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I wish I came up with this wise sentence myself.... .... I can understand japanese fans who see guys like ROHO with capacity though no dignity getting little sad/frustrated/p*** o**. I do too. But our new Yokozuna? For me he can reach highs of Chiyonofuji/Takanahana... well maybe even higher. I don't think isolation of OZUMO to a national matter will help sumo anything. We must remember we do live in a new world where Japan is no longer an isolated island. Any tries now to keep sumo all japanese because there are too good foreign wrestlers would be a BIG surrender. Such an action would be a BIG offence to the japanese soul. A nation who's history embed samurais, seppuku, kamikaze can't be terrified of threat of Baruto etc. no matter how BIG and skilled they are. The inpact of foreign rikishis should only inspire native wrestlers to fight harder to show THIS IS THEIR game. On the other hand foreign rikishis should respect the OZUMO rituals, rules etc. They should be glad to have a chance to have a chance to participiate in a 'sport' which is older than their native country, with tradition older than Muhammad. Those who do NOT follow and respect the rulez should be kicked all the way to Ushuaia. I wonder also if those japanese (and those who have same opinions) who do NOT like foreigns rikishis have same problems with baseboll beeing such a big sport in Japan?... Hmmm... have a nice sunny day :-) PS. The day rikishis like AMA is a problem for OZUMO I will start to look for some new hobby PS2.....the essence of the problem might be the behaviour of Asashoryu. Beeing among the most tallented sumo wrestlers all time its a pity to see some of his behaviour thats why I hope Yokozuna Hakuho will put back some dignity into OZUMO

For the odds of having no December babies in a 42-man makuuchi field, I get 2.4%. How's that for totally useless? Ok, I feel compelled to chime in a bit. Firstly I get a probability of 2.6%. But the useless part of all this talk is that December is meaningless - ANY month without a birthday would have gotten Kaiguma's attention. While I'm too lazy now to calculate the probability of that, my guess is that it's over 50% probability that at least a month has no birthday in a field of 42 people. me lazy too...but if december probality is 2.6% that should be the same for all other months so that would make 12x2.6=31.2% probality (not 50) that at least a month has no birthd...... anyway fun with useless info (Laughing...) cium cium eciq

Damn..sh** ...errghh...all my points in the post above ended up in kaigumas quote... you can read them as answers to both bealzbubs questions and kaigumas comments... I even messed upp who asked and so... must be my worst post yet..though my answers are what I do think good day all eciq

...very good questions alltogether...have a nice sunny day kaiguma... regards eciq

I think/hope that Osh will become a strong ozeki next year. You should be more optimistic and have higher hopes for your countryman (Laughing...) My prediction is Aki Y Asashoryu, Hakuho O Kotooshu, Chiyotaikai, Ama/Homasho (S Kotomitsuki, Homasho (Tokitenku if Homasho is O)) (K Baruto (if healed), Tochiozan) eciq

Jonah Lomu was a cool choice. With his fysique and speed if he could learn tachai well he could be a very difficult man to stop. I guess some would love to henka him (Laughing...) I too agree with Otokonoyama and Azamaryu that ALL the great judo champs would do well (I add Pawel Nastula) Vassili Alexeiev (Heart...)))) Yeaaa, he could lift out Konishiki thx to ALL for interesting comments

Hi, Do not know how to create a REAL poll, but your opinions are of more dignity rather than some numbers. Also that would be surely some posts why i did NOT have this or this athlete as an option to vote. However you have the question in the topic. My personal choice would be Alexander Karelin who I think if he choose to be a sumowrestler would make it all the way to yokozuna. He had the strength, balance, size and everything. What are your choices regards eciq

sure GREAT sumo (Applauding...) as for Kokkai I guess ppl wait until someone starts a topic about that. I too want to read all analysies, etc. I have no idea what made him so angry maybe he got hit by Tamanoshimas head at the end of the bout? I wait for some expert views (Applauding...) eciq

Yea... I guess he must have had done something in that direction. Incredible fightnig spirit as well. Someone posted last basho that Ama's 'stupid' fierce tachais etc last basho was kinda training session how to deal with big and difficullt oponennts. He might be so right about that. Go Ama go (Applauding...) I was also very impressed with Yokozunas bout. The 'new' Roho is so cool. Finally he does sumo that shoud be his trademark. Gone are the endlessly henkas and slapping downs. Too bad he could not get that win. That would make this basho so much more interesting.

Thank You Asojima. I guess I should maybe ask myself first before I post when a quetion arise in my head :-) I DO feel little stupid. I have been following sumo for some years so I should know better. To my defence I can only say it was some bashos ago we had more than two sekiwake or komosubi (Hatsu 05 I think) As for my predictions the numbers I gave was just an example so they maybe are highly unlikely but the outcome with all six KK is quite likely. Roho is almost there. Both komusubis having 4:4 after first week is VERY promising. Kotomitsuki is only 2 wins away from his trademark 8:7. I doubt Bart will go MK. This leaving only Miyabiyama have to do his duty. I believe he will (Dohyo-iri...) So I think we will have a bigger sanyaku next basho :-) regards eciq

I am NOT an 'guess the banzuke' expert. I wonder what would happen if for example the basho ends with following results ----> Sekiwake ---- Miyabiyama (9-6) Kotomitsuki (9-6) Komusubi ---- Kisenosato (9-6) Kokkai (9-6) Maegashira 1 --Baruto (11-4) Roho (10-5) it is all sekiwake, komusubi and M1 ends with good kachi-koshi. If Baruto's 11-4 is with jun-yusho is it possible he can get any promotion in situation above? It looks like a situation when all six end this basho with good KK is very likely regards eciq

could not agree more.... ....Ama's excellent start is very promissing for a bout against Baruto or Roho ar maybe both. Maybe than (if he manages to win them) he will climb on a kensho standing list. regards eciq

Good points to a good post. Beeing self a rookie here I too have noticed some stupid posts and way too long threads sometime arguing about non-sense things. Have been reading forum for 2-3 years and following sumo since mid- nineties. Though to my bad english I did not decide to join untill now :-) have a nice day eciq

In my post above I missed Peterao's name in his quote. Sorry Peterao

some statistics first **************** Yokozuna 11-4, 13-2, 1-2-12,14-1 Ozeki 13-2, 13-2, 14-1 ,13-2 Asa vs Hakuho 06 Hatsu 12 Lost Kotenage 06 Haru 11 Lost Uwatedashinage 06 Haru 16 Won Shitatenage **************** Many of You have some good reasons why not to promote Hakuho. I myself think it is not so big thing that he did mot get promoted. I believe that Hakuho is a great soon-to-be-yokozuna and a basho (or few) delay really does not matter. Still I think that they really should promote him. I think he is the best rikishi so far this year. Hakuho is not only performing yokozuna style sumo. He is performing a real GOOD YOKOZUNA style sumo. I know many of you will say sumo is not only about statistics. It is about style, grace etc. But than think again it is a LOT about numbers as well. You do NOT get promoted if you get a 6-9 record no matter how gracefull sumo you performed and losses were all henka :-) Back to numbers. Hakuho has lost so far 7 bouts in four bashos. Who can match it? Asashoryu ? He has lost 7 bouts in 3 bashos so far (excluded the basho he got injured) Two of Asashoryu's losses was against Hakuho in two consecutive bashos. When did it last happen? I do not say he is better than Asashoryu but in sumo you can have 2,3 even 4 yokozunas and only one can be the best. So it IS possible to be second best and worse and still be a good yokozuna. You all agree that Hakuho is #2 in sumo now. Think about it. He is #2 in sumo when at #1 spot we have one of the greatest yokozunas all time, maybe the best one ever. still our young boy have a better record this year, beating Asashoryu's ass twice in a row and having jun-yusho, play-off, yusho, jun-yusho streak this year. As I said before I don't cry over the fact that Hakuho was not promoted although I think he deserved it. It may have been a 'wise' decission but I don't think it was fair. I worry more about having 5 ozekis noone performing ozeki class sumo stopping Miyabiyama from becoming one. Not that he is performing any sky rocket sumo but at least he does it two digit :-) Have a nice weekend my sumofriends. sincerely eciq ps. answer to the first quote. Is a tsunatori/ozekitori basho better for sumo (in all means) than having after years a basho with two yokozunas fighting for emperors cup, even if the new youkozuna is NOT japanese? answer to the second quote. I agree with you in 120%