar. Well... think about it ? Mongolians (and Turks) are fermented milk (airag or kumys) drinkers. And Chinese, Japanese and Koreans drink sake (rice wine). Romans drink grape wine. Slavians drink vodka. Anglo-saxons drink beer and Arabs drink nothing. I'm talking about alcoholic beverages but it tells also differences between cultures. Are you agree with me? Sorry being way-off topic. By the way, I like all drinks I mentioned above. java script:emoticon(':-D') Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Takanobaka 0 Posted April 13, 2004 I'm sorry for the confusion....by 'more culturally similar' I was attempting to refer to the large portion of the ethnically Mongolian area that's located in China (outer Mongolia? I can never remember which is which). Thanks for all the explanations though! In retrospect, I probably shouldn't have jumped the gun and should have let some people who are actually there answer the question. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yoavoshimaru 0 Posted April 13, 2004 Arabs drink water and coffee I think, but I see your point :-( Our national script is top to bottom and left to right. Only kind in the world. What do you mean? English and most of the Latin-derived languages are read that way as well. Welcome to the forum Coo-cook :-) We might be having a Mongolian infusion to rival the Kyokai's (Clapping wildly...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 20,249 Posted April 13, 2004 Our national script is top to bottom and left to right. Only kind in the world. What do you mean? English and most of the Latin-derived languages are read that way as well. No, I guess it's top to bottom first, then left to right, i.e. it's written in columns, not in lines. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MongolPower 0 Posted April 14, 2004 (edited) Yeah it's written in columns. Here is link to a sample of it. Edit: Moderators please move this thread to off topic subforum since it got way too 'off topic'. Edited April 14, 2004 by MongolPower Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amgaa99 0 Posted June 8, 2004 If my not mistake, this topic about picture of Asa and his mom. Why all of you wrote about alphabet and alcohol. Hehe. In addition, do you know about Asa's two brothers Sumiyabazar and Sumiyabeis? These are famous national wrestlers of Mongolia. Sumiayabeis called in Japan "Blue wolf". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amgaa99 0 Posted June 8, 2004 Buba, Mongol-Power, Coo-cook. Sain baitsgaana uu? Mongolooroo bichchikheye. Ene yoponuud yah bol. hehe. Ene forumd heden mongol baina aa? Bugded handsan private messagiig yaj bichdeg um be? sumo.mn deer sayiin temtseenii ueer bootsoo tavisan uu? Hir amjilttai baisan? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MongolPower 0 Posted June 8, 2004 Off topic and too old so it's closed! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites