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At this rate, it's unlikely he'll retire before next tournament, correct?

It may be an unpopular opinion, but i've always thought the shikona Hakuho gives his deshi tend to be... something else, to say the least...

So who's going down? I only count Kiryuko and Otsuji.

I know we're getting a bit off topic now, but why wouldn't Harumafuji have branched out if either of those things happened?

That's exactly what I was thinking in my head, but I couldn't figure out the right words, thank you! :)

Unless i'm mistaken, Hoshoryu is the first Yokozuna since Maedayama to be promoted from lower than O1e, without any Ozeki above him being promoted as well. Although, the Banzuke weren't made back then with the strict rule of the Ozeki being sorted in order of their record the previous basho. Maedayama still had the best performance in both of his promotion tournaments. The most recent yokozuna before Hoshoryu to be promoted without having the best score out of all Ozeki in both tournaments leading up to their promotion (again, discounting double-promotions) was Nishinoumi III, promoted over a century ago in 1923.

I know you asked Asashosakari and not myself, but I was under the impression that it had to be unanimous no matter what.

Damn, you're right! I had only remembered that both were in 1992..

Interestingly enough, today marks exactly six years since Kisenosato retired, iirc. And additionally, the last Yokozuna who's retirement left the banzuke completely devoid of Yokozuna, was none other than Asahifuji.

Shodai gets an 8-7 yusho where all his matches end in an ipponzeoi.

I'm not sure this is worthy of being posted here. But so far, both times a nephew of Asashoryu has joined, a relative of a different Yokozuna has as well. Hoshoryu/Oho (Taiho's Grandson), and now the new nephew with Musashimaru's nephew.

So, is he Hoshoryu's brother, or Hoshoryu's cousin?

Those are called Haori. I don't know that much about Japanese culture outside of sumo wrestling, but those are usually what the Oyakata and high ranking rikishi use as more traditional formal wear, to my knowledge.

He went in, and now goes out, with Myogiryu...

To make matters worse, I've just learned he was a Maegashira himself...

Dear god, i completely misunderstood the post... I've never seen either of their fathers and i thought he was celebrating Abi's henka!

This man exudes "Abi's dad".

And by the looks of it, he's only lost the fat... Very impressive!

Well, that's because we are. An unprecedented number of this generation's rikishi had their careers ruined through scandal and/or injury... or at least it seems that way...

I've heard a rumour that Kirishima is (unsurprisingly) kyujo, but i haven't found a source to back it up. Anyone else?

If being a Takayasu fan is this bad... imagine being Takayasu himself...

https://www.nikkansports.com/battle/sumo/news/202404110000240.html This is the only source i've seen so far. But i believe it's credible. The first foreign yokozuna has passed on. Heart failure, apparently.

Oh i know, but iirc Shimanoumi is the most common example to use for this type of scenario. I would favor a banzuke with larger demotions and promotions that work around that, but then again i'm not the one making the banzuke

I'm not the biggest fan of the new "status quo" way they've arranged the banzuke recently (trying to keep everyone as close to their previous rank as possible.) Shimanoumi down just two ranks with a 5-10 is outrageous.

According to sumodb there is no Chiyomatsu... Would anyone happen to know who this article is referring to?