Ossetian fighter

[yoda 0]

Watch this:

Is this guy now in sumo? His name, Alan Karaev, sounds somewhat familiar.

[aderechelsea 125]

Sumo World Champion recently ...

watch the videos here

[yoda 0]

Sumo World Champion recently ...

watch the videos here

So, he is not one of those in Ozumo?

[aderechelsea 125]

apparently .... nope

[kaiguma 0]

His name, Alan Karaev, sounds somewhat familiar.

Alan Gambaraev is the Ossetian now pushing into upper Makushita...

Okay, couldn't help myself there: I think that's actually Alan Gabaraev; shikona is Aran.

[Ossetian Yokozuna 1]

yoda -

You are confused slitely.

There is Alan KARAEV in video, AMATEUR sumo wrestler ( and armwrestler ).

( And there are four another ossetians in OZUMO. )

[yoda 0]

yoda -

You are confused slitely.

There is Alan KARAEV in video, AMATEUR sumo wrestler ( and armwrestler ).

( And there are four another ossetians in OZUMO. )

I see. Looks like Ossetia can provide steady flow of sumotoris.

[Ossetian Yokozuna 1]

yoda -

You are right.

It will be very easy to fined out several hundreds excellant rikishis in OSSETIA at this moment, and among them at least 100 men with height 200CM and weight +120KG.

[yoda 0]

yoda -

You are right.

It will be very easy to fined out several hundreds excellant rikishis in OSSETIA at this moment, and among them at least 100 men with height 200CM and weight +120KG.

Can you name few if there are world famous free style, greco-roman, or judo wrestlers from Ossetia? I know soviets, and russians had many, but few of them could be of Ossetian origin.

[Ossetian Yokozuna 1]

yoda -

Ok.

Nowadays ossetians Free Stile Olimpic and World Champions -

Artur TAIMAZOV

Khadzhimurad GATSALOV

Georgii KETOEV

Irbek FARNIEV

Ibragim ALDATOV

Besik KUDUKHOV

Alan DUDAEV

..................

and so on.

Khasan BAROEV in Greco-Roman.

Tamerlan TMENOV in judo.

.......................

And many, many names ...

[yoda 0]

Wow! Quite a few.

Thanks for the list.

[Ossetian Yokozuna 1]

yoda -

I have fogoten to add -

http://ossetians.com/eng/index.php?showcat...e83ff4d05526a9c

http://ossetians.com/eng/index.php?showcat...e83ff4d05526a9c

Here is some additional names.

( Pardon me for a little offtopic. )

[Ikh Mongol Dagvadorj 0]

yoda -

I have fogoten to add -

http://ossetians.com/eng/index.php?showcat...e83ff4d05526a9c

It is really impressive number: 12 Olympic Champions in various kind of wrestling. In Ossetia (North and South) , is there any special national/ traditional wrestling school that produce those wrestlers?

With 700 thousand people small nation like Mongolia got more Olympic gold than Mongolia which has none, yet called country of wrestlers

[yoda 0]

I agree. This is very impressive number. Wonder like Ikh, if there is special national wrestling of sort?

[Ikh Mongol Dagvadorj 0]

I agree. This is very impressive number. Wonder like Ikh, if there is special national wrestling of sort?

I guess most of the Soviet and Russian best wrestlers are Ossetians.

I did some google search., did not find any significant tradition of wrestling, wrestling school or wrestling competition like Mongolian Naadam. But everywhere It says Ossetians love to wrestle from their childhood. Freestyle wrestling is almost their national N#1 sport. Ancestors of Ossetians, Alans had traditional wrestling called "kabyshei hast" . No tmuch information on that

I wonder if did Ossetians had any contact with Mongols? I hope Mongols get some Olympic Gold when Sumo become Olympic Sport

Edited November 28, 2007 by Ikh Mongol Dagvadorj

[Ossetian Yokozuna 1]

Ikh Mongol Dagvadorj -

yoda -

No.

There is not any national wrestling in OSSETIA now.

It will be difficalt to show in a few words the base of succes of our wrestlers.

First of all I should point out that competition spirit in ossetians is in a very high level.

[Bealzbob 0]

Pussy.

[Ossetian Yokozuna 1]

Bealzbob -

What do you speack about?

( Dont drink so much wisky. )

[Bealzbob 0]

( Dont drink so much wisky. )

You caught me :-P I am currently drunk. But I still think Karaev (and all these guys (including Emalieanenko)) are not what they're cracked up to be. A trained and tuned Asashoryu would rip them to pieces IMHO.

[Ossetian Yokozuna 1]

Bealzbob -

May be you are right.

Alan is untrained also.

( See video. )

[yoda 0]

But I still think Karaev (and all these guys (including Emalieanenko)) are not what they're cracked up to be. A trained and tuned Asashoryu would rip them to pieces IMHO.

Easy to see you are locked.

Emelianenko Fedor is in a different league from not just Alan Karaev but every other fighter on the planet. Rikishi make rubbish MMA fighters because they have no stamina for long high intensity aerobic activity and can't seem to overcome the habits drilled into them in sumo.

Asashoryu against Fedor who be a KO for the latter inside 30 seconds.

Can you point me to his fights? Where I can see them?

[aderechelsea 125]

i am with Nishi on this one .... that guy is out of this planet ...

:-P

[yoda 0]

i am with Nishi on this one .... that guy is out of this planet ...

:-P

Well, after looking at his fights he sure is a seasoned athlete. He is good puncher and his main weapon is his judo and sambo techniques.

But I doubt if he could inflict much damage to likes of Ama. After all, sumo is a professional sport and if they go out on the ring in their usual form, it should at least result in some damage. Ama is heard doing 40 bouts everyday as training, plus butsugari session etc. Take that each bout, hatakikomi, tsuppari, chocking and so on, and body slam to the ground for about 20 mins. So, I don't see Fedor doing much against him, and Ama is the lightest in sanyaku. I wouldn't even talk about likes of Asashoryu and Hakuho here.

So, what you guys think?

[yoda 0]

I have an idea. Lets just try to construct fighting scene between Fedor and Ama, round by round. I will throw a starting scene and you guys can develop it further.

Fedor 106 kg, 182 cm -- Ama 123kg, 185 cm.

Superior puncher Superior tsuppari, harite

Judo, Sambo techniques Sumo, Mongolian wrestling techniques

Superior submission techniques Body slam techniques

Stamina Stamina

Round 1:

- Aware of Fedor's super punching skills, Ama starts cautious, defending his head and watches him closely

- Aware of Ama's agility and superior strength, Fedor avoids getting too close, or cornered.

- Fedor throws few probing punches towards Ama, looking for possible openings and Ama tests his defence against Fedor

- Ama throws his own punches, testing Fedor's movements. Fedor circles around to distract Ama's defence and Ama, in turn, stays put, waiting for a right moment to charge.

- Fedor makes nifty hook and uppers swings, Ama counters with his tight defense. His physical strength helps to endure Fedor's punishing punches. Then charges with his own straights the moment Fedor paused his attack. Fedor avoids the punches, but Ama makes it tsuppari to the chest and charges on. The fighters reach the ring and starts wrestling ...

[aderechelsea 125]

again ... sorry ... no competition.

submission techniques or a serious KO punch always win fights like that.

Ama can deliver none of these.

There is no possible tsuppari/harite/nodowa that can KO Fedor. I could bet my house on a fight like that.

some sports just have too much advantages when it comes to mixed martial fights. Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and the original Muay Thai are just too much for athletes of other disciplines. Maybe a boxer could throw a serious punch in the first couple of seconds and finish the bout but if it comes to ground fight (which always does) the jiu jitsu guy is the winner.