Asashosakari 20,213 Posted January 16, 2013 (last year's thread here) Lineup for Hatsu Basho... Last chance for three club members to avoid moving into double-digits. Shikona Heya Debut MK Current Rank Highest Rank Record Win% Last Basho Azumayama Tamanoi Natsu 2010 14 Jonokuchi 7 West Jonidan 100 21-77 0.214 2-5 Chibahibiki Shikihide Natsu 2011 9 Jonidan 97 West Jonidan 97 25-38 0.397 3-4 Daishohama Oitekaze Natsu 2011 9 Jonokuchi 7 East Jonidan 100 21-44 0.323 2-5 Okino Hakkaku Natsu 2011 9 Jonokuchi 11 East Jonokuchi 11 8-55 0.127 1-6 Miyakojima Minezaki Hatsu 2012 5 Jonokuchi 8 West Jonidan 107 10-25 0.286 2-5 Kotouruga Sadogatake Haru 2012 4 Jonokuchi 9 East Jonokuchi 6 8-20 0.286 2-5 Rikiyushi Minezaki Haru 2012 4 Jonokuchi 10 East Jonokuchi 9 6-22 0.214 2-5 Komatsu Kise Natsu 2012 3 Jonokuchi 3 West Jonokuchi 1 9-12 0.429 3-4 Mihamaumi Tamanoi Natsu 2012 3 Jonokuchi 4 East Jonokuchi 3 8-13 0.381 3-4 Sadaisamu Sakaigawa Natsu 2012 3 Jonokuchi 10 West Jonokuchi 8 4-18 0.182 1-7 Tsurufuji Isegahama Kyushu 2011 3 Banzuke-gai Jonidan 100 6-15-14 0.286 0-0-7 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 20,213 Posted January 21, 2013 Day 8: Shikona Heya Debut MK Current Rank Highest Rank Record Win% Last Basho This Basho Azumayama Tamanoi Natsu 2010 14 Jonokuchi 7 West Jonidan 100 22-80 0.216 2-5 1-3 Chibahibiki Shikihide Natsu 2011 9 Jonidan 97 West Jonidan 97 27-40 0.403 3-4 2-2 Daishohama Oitekaze Natsu 2011 9 Jonokuchi 7 East Jonidan 100 23-46 0.333 2-5 2-2 Okino Hakkaku Natsu 2011 10 Jonokuchi 11 East Jonokuchi 11 8-59 0.119 1-6 0-4 Miyakojima Minezaki Hatsu 2012 5 Jonokuchi 8 West Jonidan 107 11-28 0.282 2-5 1-3 Kotouruga Sadogatake Haru 2012 4 Jonokuchi 9 East Jonokuchi 6 9-23 0.281 2-5 1-3 Rikiyushi Minezaki Haru 2012 4 Jonokuchi 10 East Jonokuchi 9 8-24 0.250 2-5 2-2 Komatsu Kise Natsu 2012 3 Jonokuchi 3 West Jonokuchi 1 11-14 0.440 3-4 2-2 Mihamaumi Tamanoi Natsu 2012 3 Jonokuchi 4 East Jonokuchi 3 10-15 0.400 3-4 2-2 Sadaisamu Sakaigawa Natsu 2012 3 Jonokuchi 10 West Jonokuchi 8 6-20 0.231 1-7 2-2 Tsurufuji Isegahama Kyushu 2011 3 Banzuke-gai Jonidan 100 6-15-14 0.286 0-0-7 --- No real KK contenders this basho, although with so many of them at 2-2, maybe they'll all get matched up and somebody's going to emerge 4-3 just by necessity... Not Okino though who's already MK again to clinch dai-persistence status. Going on the 8-59 career record I wouldn't even bet against him reaching 20 basho eventually, sadly. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 20,213 Posted January 24, 2013 (edited) Catchup: Day 9 brought some 2-2 "playoffs" indeed, as Daishohama and Mihamaumi improved to 3-2 at the expense of fellow club members Sadaisamu and Komatsu. Another internal bout took place on Day 10 at 1-3 in which Kotouruga was victorious over Miyakojima, sending the latter to his 6th makekoshi. Azumayama also fell to MK, while Chibahibiki somewhat unexpectedly improved to 3-2 despite his jonidan ranking, and Rikiyushi dropped to 2-3. And we have a kachikoshi to celebrate! (Zabuton flying...) Daishohama scored the crucial 4th win on Day 11, and didn't even need another club member as his opponent - then again his actual opponent Yamada escaped our clutches just barely (1-7, 0-7, 4-3 to avoid joining us in 2011, since then 8 straight MK). Chibahibiki and Mihamaumi weren't so fortunate and are back to even at 3-3. They're joined in having a final-round KK opportunity by Rikiyushi (his very first) who prevailed over club compatriot Komatsu in a 2-3 matchup, so Komatsu is now also MK, as are Kotouruga and Sadaisamu after losses of their own. Edited January 24, 2013 by Asashosakari 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 20,213 Posted January 26, 2013 Nope, no further KKs this basho, all three contenders lost...Rikiyushi at the hands of Moriurara, of all people. Chibahibiki has upped his futility counter to 0-15 - I wouldn't be surprised if that's an all-time record by now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 20,213 Posted January 27, 2013 (edited) Only two rikishi ended up winning their final bout of the basho with Komatsu and Sadaisamu, both beating other club members (Kotouruga and Miyakojima). Final standings for Hatsu: Shikona Heya Debut MK Current Rank Highest Rank Record Win% Last Basho This Basho Azumayama Tamanoi Natsu 2010 15 Jonokuchi 7 West Jonidan 100 23-82 0.219 2-5 2-5 Chibahibiki Shikihide Natsu 2011 10 Jonidan 97 West Jonidan 97 28-42 0.400 3-4 3-4 Daishohama Oitekaze Natsu 2011 9 Jonokuchi 7 East Jonidan 100 25-47 0.347 2-5 4-3 Okino Hakkaku Natsu 2011 10 Jonokuchi 11 East Jonokuchi 11 9-61 0.129 1-6 1-6 Miyakojima Minezaki Hatsu 2012 6 Jonokuchi 8 West Jonidan 107 11-31 0.262 2-5 1-6 Kotouruga Sadogatake Haru 2012 5 Jonokuchi 9 East Jonokuchi 6 10-25 0.286 2-5 2-5 Rikiyushi Minezaki Haru 2012 5 Jonokuchi 10 East Jonokuchi 9 9-26 0.257 2-5 3-4 Komatsu Kise Natsu 2012 4 Jonokuchi 3 West Jonokuchi 1 12-16 0.429 3-4 3-4 Mihamaumi Tamanoi Natsu 2012 4 Jonokuchi 4 East Jonokuchi 3 11-17 0.393 3-4 3-4 Sadaisamu Sakaigawa Natsu 2012 4 Jonokuchi 10 West Jonokuchi 8 7-22 0.241 1-7 3-4 Tsurufuji Isegahama Kyushu 2011 3 Banzuke-gai Jonidan 100 6-15-14 0.286 0-0-7 --- I never thought it would be possible to collect 10 MK with a .400 winning rate... We might have a few more rikishi in jonidan for March as the Kyokai will probably be keen to get the division back to 100 ranks thanks to the relatively large intake of shindeshi (if the number of retirements allows it), and 3-4 in high jonokuchi may result in a lucky promotion. Good to see all three club newcomers finish 3-4, especially Sadaisamu who had only 4 wins in the previous three basho combined. And congrats again to Daishohama for making his escape - as often seems to happen, he did it right before moving into double digits. Chibahibiki and Okino weren't so fortunate, however. Okino has made it to 10 MK without ever scoring 3 wins in a basho - the last three rikishi to 'achieve' that were Morikawa (38 MK), Daishiryu (25 MK) and active member Azumayama (15 and counting), so we might be waiting a bit longer for Okino's breakthrough. Speaking of breakthroughs, a special shout-out to former club member Daikosei who achieved a splendid 6-1 record this basho. Not bad for somebody who once started his career with 21 straight losses and 11 MK... See you again for Haru basho! (Bye, bye...) Edited January 27, 2013 by Asashosakari 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akaikeinfo 7 Posted January 27, 2013 If Kotooshu is the king of 8-7 (yes, he got 10 this basho), then poor Chibahibiki is the prince of 3-4. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 20,213 Posted March 11, 2013 Well, Tsurufuji called it quits after Hatsu basho so we're down to 9 members for now. Lineup for Haru 2013: Shikona Heya Debut MK Current Rank Highest Rank Record Win% Last Basho Azumayama Tamanoi Natsu 2010 15 Jonidan 93 West Jonidan 93 23-82 0.219 2-5 Chibahibiki Shikihide Natsu 2011 10 Jonidan 84 West Jonidan 84 28-42 0.400 3-4 Okino Hakkaku Natsu 2011 10 Jonokuchi 2 East Jonokuchi 2 9-61 0.129 1-6 Miyakojima Minezaki Hatsu 2012 6 Jonokuchi 1 West Jonidan 107 11-31 0.262 1-6 Kotouruga Sadogatake Haru 2012 5 Jonidan 94 East Jonidan 94 10-25 0.286 2-5 Rikiyushi Minezaki Haru 2012 5 Jonidan 90 West Jonidan 90 9-26 0.257 3-4 Komatsu Kise Natsu 2012 4 Jonidan 88 West Jonidan 88 12-16 0.429 3-4 Mihamaumi Tamanoi Natsu 2012 4 Jonidan 89 West Jonidan 89 11-17 0.393 3-4 Sadaisamu Sakaigawa Natsu 2012 4 Jonidan 91 East Jonidan 91 7-22 0.241 3-4 Chibahibiki's 3-4 at the bottom of jonidan earned him another (fairly large) promotion thanks to the long January intai list, and five other club members (the bottom five in the list) scored jonidan debuts out of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 20,213 Posted March 13, 2013 Intriguing results so far, quite unlike most tournaments - our persisters have scored 4x 2-0, 4x 0-2 and just one 1-1. Thanks to all the 3-4's last basho many of them are ranked relatively far from all the strong shindeshi so for now they've mostly avoided bad matchups. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 20,213 Posted March 17, 2013 Day 8: Shikona Heya Debut MK Current Rank Highest Rank Record Win% Last Basho This Basho Azumayama Tamanoi Natsu 2010 15 Jonidan 93 West Jonidan 93 24-85 0.220 2-5 1-3 Chibahibiki Shikihide Natsu 2011 10 Jonidan 84 West Jonidan 84 29-45 0.392 3-4 1-3 Okino Hakkaku Natsu 2011 11 Jonokuchi 2 East Jonokuchi 2 9-65 0.122 1-6 0-4 Miyakojima Minezaki Hatsu 2012 6 Jonokuchi 1 West Jonidan 107 13-33 0.283 1-6 2-2 Kotouruga Sadogatake Haru 2012 5 Jonidan 94 East Jonidan 94 12-27 0.308 2-5 2-2 Rikiyushi Minezaki Haru 2012 5 Jonidan 90 West Jonidan 90 12-27 0.308 3-4 3-1 Komatsu Kise Natsu 2012 4 Jonidan 88 West Jonidan 88 15-17 0.469 3-4 3-1 Mihamaumi Tamanoi Natsu 2012 4 Jonidan 89 West Jonidan 89 14-18 0.438 3-4 3-1 Sadaisamu Sakaigawa Natsu 2012 5 Jonidan 91 East Jonidan 91 7-26 0.212 3-4 0-4 Better than in January. :-) I think we're even guaranteed a KK graduate as Komatsu and Rikiyushi should be facing each other on Day 10 if I'm seeing it correctly. Unsurprisingly our three longest-tenured rikishi are headed to another MK, or already there in the case of Okino. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fay 1,677 Posted March 17, 2013 (edited) Mihamaumi is extremely motivated this basho. I'm going to bet a bottle of prosecco for a kachikoshi! Edited March 20, 2013 by Fay Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fay 1,677 Posted March 20, 2013 And yes, yes, yes (Zabuton flying...) Kachi koshi for Mihamaumi !!! Omedetou !!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 20,213 Posted March 20, 2013 (edited) And he's not the only one, either. :-) Catching up... Day 9: Top-ranked Chibahibiki kept his slight KK chances alive and improved to 2-3, while Okino and Sadaisamu both lost their 5th. Day 10: Kachikoshi for Komatsu! As predicted he and Rikiyushi faced off with the winning record on the line, and favourite Komatsu came out victorious. His departure from the club was arguably just a matter of time after starting his career with four consecutive 3-4's - not exactly a pattern we see in longer-tenured persisters. Mihamaumi missed out in his first KK opportunity of the basho here, Kotouruga and Miyakojima fell to 2-3, and persist-gashira Azumayama went MK in an unfortunate matchup against sandanme-strength Tanahashi returning from injury. Day 11: And this time he did it, Mihamaumi joined the KK club. Not a half-bad opponent either with Kotoomura. Rikiyushi on the other hand missed his second matchball, also against a Sadogatake rikishi (but one more than twice as old as Kotoomura). Chibahibiki is MK after all now, and Azumayama and Sadaisamu collected further losses as well. Kotouruga and Miyakojima will meet in a MK-avoidance bout on Day 12. Edited March 20, 2013 by Asashosakari Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fay 1,677 Posted March 20, 2013 and that's the young happy man, Mihamaumi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 20,213 Posted March 21, 2013 Day 12: The MK avoider was won by Kotouruga who secured himself his first-ever KK opportunity with that. Miyakojima on the other hand is MK with his loss and continues to wait for his first shot at kachikoshi. Okino lost another one to drop to 0-6, joining fellow club member Sadaisamu in winless-before-the-final-bout territory. Better hope none of the kyujo rikishi show up for Day 13, or they might both fall to 0-7... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 20,213 Posted March 22, 2013 Day 13: Bad scheduling luck for our three worst-scoring rikishi of the basho - Okino and Azumayama were placed against upper jonidan-strength injury returnees and unsurprisingly lost to finish 0-7 and 1-6 respectively, and while Sadaisamu did draw another 0-6 rikishi it was also one from the other end of jonidan so he too fell to 0-7. Mihamaumi lost as well to finish his basho at 4-3, while Chibahibiki improved to his trusty 3-4 record at the last minute. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fay 1,677 Posted March 23, 2013 aaaaaaaaaaaah Kotouruga ... another MK :'-( (what are these bugs with the emoticons recently? I mean this :'-(​ ) I care for Sadogatake rikishi anyway but it's time for a personal treatment à la Kotomyozan. So I predict a KK in May 2013. Ganbatteeeee! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 20,213 Posted March 23, 2013 Yup, sadly both Kotouruga and Rikiyushi lost today and finish 3-4, leaving us with two graduations in the end. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 20,213 Posted March 24, 2013 Komatsu and Miyakojima finish off the basho with losses, and now we're all done here.Final standings for Haru 2013: Shikona Heya Debut MK Current Rank Highest Rank Record Win% Last Basho This Basho Azumayama Tamanoi Natsu 2010 16 Jonidan 93 West Jonidan 93 24-88 0.214 2-5 1-6 Chibahibiki Shikihide Natsu 2011 11 Jonidan 84 West Jonidan 84 31-46 0.403 3-4 3-4 Okino Hakkaku Natsu 2011 11 Jonokuchi 2 East Jonokuchi 2 9-68 0.117 1-6 0-7 Miyakojima Minezaki Hatsu 2012 7 Jonokuchi 1 West Jonidan 107 13-36 0.265 1-6 2-5 Kotouruga Sadogatake Haru 2012 6 Jonidan 94 East Jonidan 94 13-29 0.310 2-5 3-4 Rikiyushi Minezaki Haru 2012 6 Jonidan 90 West Jonidan 90 12-30 0.286 3-4 3-4 Komatsu Kise Natsu 2012 4 Jonidan 88 West Jonidan 88 16-19 0.457 3-4 4-3 Mihamaumi Tamanoi Natsu 2012 4 Jonidan 89 West Jonidan 89 15-20 0.429 3-4 4-3 Sadaisamu Sakaigawa Natsu 2012 5 Jonidan 91 East Jonidan 91 7-29 0.194 3-4 0-7 It certainly looks like we'll have to wait a while longer for breakout performances from Azumayama and Okino, and Sadaisamu is also back to futility after his surprise 3-win record in January. With the Hatsu and Haru shindeshi classes arriving we're probably unlikely to see further graduations at least in Natsu and Nagoya...maybe except Chibahibiki whose princely estates of the Three-Four surely will have to stop expanding at some point. (Right?) So, good on Komatsu and Mihamaumi for staging their escapes while the environment was still favourable for it. Too bad Rikiyushi wasn't able to follow suit - falling from 3-0 to 3-4 has to rate as a big disappointment to the Minezaki youngster.One free locker is immediately filled again courtesy of this new entrant: Shikona Heya Debut MK Current Rank Highest Rank Record Win% 2012.11 2013.01 2013.03 Miyamoto Naruto Aki 2012 3 Jonokuchi 1 East Jonokuchi 1 3-18 0.143 0-7 2-5 1-6 He's probably going to stay with us for a while.Back again in May! (Bye, bye...) 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fay 1,677 Posted May 14, 2013 Kotouruga started good but lost today against Oshio. Time to start the personal treatment ... ;-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 20,213 Posted May 18, 2013 (edited) Belated Natsu 2013 lineup: Shikona Heya Debut MK Current Rank Highest Rank Record Win% Last Basho Azumayama Tamanoi Natsu 2010 16 Jonidan 98 West Jonidan 93 24-88 0.214 1-6 Chibahibiki Shikihide Natsu 2011 11 Jonidan 84 East Jonidan 84 31-46 0.403 3-4 Okino Hakkaku Natsu 2011 11 Jonokuchi 24 East Jonokuchi 2 9-68 0.117 0-7 Miyakojima Minezaki Hatsu 2012 7 Jonidan 97 West Jonidan 97 13-36 0.265 2-5 Rikiyushi Minezaki Haru 2012 6 Jonidan 88 East Jonidan 88 12-30 0.286 3-4 Kotouruga Sadogatake Haru 2012 6 Jonidan 89 West Jonidan 89 13-29 0.310 3-4 Sadaisamu Sakaigawa Natsu 2012 5 Jonokuchi 4 East Jonidan 91 7-29 0.194 0-7 Miyamoto Naruto Aki 2012 3 Jonokuchi 1 East Jonokuchi 1 3-18 0.143 1-6 Back-to-back jonidan appearances for most club members. Edited May 18, 2013 by Asashosakari 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 20,213 Posted May 20, 2013 Day 8: Not the most thrilling exploits so far. Shikona Heya Debut MK Current Rank Highest Rank Record Win% Last Basho This Basho Azumayama Tamanoi Natsu 2010 16 Jonidan 98 West Jonidan 93 25-91 0.216 1-6 1-3 Chibahibiki Shikihide Natsu 2011 11 Jonidan 84 East Jonidan 84 32-49 0.395 3-4 1-3 Okino Hakkaku Natsu 2011 11 Jonokuchi 24 East Jonokuchi 2 11-70 0.136 0-7 2-2 Miyakojima Minezaki Hatsu 2012 7 Jonidan 97 West Jonidan 97 14-39 0.264 2-5 1-3 Rikiyushi Minezaki Haru 2012 7 Jonidan 88 East Jonidan 88 12-34 0.261 3-4 0-4 Kotouruga Sadogatake Haru 2012 6 Jonidan 89 West Jonidan 89 14-32 0.304 3-4 1-3 Sadaisamu Sakaigawa Natsu 2012 6 Jonokuchi 4 East Jonidan 91 7-33 0.175 0-7 0-4 Miyamoto Naruto Aki 2012 3 Jonokuchi 1 East Jonokuchi 1 5-20 0.200 1-6 2-2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aderechelsea 125 Posted May 20, 2013 Okino ... leading the group. :-O he needs to send his thanks to the torikumi committee for picking Kaikoki as his opponent a fews day ago and even against Terumichi he had the best possible grip for an easy win but he managed to make it look sooooo messy it hurt my sleep-deprived eyes. Hakkaku to improve their "scouting" methods. (i doubt there is such a think as a scouter in Hakkaku). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 20,213 Posted May 21, 2013 Day 9: Losses for Azumayama, Miyakojima and Okino, sending the first two to makekoshi and Okino to the brink of it. Day 10: Chibahibiki and Kotouruga join Okino at 2-3, but via wins. Miyamoto was also successful and improved to 3-2 in an excellent bout of two rikishi whose combined weight doesn't match that of the average makuuchi rikishi: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNWRzZIRpjE 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akaikeinfo 7 Posted May 23, 2013 (edited) No one's out yet, but we've got some guys at 3-3 going into their last bout. Okino's already managed the best basho of his career with his first time at three wins. The schedule maker has been awfully kind to him so far, as he's beaten three weak newcomers in Kaikoki (0-6), Terumichi (2-4), and Sakai (2-4). All three of these guys, particulary Kaikoki, might be future fixtures of the persistence list. He'll probably have to beat someone a bit stronger if he's to get his KK. Miyamoto lost yesterday in his first chance of his career for KK, but he gets one more chance. Maybe they can give us Miyamoto vs Okino! In low Jonidan, both Kotouraga and Chibahibiki have rebounded from slow starts to get to 3-3 and have a chance. Kotouraga has won 2 in a row and Chibahibiki has come all the way back from an 0-3 start to show us why he's the "Prince of 3-4". As we know, Chiba has a terrible record of futility in going for that elusive fourth win. Maybe they can give us Kotouraga vs Chibahibiki! EDIT: Kotouraga got Honda (also 3-3) on Day 13 and he's 0-1 in his career against him. None of the other three have matches on Day 13. I'm especially rooting for Okino (because I don't think he'll ever have a better chance--he got so lucky with his opponents this time) and Chibahibiki (because I think he's a little too good for this list and needs to get the monkey off his back). Edited May 23, 2013 by akaikeinfo 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 20,213 Posted May 23, 2013 (edited) Okino's already managed the best basho of his career with his first time at three wins. The schedule maker has been awfully kind to him so far, as he's beaten three weak newcomers in Kaikoki (0-6), Terumichi (2-4), and Sakai (2-4). All three of these guys, particulary Kaikoki, might be future fixtures of the persistence list. He'll probably have to beat someone a bit stronger if he's to get his KK. His 0-7 last basho was very timely, things don't get much easier than being ranked with the worst of a Haru shindeshi crowd. I think Chibahibiki will get Moriurara (of all people...) for his final bout, but the full final-round schedule seems quite messy from around Jd70 to jonokuchi so I'm not too sure I've "read" it right. Edited May 23, 2013 by Asashosakari 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
