Asashosakari 20,323 Posted Monday at 21:54 58 minutes ago, Hakumadashi said: I tried to search Sumodb for the latest cases of [draws] and found this https://sumodb.sumogames.de/Results.aspx?b=195703&d=1 (the last bout on the page) Was there a rule that Makushita rikishi fighting in Juryo got a hikiwake when "losing" the bout? Or is this a sumodb error? Did they just always get a hikiwake? (Surely not, that would make Yaocho incredibly incentivised...) Some gremlins have got into the data here. Specifically: Ms2e Tamakaze 0-0-1 (3-3-2) yorikiri 0-1 (1-1) J23w Notonoyama 1-0 (9-6) The draw marker makes no sense for Tamakaze here, should be a regular loss. In addition, neither his hoshitori nor his total record appear to be correct: Day 1 yorikiri J23w Notonoyama 1-0 (9-6) 0-1 Day 13 kotenage J19e Tsugaruumi 1-12 (3-12) 1-0 That Day 1 bout doesn't appear on there in any way. Gans (site currently down, link goes to archive.org) shows Tamakaze's score as 4-4, with that additional Day 1 loss in the hoshitori as well as an additional win on Day 12 - prior to the second juryo visit which constituted his eighth and final appearance of the tournament. That makes sense as the "rounds" of makushita matches were on Days 12/13 and Days 14/15 in those days. The 4-4 overall score also agrees better with his subsequent banzuke movement: Result East Next Rank West Result Next 5-3 ↑ Tatsumusashi J22e Ms1 Matsuba 3-5 Ms4e 3-3-2 Tamakaze Ms1e Ms2 Itsutsugata 4-4 Ms1w Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 20,323 Posted yesterday at 02:42 A Nikkan article about Aonishiki's time training with the Kansai University sumo club mentions that Chisatoiwa was a second Kansai graduate to join ozumo (after sekiwake and yusho winner Yamanishiki). Confirmed by the club's own web presence (1959 entry). And it made me wonder if the (unconfirmed) Chisatoiwa reading of his shikona 千里岩 might be wrong. Kansai University has a campus called Senriyama 千里山, whose name appears to be taken from a Senriyama mountain - however, apparently that mountain's name used to be read Chisatoyama, which long ago gave its name to a (no longer independently existing) village named Chisatoyama, which is the area in which today's Senriyama campus is located. So, clear as mud, and on a quick search I haven't been able to turn up any concrete information about which reading the guy's shikona was using, Chisato or Senri. Maybe somebody else can find something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites