Mark Buckton 1 Posted October 30, 2003 Tatsutagawa-beya? - can any of you far wiser chaps out there confirm whether or not a place under this name and under the watchful eye of a former rikishi named (I believe) Kagamisato existed once in the Idabashi area of northern(ish) Tokyo? Trying to sort out a conversation with a Japanese friend who said it was near his house but has now vanished. Thanks Also, whilst you are in historical mode - any info on a Juryo man with the 'real?' name of Seki-san. Died in his 20s in about the late 1970s or early 80s. - another friend's uncle but now forgotten they say. Oodles of appreciation for info ANR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 20,223 Posted October 31, 2003 (edited) Tatsutagawa-beya? - can any of you far wiser chaps out there confirm whether or not a place under this name and under the watchful eye of a former rikishi named (I believe) Kagamisato existed once in the Idabashi area of northern(ish) Tokyo? I'll pick the first question, and take the cheap way out by quoting the current Banzuke Topics which remark (on the occasion of Toyozakura's Makuuchi debut): Toyozakura originally joined former Sekiwake Aonosato's Tatsutagawa Beya (absorbed into the present Michinoku Beya following the 2000 September Grand Sumo Tournament with the mandatory retirement of Tatsutagawa Oyakata). Toyozakura is the third alumni of that heya to make the top division following Shikishima (Nishikijima Oyakata) and Jumonji, promoted to Makuuchi for the first time for the 2000 May Grand Sumo Tournament. No idea on the other question, I'm afraid Juryo rikishi of the 1970's are wayyy out of my league... (Applauding...) Edited October 31, 2003 by Asashosakari Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Buckton 1 Posted October 31, 2003 Tatsutagawa-beya? - can any of you far wiser chaps out there confirm whether or not a place under this name and under the watchful eye of a former rikishi named (I believe) Kagamisato existed once in the Idabashi area of northern(ish) Tokyo? I'll pick the first question, and take the cheap way out by quoting the current Banzuke Topics which remark (on the occasion of Toyozakura's Makuuchi debut): Toyozakura originally joined former Sekiwake Aonosato's Tatsutagawa Beya (absorbed into the present Michinoku Beya following the 2000 September Grand Sumo Tournament with the mandatory retirement of Tatsutagawa Oyakata). Toyozakura is the third alumni of that heya to make the top division following Shikishima (Nishikijima Oyakata) and Jumonji, promoted to Makuuchi for the first time for the 2000 May Grand Sumo Tournament. No idea on the other question, I'm afraid Juryo rikishi of the 1970's are wayyy out of my league... (Applauding...) Thank you very much for this info - very very useful. Stupid me though for missing it on the BT threads. Thanks again ANR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yubiquitoyama 4 Posted October 31, 2003 Tatsutagawa-beya? - can any of you far wiser chaps out there confirm whether or not a place under this name and under the watchful eye of a former rikishi named (I believe) Kagamisato existed once in the Idabashi area of northern(ish) Tokyo? Trying to sort out a conversation with a Japanese friend who said it was near his house but has now vanished. Thanks Also, whilst you are in historical mode - any info on a Juryo man with the 'real?' name of Seki-san. Died in his 20s in about the late 1970s or early 80s. - another friend's uncle but now forgotten they say. Oodles of appreciation for info ANR Do you have ANY more information on this alledged Juryo rikishi. Shikona, heya, full real name? There doesn't seem to have been any Seki in Juryo during the 70s or 80s, but it might be me who have misread kanji for that matter. (Applauding...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Buckton 1 Posted October 31, 2003 Yubi-san Do you have ANY more information on this alledged Juryo rikishi. Shikona, heya, full real name? There doesn't seem to have been any Seki in Juryo during the 70s or 80s, but it might be me who have misread kanji for that matter. The only other thing I can say is that he was based in Kawaguchi, Saitama ken and died having retired very young - 20s - ill health. Sorry nothing more. ANR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yubiquitoyama 4 Posted October 31, 2003 Yubi-sanDo you have ANY more information on this alledged Juryo rikishi. Shikona, heya, full real name? There doesn't seem to have been any Seki in Juryo during the 70s or 80s, but it might be me who have misread kanji for that matter. The only other thing I can say is that he was based in Kawaguchi, Saitama ken and died having retired very young - 20s - ill health. Sorry nothing more. ANR It could well be ex-Ushiwakamaru of Isegahama-beya. I had him listed as Satoshi Eguchi, but I can't find my kanji-source right now, and I well suspect it was possibly Seki. He was born 5th of May 1956, started sumo in Aki of 1970 and was in Juryo 1977.03 to 1978.01. He reached a top-rank of Juryo-8 in Kyushu 1977 and retired in March of 1978 22 years old. He was apparently from Saitama-ken too and was a tsuki-oshi rikishi at 176 cm and about 120kg. I don't have info about a pre-mature death though, but I don't have any such info about any Juryo rikishi. The pics are from the early part of 1978. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kotoseiya Yuichi 3 Posted October 31, 2003 I'm willing to bet Yubi has a separate room for all his sumo material. It can't be kept in a single bookshelf any more... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yoavoshimaru 0 Posted October 31, 2003 (Applauding...) ;-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Buckton 1 Posted October 31, 2003 Yubi-san, You are 'da' man. What can I say - brilliant info and come next week, hopefully something that will jog my friend's memory. How the devil do you get this info so quickly - and with pics? Thanks again and if anymore info comes to light I'll let you know. ANR the humbled. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 20,223 Posted October 31, 2003 How the devil do you get this info so quickly - and with pics? I'm suspecting cybernetic brain implants, personally. (Applauding...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
