WAKATAKE 2,681 Posted November 1, 2020 East vs West November 2020 rolls into town! I am glad to say that the reception was very warm for this game in its debut last basho, and I'm hoping we can attract more players this basho. The goal of East vs West is as follows: Pick which side (east or west) you think will win more bouts each day of the basho for all six divisions. The scoring is similar to how Turn the Tide works. You must have a clear majority in order to score a win (4 correct guesses or more). The player with the best record at the end of the basho will be declared the yusho winner! Rules 1. Pick the side of each division you think will win the most matches for the given day of the basho. Your two choices will be the east or west sides 2. If you picked the winning side, you will receive a correct guess for the division. You must have at least 4 correct guesses in order to score a win for the day (3-3 will result in a loss) a. Should the east and west of a division split the matches evenly, this will be counted as a correct guess 3. Kyujo matches are counted towards the total if they end up on the winning side 4. Players will submit their picks via the Survey Monkey link. In the case that Survey Monkey does not work, a template form will be posted in the game thread to use 5. Because this game involves all six divisions, the deadline for submitting your daily picks will be 8am JST (3pm PST/6pm EST) 6. The player with the best 15 day record will be declared the yusho winner 7. In the case of two or more players having the same score, we will go to a tiebreaker Bonus Game (Gino-Sho/Technique Prize, must have kachi-koshi) 1. The bonus game will be used as one of the factors for the tiebreaker 2. Players will pick how many matches they think the winning sides will have. This is regardless of which side wins, and also does not have any affect on the players' main game picks 3. You will pick from the following categories a. Makuuchi b. Juryo c. Makushita joi (last 5 matches of makushita) 4. The lowest margin of error will be used for the tiebreaker 5. At the end of the basho, the lowest margin of error winners for each category will be announced 6. The player with the lowest combined margin of error for all three categories will win the Gino-Sho 7. Margin of error is cumulative, so whether you are under or over the daily result, (-1 or +2) these will added as regular margin of error Tiebreaker 1. 5-0 guess for the Makushita joi from the bonus game 2. Most 6-0 guesses for the basho 3. Most 6-0 & 5-1 guesses for the basho 4. Lowest combined margin of error for the bonus game 5. Bullseye for the bonus game (no margin of error) in the following order a. Makuuchi b. Juryo c. Makushita 6. Most correct guesses per division in the following order a. Makuuchi b. Juryo c. Makushita d. Sandanme e. Jonidan f. Jonokuchi 7. Best combined correct guess record for Makuuchi, Juryo, Makushita 8. Best combined correct guess record for Sandanme, Jonidan, Jonokuchi 9. Earliest submissions Sansho (Special Prizes) Shukun-Sho: Most 6-0 daily guesses (must have kachi-koshi) Kanto-Sho: Most correct guesses for Makushita, Sandanme, Jonidan, Jonokuchi divisions (must have kachi-koshi) Gino-Sho: Lowest combined margin of error from the bonus game (must have kachi-koshi) Chanko-Sho: Lowest margin of error for Makuuchi in the bonus game (KK not required) Sukiyaki-Sho: Lowest margin of error for Juryo in the bonus game (KK not required) Gyudon-Sho: Lowest margin of error for Makushita in the bonus game (KK not required) Kinboshi (main game): Lone 6-0 daily guess Kinboshi (bonus game): Lone Bullseye in Makuuchi (no margin of error) Ginboshi (bonus game): Lone Bullseye in Juryo (no margin of error) Diamond Star: 5-0 guess for the Makushita Joi In case you are not able to make the daily submissions because of the deadline, please feel free to submit a default template using the link below so that you will not be MIA. https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/5S6STNB See you all in the basho! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WAKATAKE 2,681 Posted November 7, 2020 Day 1 link for East vs West is live! Deadline to enter on day 1 is 8am Japan time and 3pm PST. https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/77BBYPS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WAKATAKE 2,681 Posted November 7, 2020 Picks received so far for day 1 of East vs West: wolfgangho Holleshoryu Athenayama Jejima (Ghost from Aki - all east sides and 12-8-3 bonus) WAKATAKE Yoohoo (default template) Missing entries from @Shinobi Steve and @chishafuwaku. Also new players are invited! Entries for day 1 are due at 8am JST/3pm PST Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WAKATAKE 2,681 Posted November 8, 2020 Day 1 submissions: Main Game Bonus Game Day 1 Jonokuchi Jonidan Sandanme Makushita Juryo Makuuchi Makuuchi Juryo Makushita Player Pick Actual Result Pick Actual Result Pick Actual Result Pick Actual Result Pick Actual Result Pick Actual Result Pick Result MoE Pick Result MoE Pick Result MoE Jejima East East East East East East 12 8 3 wolfgangho West East East West East East 15 9 3 Holleshoryu East East West East East East 11 8 3 Athenayama West East East West East East 13 8 4 Tameiki East East West East East East 11 7 4 chishafuwaku West West West East East West 11 8 3 Yoohoo East East East East East East 12 8 5 WAKATAKE East West East East West West 12 7 4 Welcome again to East vs West November 2020! Seven players have returned for the game, with new player Tameiki also joining the game! @Shinobi Steve is MIA, I hope that we'll be able to see him from day 2. New players interested in the game are welcome to play from day 2 also! You can also fill out the default template if you do not plan on playing all 15 days. Good luck to everyone! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WAKATAKE 2,681 Posted November 8, 2020 Day 2 link: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/79YMLV6 Default template: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/5S6STNB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shinobi Steve 146 Posted November 8, 2020 Sorry, I'm kyujo this basho. I'll rest up, fall down the banzuke, and make my triumphal return in January with a yusho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WAKATAKE 2,681 Posted November 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Shinobi Steve said: Sorry, I'm kyujo this basho. I'll rest up, fall down the banzuke, and make my triumphal return in January with a yusho. If you fill out the default template you'll be good for the basho Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WAKATAKE 2,681 Posted November 8, 2020 Day 1 results: Main Game Bonus Game Day 1 Jonokuchi Jonidan Sandanme Makushita Juryo Makuuchi Makuuchi Juryo Makushita Player Pick Actual Result Pick Actual Result Pick Actual Result Pick Actual Result Pick Actual Result Pick Actual Result Pick Result MoE Pick Result MoE Pick Result MoE Jejima East 9-5 W Loss East 27-25 E Win East 28-19 E Win East 15-15 T Win East 8-5 W Loss East 13-7 E Win 12 13 1 8 8 0 3 3 0 wolfgangho West 9-5 W Win East 27-25 E Win East 28-19 E Win West 15-15 T Win East 8-5 W Loss East 13-7 E Win 15 13 2 9 8 1 3 3 0 Holleshoryu East 9-5 W Loss East 27-25 E Win West 28-19 E Loss East 15-15 T Win East 8-5 W Loss East 13-7 E Win 11 13 2 8 8 0 3 3 0 Athenayama West 9-5 W Win East 27-25 E Win East 28-19 E Win West 15-15 T Win East 8-5 W Loss East 13-7 E Win 13 13 0 8 8 0 4 3 1 Tameiki East 9-5 W Loss East 27-25 E Win West 28-19 E Loss East 15-15 T Win East 8-5 W Loss East 13-7 E Win 11 13 2 7 8 1 4 3 1 chishafuwaku West 9-5 W Win West 27-25 E Loss West 28-19 E Loss East 15-15 T Win East 8-5 W Loss West 13-7 E Loss 11 13 2 8 8 0 3 3 0 Yoohoo East 9-5 W Loss East 27-25 E Win East 28-19 E Win East 15-15 T Win East 8-5 W Loss East 13-7 E Win 12 13 1 8 8 0 5 3 2 WAKATAKE East 9-5 W Loss West 27-25 E Loss East 28-19 E Win East 15-15 T Win West 8-5 W Win West 13-7 E Loss 12 13 1 7 8 1 4 3 1 Standings Day 1: Day 1 Basho Bonus Player Score Result Record MoE Athenayama 5-1 Win 1-0 1 wolfgangho 5-1 Win 1-0 3 Jejima 4-2 Win 1-0 1 Yoohoo 4-2 Win 1-0 3 Holleshoryu 3-3 Loss 0-1 2 WAKATAKE 3-3 Loss 0-1 3 Tameiki 3-3 Loss 0-1 4 chishafuwaku 2-4 Loss 0-1 2 4 players are able to score wins on day 1, making for what will hopefully be an interesting playfield. Athenayama also scored a kinboshi in the bonus game as he was the only one to get a bullseye on the number of matches that the winning side scored. This gives him a TB advantage. Let's see what day 2 gives us! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WAKATAKE 2,681 Posted November 8, 2020 Day 2 submissions: Day 2 Jonokuchi Jonidan Sandanme Makushita Juryo Makuuchi Bonus 1 Bonus 2 Bonus 3 Player Pick Actual Result Pick Actual Result Pick Actual Result Pick Actual Result Pick Actual Result Pick Actual Result Pick Result MoE Pick Result MoE Pick Result MoE Jejima East East East East East East 12 8 3 Yoohoo East East East East East East 12 8 5 WAKATAKE East West East East West West 12 7 4 chishafuwaku West West West East East West 11 8 3 Shinobi Steve East East West East East East 14 9 3 Athenayama West East East West East East 12 7 4 Holleshoryu West East East East West East 11 7 3 wolfgangho West East East West East East 12 8 5 Tameiki N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A 0 0 0 Shinobi Steve joins the field on day 2, while @Tameiki was MIA. Recommend filling out the default template so that you at least have picks to submit even if you don't play daily. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WAKATAKE 2,681 Posted November 8, 2020 Day 3 link: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/2CG69YN Default template: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/5S6STNB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WAKATAKE 2,681 Posted November 13, 2020 Welcome back everyone! I am now posting again starting from day 7. I will have to evaluate what we will do about days 4-6, but most of the field had submitted default picks and we did have one forum member that was able to access the links on here to submit for day 4-6, so more than likely I will counting those days. I will let you know what I do later. For now, please use the link below for day 7 https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/2J69BKN Default template (RECOMMENDED IN CASE YOU MISS A DAY OR THE FORUM GOES DOWN AGAIN) https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/5S6STNB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tameiki 185 Posted November 13, 2020 On 09/11/2020 at 00:50, WAKATAKE said: Shinobi Steve joins the field on day 2, while @Tameiki was MIA. Recommend filling out the default template so that you at least have picks to submit even if you don't play daily. I may have been daydreaming but I am absolutely convinced that I played Day 2... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WAKATAKE 2,681 Posted November 14, 2020 4 hours ago, Tameiki said: I may have been daydreaming but I am absolutely convinced that I played Day 2... Let me check back on this. The game (and a few others) are already complicated by the forum having been down for 3 days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WAKATAKE 2,681 Posted November 14, 2020 Day 8 link: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/2JZZ5R5 Default template: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/5S6STNB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WAKATAKE 2,681 Posted November 15, 2020 Day 9 link: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/56B89KG Default template: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/5S6STNB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WAKATAKE 2,681 Posted November 16, 2020 Day 10 link: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/V68TGJC Default template: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/5S6STNB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WAKATAKE 2,681 Posted November 17, 2020 Day 11 link: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/D8VRTTV Default template https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/5S6STNB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WAKATAKE 2,681 Posted November 18, 2020 Day 12 link: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/C73N2KN Default template: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/5S6STNB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WAKATAKE 2,681 Posted November 19, 2020 Day 13 link: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/6QBS28Y Default template: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/5S6STNB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WAKATAKE 2,681 Posted November 20, 2020 Day 14 link: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/SCZG5SV Default template: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/5S6STNB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WAKATAKE 2,681 Posted November 21, 2020 Day 15 link: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/ZVJKB3K Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WAKATAKE 2,681 Posted November 29, 2020 (edited) Day 2 results: Day 2 Jonokuchi Jonidan Sandanme Makushita Juryo Makuuchi Bonus 1 Bonus 2 Bonus 3 Player Pick Actual Result Pick Actual Result Pick Actual Result Pick Actual Result Pick Actual Result Pick Actual Result Pick Result MoE Pick Result MoE Pick Result MoE Jejima East 10-3 W Loss East 27-25 E Win East 25-22 W Loss East 18-12 W Loss East 8-5 E Win East 10-10 T Win 12 10 2 8 8 0 3 3 0 Yoohoo East 10-3 W Loss East 27-25 E Win East 25-22 W Loss East 18-12 W Loss East 8-5 E Win East 10-10 T Win 12 10 2 8 8 0 5 3 2 WAKATAKE East 10-3 W Loss West 27-25 E Loss East 25-22 W Loss East 18-12 W Loss West 8-5 E Loss West 10-10 T Win 12 10 2 7 8 1 4 3 1 chishafuwaku West 10-3 W Win West 27-25 E Loss West 25-22 W Win East 18-12 W Loss East 8-5 E Win West 10-10 T Win 11 10 1 8 8 0 3 3 0 Shinobi Steve East 10-3 W Loss East 27-25 E Win West 25-22 W Win East 18-12 W Loss East 8-5 E Win East 10-10 T Win 14 10 4 9 8 1 3 3 0 Athenayama West 10-3 W Win East 27-25 E Win East 25-22 W Loss West 18-12 W Win East 8-5 E Win East 10-10 T Win 12 10 2 7 8 1 4 3 1 Holleshoryu West 10-3 W Win East 27-25 E Win East 25-22 W Loss East 18-12 W Loss West 8-5 E Loss East 10-10 T Win 11 10 1 7 8 1 3 3 0 wolfgangho West 10-3 W Win East 27-25 E Win East 25-22 W Loss West 18-12 W Win East 8-5 E Win East 10-10 T Win 12 10 2 8 8 0 5 3 2 Tameiki West 10-3 W Win West 27-25 E Loss East 25-22 W Loss East 18-12 W Loss East 8-5 E Win East 10-10 T Win 11 10 1 7 8 1 4 3 1 Standings day 2: Day 1 Day 2 Basho Bonus Player Score Result Score Result Record MoE Athenayama 5-1 Win 5-1 Win 2-0 5 wolfgangho 5-1 Win 5-1 Win 2-0 7 Jejima 4-2 Win 3-3 Loss 1-1 3 chishafuwaku 2-4 Loss 4-2 Win 1-1 3 Yoohoo 4-2 Win 3-3 Loss 1-1 7 Shinobi Steve N/A Fusen 4-2 Win 1-0-1 29 Holleshoryu 3-3 Loss 3-3 Loss 0-2 4 Tameiki 3-3 Loss 3-3 Loss 0-2 7 WAKATAKE 3-3 Loss 1-5 Loss 0-2 7 As pointed out to me earlier in the basho, Tameiki was correct in that they got a submission in, so the table has been partially updated. Athenayama and wolfgangho continue their day 1 success to the second day, while Shinobi Steve at the encouragement of entering managed to get a day 2 win. Edited November 29, 2020 by WAKATAKE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WAKATAKE 2,681 Posted November 29, 2020 Day 3 through 7 submissions and results will be posted as normal, as there were several players that had already submitted to the default template, and another player did submit daily entries via the default template link. Your understanding of this will be appreciated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WAKATAKE 2,681 Posted November 29, 2020 Day 3 submissions: Day 3 Jonokuchi Jonidan Sandanme Makushita Juryo Makuuchi Bonus 1 Bonus 2 Bonus 3 Player Pick Actual Result Pick Actual Result Pick Actual Result Pick Actual Result Pick Actual Result Pick Actual Result Pick Result MoE Pick Result MoE Pick Result MoE Jejima East East East East East East 12 8 3 Athenayama West East East West West East 11 9 3 Holleshoryu East East East East East East 12 9 4 WAKATAKE West West East East East West 13 9 4 Tameiki East East West East East East 14 8 4 Yoohoo East East East East East East 12 8 5 wolfgangho West West East East East East 12 8 3 chishafuwaku West West West East East West 11 8 3 Shinobi Steve East East West East East East 14 9 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WAKATAKE 2,681 Posted November 29, 2020 (edited) Day 3 results: Day 3 Jonokuchi Jonidan Sandanme Makushita Juryo Makuuchi Bonus 1 Bonus 2 Bonus 3 Player Pick Actual Result Pick Actual Result Pick Actual Result Pick Actual Result Pick Actual Result Pick Actual Result Pick Result MoE Pick Result MoE Pick Result MoE Jejima East 8-5 W Loss East 27-24 E Win East 28-19 E Win East 17-12 W Loss East 8-5 E Win East 12-8 E Win 12 12 0 8 8 0 3 3 0 Athenayama West 8-5 W Win East 27-24 E Win East 28-19 E Win West 17-12 W Win West 8-5 E Loss East 12-8 E Win 11 12 1 9 8 1 3 3 0 Holleshoryu East 8-5 W Loss East 27-24 E Win East 28-19 E Win East 17-12 W Loss East 8-5 E Win East 12-8 E Win 12 12 0 9 8 1 4 3 1 WAKATAKE West 8-5 W Win West 27-24 E Loss East 28-19 E Win East 17-12 W Loss East 8-5 E Win West 12-8 E Loss 13 12 1 9 8 1 4 3 1 Tameiki East 8-5 W Loss East 27-24 E Win West 28-19 E Loss East 17-12 W Loss East 8-5 E Win East 12-8 E Win 14 12 2 8 8 0 4 3 1 Yoohoo East 8-5 W Loss East 27-24 E Win East 28-19 E Win East 17-12 W Loss East 8-5 E Win East 12-8 E Win 12 12 0 8 8 0 5 3 2 wolfgangho West 8-5 W Win West 27-24 E Loss East 28-19 E Win East 17-12 W Loss East 8-5 E Win East 12-8 E Win 12 12 0 8 8 0 3 3 0 chishafuwaku West 8-5 W Win West 27-24 E Loss West 28-19 E Loss East 17-12 W Loss East 8-5 E Win West 12-8 E Loss 11 12 1 8 8 0 3 3 0 Shinobi Steve East 8-5 W Loss East 27-24 E Win West 28-19 E Loss East 17-12 W Loss East 8-5 E Win East 12-8 E Win 14 12 2 9 8 1 3 3 0 Standings day 3: Day 1 Day 2 Day 3 Basho Bonus Player Score Result Score Result Score Result Record MoE Athenayama 5-1* Win 5-1* Win 5-1* Win 3-0 7 wolfgangho 5-1* Win 5-1* Win 4-2 Win 3-0 7 Jejima 4-2 Win 3-3 Loss 4-2 Win 2-1 3 Yoohoo 4-2 Win 3-3 Loss 4-2 Win 2-1 9 Holleshoryu 3-3 Loss 3-3 Loss 4-2 Win 1-2 6 chishafuwaku 2-4 Loss 4-2 Win 2-4 Loss 1-2 4 Shinobi Steve N/A Fusen 4-2 Win 3-3 Loss 1-1-1 32 Tameiki 3-3 Loss 3-3 Loss 3-3 Loss 0-3 10 WAKATAKE 3-3 Loss 1-5 Loss 3-3 Loss 0-3 10 Athenayama and wolfgangho have developed winning streaks after starting 3-0, with Jejima and Yoohoo close behind. Edited November 29, 2020 by WAKATAKE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
