北磻磨 (KitaHariMa) name meaning - anyone know?

[robnplunder 976]

Does anyone know the meaning of Kithaharima's name?    I am just curious.   

[Kintamayama 45,974]

Hairy mother from the North?

[robnplunder 976]

I've got "north" all right.   The other two Kanji are "tributary of a Chinese river," and "to run/polish."     I'd guess "Polished North River."

Edited November 14, 2016 by robnplunder

[Akinomaki 41,182]

Harima is an ancient name for an area in the west of Hyogo prefecture where he is from, Harima-no-kuni. Kita is for Kitanoumi-beya and harimanage is the perfect kimarite for him.

Edited November 14, 2016 by Akinomaki

[Senkoho 552]

18 minutes ago, Akinomaki said:

Harima is an ancient name for an area in the west of Hyogo prefecture where he is from, Harima-no-kuni. Kita is for Kitanoumi-beya and harimanage is the perfect kimarite for him.

the first kanji in "harima" is different, though, isn't it?

Edited November 14, 2016 by Senkoho

[Akinomaki 41,182]

19 minutes ago, Senkoho said:

the first kanji in "harima" is different, though, isn't it?

For use in names, kanji can be varied at will.

[Akinomaki 41,182]

I searched for the reason why Kitaharima and Harimaumi (from the same area) use 磻, which is not among the kanji to be used by the press, instead of the proper 播. One convincing speculation is that Kitanoumi found the "hand" radical (here the left part) attached as unlucky - the hand (at the bout: 番 ban) touches the dohyo: "te ga tsuku" in both meanings - and replaced it with the "stone" radical.

http://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q1281805617

All other *harima*s used the proper Harima: http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi.aspx?shikona=*harima*&heya=-1&shusshin=-1&b=-1&high=-1&hd=-1&entry=-1&intai=-1&sort=1&l=j

 

 

Edited November 14, 2016 by Akinomaki

[robnplunder 976]

8 hours ago, Akinomaki said:

Harima is an ancient name for an area in the west of Hyogo prefecture where he is from, Harima-no-kuni. Kita is for Kitanoumi-beya and harimanage is the perfect kimarite for him.

Thanks!  

28 minutes ago, Akinomaki said:

I searched for the reason why Kitaharima and Harimaumi (from the same area) use 磻, which is not among the kanji to be used by the press, instead of the proper 播. One convincing speculation is that Kitanoumi found the "hand" radical (here the left part) attached as unlucky - the hand (at the bout: 番 ban) touched the dohyo (te ga tsuita) - and replaced it with the "stone" radical.

http://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q1281805617

All other *harima*s used the proper Harima: http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi.aspx?shikona=*harima*&heya=-1&shusshin=-1&b=-1&high=-1&hd=-1&entry=-1&intai=-1&sort=1&l=j

I've looked at 播 and wondered about the similarity, too.   Thanks for the explanation.  

I find learning to read Japanese is tougher than I imagined b/c of 2 - 3 different ways to read a same kanji.  

 

 

[Akinomaki 41,182]

15 minutes ago, robnplunder said:

I find learning to read Japanese is tougher than I imagined b/c of 2 - 3 different ways to read a same kanji. 

Names are the real tough part in Japanese. Fortunately most Japanese people can't be sure either how to read the not standard ones and readings are often provided.

To sum up the original question:

The meaning of Kithaharima's name is "The man from Harima in Kitanoumi-beya".

Never assume there is a meaning before you have checked all name connections.

Edited November 14, 2016 by Akinomaki

[robnplunder 976]

33 minutes ago, Akinomaki said:

Names are the real tough part in Japanese. Fortunately most Japanese people can't be sure either how to read the not standard ones and readings are often provided.

To sum up the original question:

The meaning of Kithaharima's name is "The man from Harima in Kitanoumi-beya".

Never assume there is a meaning before you have checked all name connections.

Some names are easier to guess/interpret.   Harima was tough b/c it was a name of a place, and use of a Kanji variant in the name.  But digging into name makes it easier to relate to rikishi.