Doitsuyama 1,259 Posted March 13, 2003 The three former Komusubi in upper Makushita all looked really weak to me. Chiyotenzan looked the weakest to me despite him winning, but his bout against Kotokanyu was not worthy of a real dohyo. A real high class bout was Uchida winning against Tanaka, both rikishi were very strong and technically good. Uchida could just avoid defeat and turn the outcome around. He is 3-0 now as several other rikishi including young Mongolian Ama. Nadatsukasa appeared for his first bout this basho with a HUGE bandage over his right knee. He simply overpowered his opponent despite barely able to walk after the bout. The young and light Toyonoshima was no match for Yoshiazuma who is quite tall; maybe Toyonoshima isn't ready yet for the upper Makushita. His "classmate" Kotokikutsugi got the first win this basho. -- Doitsuyama Jonokuchi Jk30w Toshiazuma (2-1) yorikiri Jk33e Asaosodo (0-3) Jk30e Kusuazuma (3-0) hatakikomi Jk32w Hatanaka (1-2) Jk28w Katsunofuji (3-0) yorikiri Jk34e Anju (2-1) Jk26w Nagai (2-1) yorikiri Jk27w Usui (1-2) Jk27e Ono (3-0) okuridashi Jk23w Wakaizumi (2-1) Jk24w Matsushita (2-1) oshidashi Jk22e Itsunoshima (1-2) Jk19w Anshinryu (3-0) abisetaoshi Jk20e Kotokaneko (2-1) Jk17e Oishikawa (2-1) yorikiri Jk18w Daiikeda (1-2) Jk16w Tani (2-1) oshitaoshi Jk13w Kohakuzan (1-2) Jk12e Tominoumi (1-2) uwatenage Jk14e Daishiyama (0-3) Jk11e Daiogi (3-0) uwatenage Jk15w Kitatsuyoshi (2-1) Jk7w Hidanosato (2-1) okuridashi Jk9e Chichii (1-2) Jk8e Maenoshima (3-0) kainahineri Jk5e Kotobuki (2-1) Jk6e Daishokaku (2-1) yorikiri Jk3e Osada (1-2) Jk1e Kushimanami (3-0) okuridashi Jk4e Iwata (2-1) Jonidan Jd106e Kirinobori (2-1) hatakikomi Jd104e Sawada (1-2) Jd102e Hayatefuji (1-2) oshidashi Jd105w Hokutotsukasa (0-3) Jd100e Fujitayama (2-1) yorikiri Jd98w Sakurajima (1-2) Jd99e Kasuganami (1-2) yoritaoshi Jd95w Fukumoto (0-3) Jd92e Seifu (1-2) shitatenage Jd91w Otsukuba (0-3) Jd90w Kotoyamamoto (2-1) shitatenage Jd94e Oginome (1-2) Jd88e Sakai (2-1) yoritaoshi Jd89w Daigoki (1-2) Jd86e Kojimaumi (1-2) uwatenage Jd87e Jin (0-3) Jd85w Yokoyama (2-1) hatakikomi Jd83w Kasachikara (1-2) Jd81w Hisatsukasa (1-2) yorikiri Jd83e Hamada (0-3) Jd78w Shirozuka (3-0) yorikiri Jd80e Kakushoma (2-1) Jd77w Dewahikari (2-1) yorikiri Jd79e Sekinoyama (1-2) Jd77e Yamakoshi (3-0) yoritaoshi Jd75e Kaitanaka (2-1) Jd74w Uchiyama (2-1) tsukiotoshi Jd73w Kaisenzan (1-2) Jd71w Kasugaryu (2-1) uwatenage Jd70e Hagurokuni (1-2) Jd72w Shimada (3-0) hikiotoshi Jd68w Kotonoshin (2-1) Jd67e Kinokawa (3-0) yorikiri Jd65w Tamanomichi (2-1) Jd64w Toma (2-1) oshidashi Jd66w Takanobori (1-2) Jd62e Hayatejo (3-0) yorikiri Jd63w Shinkairiki (2-1) Jd61w Hokutoryu (2-1) hatakikomi Jd60w Murakawa (1-2) Jd58w Onoyama (2-1) hikiotoshi Jd58e Takanoya (1-2) Jd56e Kitanomine (2-1) yorikiri Jd56w Hayakaze (1-2) Jd55e Maenofuji (2-1) oshidashi Jd54e Ichinoya (1-2) Jd53w Azumadake (2-1) sukuinage Jd52e Takasufuji (1-2) Jd50w Yamaguchi (3-0) yorikiri Jd50e Minozakura (2-1) Jd47w Nionoumi (2-1) kotenage Jd49e Ikeda (1-2) Jd46e Wakamusashi (2-1) uwatedashinage Jd47e Miyajima (1-2) Jd43w Uchigoshiki (2-1) yorikiri Jd45w Akanoume (1-2) Jd43e Hienriki (2-1) yorikiri Jd41w Takaisamu (1-2) Jd40w Tamashoryu (1-2) oshidashi Jd39w Wakahisashi (0-3) Jd38e Azumahana (2-1) okuridashi Jd36w Hatayama (1-2) Jd35e Kanaya (2-1) okuridashi Jd36e Taiyo (1-2) Jd34e Toyokaze (2-1) uwatenage Jd33w Wakataizan (1-2) Jd31w Yuki (2-1) oshidashi Jd32w Yatsurugiyama (1-2) Jd31e Hiranoyama (2-1) oshidashi Jd29e Watanabeyama (1-2) Jd27w Daitenzan (2-1) yorikiri Jd28w Shinyu (1-2) Jd25e Kisenoshima (2-1) oshidashi Jd27e Ryudo (1-2) Jd23e Shoryu (1-2) hikiotoshi Jd24e Dewanoyu (0-3) Jd22e Kihonoumi (2-1) oshidashi Jd21w Haguroumi (1-2) Jd20w Kigawafuji (2-1) tsukiotoshi Jd19w Hokkairyu (1-2) Jd17w Tamaarashi (2-1) oshidashi Jd19e Hoshigamine (1-2) Jd17e Akioka (2-1) tsukiotoshi Jd14w Fujiarashi (1-2) Jd13e Umebayashi (3-0) oshidashi Jd15e Tamahoriki (2-1) Jd12e Okinoryu (2-1) uwatenage Jd11e Hanakaze (1-2) Jd9e Utonishiki (2-1) hatakikomi Jd10e Ryukiyama (1-2) Jd7e Onoshima (2-1) oshidashi Jd6e Tamatsubaki (1-2) Jd4e Kakuryu (3-0) uchigake Jd5e Kiyoseryu (2-1) Jd2e Takanoyama (2-1) yorikiri Jd3e Chiyofubuki (1-2) Sandanme Jd1w Azumao (3-0) yorikiri Sd100e Kitakasuga (2-1) Sd99w Arajin (1-2) okuritaoshi Sd98e Mutsuhokkai (0-3) Sd96e Tsuteno (2-1) oshidashi Sd96w Masuryu (1-2) Sd93w Asahikari (2-1) yorikiri Sd94w Kasamaryu (1-2) Sd92e Oseumi (2-1) tottari Sd91e Kainonami (1-2) Sd88w Ako (2-1) kirikaeshi Sd89w Yamakashira (1-2) Sd86w Tokitsukasa (3-0) tsukiotoshi Sd88e Kakureizan (2-1) Sd85w Arawaka (2-1) hikiotoshi Sd84w Tomonofuji (1-2) Sd83w Koriki (3-0) oshidashi Sd82w Kyokuhikari (2-1) Sd80w Asahanada (1-2) kirikaeshi Sd80e Asatofuji (0-3) Sd78w Fukujumaru (2-1) yorikiri Sd81e Katsuhata (1-2) Sd75w Takaryu (1-2) yorikiri Sd76w Shinnishiki (0-3) Sd76e Yukitsukasa (2-1) hatakikomi Sd74e Hotaka (1-2) Sd71e Higonishiki (1-2) oshidashi Sd73e Nishisegawa (0-3) Sd71w Chiyotsukumo (2-1) yorikiri Sd70e Daibanjaku (1-2) Sd69w Kamakura (2-1) tsukidashi Sd67w Toho (1-2) Sd65w Asakiumi (1-2) yorikiri Sd68e Fusanohana (0-3) Sd63w Nakabuchi (2-1) yorikiri Sd64w Asahiryu (1-2) Sd62w Higonomine (3-0) yorikiri Sd61w Hanada (2-1) Sd60w Tamanotaka (2-1) yorikiri Sd59w Minanosato (1-2) Sd57w Daishochi (2-1) yorikiri Sd59e Jiguruma (1-2) Sd55e Wakachikuba (1-2) hikiotoshi Sd57e Kitanosho (0-3) Sd53w Suginohana (2-1) oshidashi Sd55w Terunosato (1-2) Sd50w Asasegawa (1-2) yoritaoshi Sd52w Tamataiga (0-3) Sd51e Hananosato (2-1) shitatenage Sd49w Kotokusuwaka (1-2) Sd47e Daiki (1-2) okuridashi Sd49e Takinooto (0-3) Sd47w Yoshinoumi (2-1) sukuinage Sd45w Satsukiumi (1-2) Sd43e Murayoshi (2-1) yorikiri Sd44e Seiryu (1-2) Sd44w Niioka (1-2) shitatedashinage Sd41w Fukutsukasa (0-3) Sd39w Kaishin (2-1) oshidashi Sd41e Tatsuyutaka (1-2) Sd37w Akiyama (3-0) yorikiri Sd38w Rachimi (2-1) Sd37e Kuroiwa (2-1) yorikiri Sd35w Onoshio (1-2) Sd35e Aoba (3-0) yorikiri Sd33e Terukaze (2-1) Sd33w Wakagiyama (2-1) uwatenage Sd30w Wakakasuga (1-2) Sd28w Wakakawashima (1-2) hikiotoshi Sd32w Futamusashi (0-3) Sd27w Motohashi (2-1) hikiotoshi Sd26w Takamaru (1-2) Sd28e Konoryu (1-2) yoritaoshi Sd24w Aratobi (0-3) Sd22e Kyokushoten (2-1) yorikiri Sd23w Tochiarashi (1-2) Sd21w Hagiwara (2-1) uwatedashinage Sd20w Akinohana (1-2) Sd18e Masutaka (2-1) hikiotoshi Sd18w Koshinoyama (1-2) Sd16w Kubota (3-0) oshidashi Sd19e Kanechika (2-1) Sd14w Chokozan (1-2) shitatenage Sd14e Hiyoriyama (0-3) Sd15e Naminooto (3-0) tsukiotoshi Sd12w Hokutokuni (2-1) Sd10e Ryuyo (1-2) yorikiri Sd9e Kaishozan (0-3) Sd4w Itakura (1-2) yorikiri Sd7w Sadanoshima (0-3) Sd5e Shimatora (2-1) oshitaoshi Sd3w Aogifuji (1-2) Sd3e Shotenyu (2-1) oshidashi Sd1e Kondo (1-2) Makushita Sd2e Nanbara (1-2) yorikiri Ms59w Masunobori (0-3) Ms57e Tokinoboru (2-1) oshidashi Ms57w Kiyoazuma (1-2) Ms58e Katayama (3-0) hatakikomi Ms54w Hakuho (2-1) Ms53w Katsumayama (1-2) yorikiri Ms52e Aranonami (0-3) Ms52w Takahijiri (2-1) shitatedashinage Ms50w Komanofuji (1-2) Ms47w Hayasegawa (1-2) yorikiri Ms50e Onowaka (0-3) Ms48e Takanofuji (3-0) yorikiri Ms46w Tamaryoma (2-1) Ms44e Nishikikaze (2-1) yorikiri Ms45w Hokutoarashi (1-2) Ms43w Kakuo (2-1) kotenage Ms42e Fukutaro (1-2) Ms40w Maenowaka (3-0) yoritaoshi Ms44w Chiyonohana (2-1) Ms38e Ama (3-0) oshidashi Ms39w Raido (2-1) Ms36w Rikiryuyama (1-2) uwatenage Ms35e Shindo (0-3) Ms33e Kotokasuga (2-1) tsukiotoshi Ms34w Hoshitango (1-2) Ms30e Kotokikutsugi (1-2) yorikiri Ms31e Azusayumi (0-3) Ms31w Kainowaka (2-1) yorikiri Ms29e Wakanojo (1-2) Ms28e Raiko (2-1) yoritaoshi Ms26w Tamao (1-2) Ms25e Kuniazuma (1-2) hikiotoshi Ms27w Tokiyutaka (0-3) Ms24e Kotokuni (2-1) yoritaoshi Ms22e Tokitenku (1-2) Ms20w Maikaze (2-1) tsukitaoshi Ms21w Shishio (1-2) Ms19e Kyokunankai (2-1) utchari Ms18w Daishodai (1-2) Ms17w Hokutoiwa (3-0) oshidashi Ms19w Ryuho (2-1) Ms14e Yotsuguruma (1-2) yoritaoshi Ms14w Asofuji (0-3) Ms13w Otoryu (2-1) hatakikomi Ms12w Tochinoyama (1-2) Ms10e Yoshiazuma (1-2) yorikiri Ms10w Toyonoshima (0-3) Ms8e Nadatsukasa (1-0) yorikiri Ms7w Wakainami (0-3) Ms6w Chiyotenzan (2-1) yorikiri Ms8w Kotokanyu (1-2) Ms4w Uchida (3-0) yorikiri Ms5w Tanaka (2-1) Ms5e Fujinohana (2-1) hikiotoshi Ms3w Hamanoshima (1-2) Ms4e Masutsuyoshi (1-2) oshitaoshi Ms1e Daizen (0-3) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yoavoshimaru 0 Posted March 13, 2003 Jk8e Maenoshima (3-0) kainahineri Jk5e Kotobuki (2-1) Nice kimarite, not very common. Ms19e Kyokunankai (2-1) utchari Ms18w Daishodai (1-2) And the second nice kimarite of the day. It's indicative of good defensive sumo and lower back strength. Chiyotenzan looked the weakest to me I agree. Intai for him soon? Thank you Doitsuyama-zeki for posting summaries for those of us, like me, who can't watch all the toriteki events :~-( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zentoryu 154 Posted March 13, 2003 I agree. Intai for him soon? I would be surprised if he did. I mean, he's still relatively young, unlike Daizen. Whatever is wrong with him could be worked out, he has time. But the question is; does he have the will to work it out? Speaking of Daizen, 0-3 so far. Intai is looming... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zentoryu 154 Posted March 13, 2003 Akinoshima has no additional burden of having won a makuuchi saiko yusho in this regard unlike Takatoriki had. I believe he will at least try to get repromoted if he falls down to juryo. I read somewhere that Akinoshima said he would retire rather than face demotion to Juryo. But that's unconfirmed, so don't quote me on that. :-( That said, I was actually refering to Chiyotenzan's possible retirement in my origional comments. :-) I really don't think he will (Chiyo that is). It just seems like he's too young. But if he's lost his spirit and enthusiasm for it, then maybe he will. Either way, it sad to see what has happened to a once so promising young rikishi. (Oh my god...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kotoseiya Yuichi 3 Posted March 14, 2003 I read somewhere that Akinoshima said he would retire rather than face demotion to Juryo. But that's unconfirmed, so don't quote me on that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Manekineko 200 Posted March 14, 2003 I also heard (third hand, though) that Akinoshima expressed his firm decision to retire should he drop to Juryo, both before Hatsu and now before Haru-basho started. Maybe he's simply sick of wrestling and watching Futagoyama-beya crumble... Maybe he doesn't want to do those push-ups anymore. ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kotoseiya Yuichi 3 Posted March 14, 2003 But I do believe he'll retire... wrestling as he does lately, staying on in Juryo would simply prolong the agony for another few basho. And Akinoshima is a samurai at heart, he wouldn't allow that. He's 1-5 now. 6-9 at M12W might be enough with good banzuke luck so he would need 5-4 at least from now on. That doesn't look too likely considering his lack of form. Enjoy him while you still can. :~-( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QttP 0 Posted March 14, 2003 I also heard (third hand, though) that Akinoshima expressed his firm decision to retire should he drop to Juryo, both before Hatsu and now before Haru-basho started. Maybe he's simply sick of wrestling and watching Futagoyama-beya crumble... Maybe he doesn't want to do those push-ups anymore. ;) But I do believe he'll retire... wrestling as he does lately, staying on in Juryo would simply prolong the agony for another few basho. And Akinoshima is a samurai at heart, he wouldn't allow that. There is another factor to be considered... The Kinboshi. All 16 of them. As long as he wrestles he gets steady monthly pay just for them. Now, I really don't know - does one get paid for past kinboshi while in Juryo or only while in Makuuchi? It would seem logical to get payed in Juryo too. If so, then wrestling a couple more bashos for that (and the juryo paycheck too) wouldn't be too terrible. Daizen also... it really looks like he's spent. Daizen really should go. Now that he's in Makushita and he's 0-3, it shows that his time is up. He had a good career, though. Not brilliant, but good. He shouldn't have hard feelings about retiring. Tenzan? It really does depend on his will-power, but i have a sinking feeling that precisely the lack of it led to his downfall... I haven't heard of any physical injury. So, if he lost his fighting spirit, the best thing for him would be to retire. With Tenzan it's 100% about mentality and fighting spirit. However, unlike physical injuries, these are things he can change, and being young, he still's got time. It's all about what he wants - if he still wants to do sumo, he'll climb back up again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yoavoshimaru 0 Posted March 14, 2003 The Kinboshi. All 16 of them. As long as he wrestles he gets steady monthly pay just for them. Really? I thought you got one time bonus for each one, and that's it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Manekineko 200 Posted March 14, 2003 No, each kinboshi really is a lifetime bonus to rikishi's pay... as long as he receives pay, so in Juryo too... But still I think Akinoshima will be true to his word and retire. He has accumulated so much kinboshi-money over the years, a few basho more or less... ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zentoryu 154 Posted March 14, 2003 No, each kinboshi really is a lifetime bonus to rikishi's pay... as long as he receives pay, so in Juryo too... He makes so much money from the kinboshi bonus that his pay is said to be at or near the level of an Ozeki. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kotoseiya Yuichi 3 Posted March 14, 2003 He makes so much money from the kinboshi bonus that his pay is said to be at or near the level of an Ozeki. At the time Grand Sumo Fully Illustrated (see the ozumo book thread on the Sumo related questions subforum) was published, a single kinboshi was worth 25 000 yen. Sixteen of those means a bonus of 400 000 yen every basho. That's 3148 euros or 3383 US dollars (more conversions at Xe.net) every other month and quite likely the sum has been raised few times since the publishing year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yoavoshimaru 0 Posted March 15, 2003 Wow, that's interesting. A kinboshi really is a one time achievement: the maegashira was in superior condition / shape / mental shape / got lucky and defeated a yokozuna. I like watching that (even though it tends to ruin sumo games), and I fully support a big bonus for that. But for the whole lifetime? Even if the maegashira never has another kinboshi? Good for Akinoshima either way :-( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doitsuyama 1,259 Posted March 15, 2003 It is NOT for the whole lifetime. Except in the very unfortunate case a rikishi dies while still ranked in Makuuchi or Juryo... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zentoryu 154 Posted March 15, 2003 But for the whole lifetime? Even if the maegashira never has another kinboshi? That's the way it is. A rikishi gets to collect his kin-boshi bonus every other month regardless if he ever adds to his total. He can collect on it as long as he remains an active rikishi, ie, as long as his career lasts. You could consider it a "career" pay bonus. It goes hand in hand with the incentive money that Juryo and Makuuchi rikishi get every basho, which is based on their career win totals, yusho, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
