July to me again about those stains?- Invitation to plow GTB-Nagoya 2017- AND RESULTS!!

[PawnSums]

i'm not putting mine. I put shohozan at m7e

[Oshirokita]

D'oh! missed the deadline... Grr, one of my favourite games, I will try to be more timely next basho.

[Gurowake]

Like many people, I can't believe the deadline for this has already passed.  Of course, I submit my entry almost as soon as the topic goes up in the forum, so... 

This is what I assume I submitted:

Hakuho(15-0 Yw)    Y    Harumafuji(11-4 Ye)
Kisenosato(6-5 Ye)    Y    Kakuryu(1-4 Yw)
Terunofuji(12-3 Oe)    O    Goeido(9-6 Ow)
Takayasu(11-4 Sw)    O    
Tamawashi(10-5 Se)    S    Mitakeumi(8-7 Ke)
Yoshikaze(8-7 Kw)    K    Kotoshogiku(7-8 Se)
Shodai(10-5 M5w)    M1    Takakeisho(11-4 M7w)
Tochinoshin(12-3 M10e)    M2    Hokutofuji(10-5 M7e)
Ikioi(9-6 M6w)    M3    Ura(11-4 M10w)
Endo(6-9 M1w)    M4    Kagayaki(9-6 M9w)
Tochiozan(6-9 M4e)    M5    Chiyoshoma(5-10 M2w)
Ichinojo(8-7 M9e)    M6    Onosho(10-5 M14e)
Daieisho(4-11 M3e)    M7    Aoiyama(4-11 M3w)
Takanoiwa(5-7 M5e)    M8    Ishiura(8-7 M11w)
Okinoumi(3-12 M2e)    M9    Chiyonokuni(2-13 M1e)
Tokushoryu(8-7 M12e)    M10    Shohozan(6-9 M8e)
Chiyotairyu(9-6 M14w)    M11    Arawashi(7-8 M11e)
Daishomaru(8-7 M13w)    M12    Takarafuji(3-12 M4w)
Takekaze(4-11 M6e)    M13    Sokokurai(5-10 M8w)
Sadanoumi(9-6 J1e)    M14    Kotoyuki(6-9 M12w)
Nishikigi(10-5 J4e)    M15    Chiyomaru(9-6 J2e)
Gagamaru(9-6 J3e)    M16    

This is what I actually submitted:

Spoiler

    Yokozuna E: Hakuho Y2w (15-0)
    Yokozuna W: Harumafuji Y2e (11-4)
   Yokozuna E2: Kisenosato Y1e (6-5-4)
   Yokozuna W2: Kakuryu Y1w (1-4-10)
       Ozeki E: Terunofuji O1e (12-3)
       Ozeki W: Goeido O1w (9-6)
      Ozeki E2: Takayasu S1w (11-4)
      Ozeki W2: None
      Ozeki E3: None
      Ozeki W3: None
    Sekiwake E: Tamawashi S1e (10-5)
    Sekiwake W: Mitakeumi K1e (8-7)
   Sekiwake E2: None
   Sekiwake W2: None
    Komusubi E: Yoshikaze K1w (8-7)
    Komusubi W: Kotoshogiku S2e (7-8)
   Komusubi E2: None
   Komusubi W2: None
  Maegashira E: Shodai M5w (10-5)
  Maegashira W: Takakeisho M7w (11-4)
 Maegashira E2: Tochinoshin M10e (12-3)
 Maegashira W2: Hokutofuji M7e (10-5)
 Maegashira E3: Ikioi M6w (9-6)
 Maegashira W3: Ura M10w (11-4)
 Maegashira E4: Endo M1w (6-9)
 Maegashira W4: Kagayaki M9w (9-6)
 Maegashira E5: Tochiozan M4e (6-9)
 Maegashira W5: Chiyoshoma M2w (5-10)
 Maegashira E6: Ichinojo M9e (8-7)
 Maegashira W6: Onosho M14e (10-5)
 Maegashira E7: Daieisho M3e (4-11)
 Maegashira W7: Aoiyama M3w (4-11)
 Maegashira E8: Takanoiwa M5e (5-7-3)
 Maegashira W8: Ishiura M11w (8-7)
 Maegashira E9: Okinoumi M2e (3-12)
 Maegashira W9: Chiyonokuni M1e (2-13)
Maegashira E10: Tokushoryu M12e (8-7)
Maegashira W10: Shohozan M8e (6-9)
Maegashira E11: Chiyotairyu M14w (9-6)
Maegashira W11: Arawashi M11e (7-8)
Maegashira E12: Daishomaru M13w (8-7)
Maegashira W12: Takarafuji M4w (3-12)
Maegashira E13: Takekaze M6e (4-11)
Maegashira W13: Sokokurai M8w (5-10)
Maegashira E14: Sadanoumi J1e (9-6)
Maegashira W14: Kotoyuki M12w (6-9)
Maegashira E15: Nishikigi J4e (10-5)
Maegashira W15: Chiyomaru J2e (9-6)
Maegashira E16: Gagamaru J3e (9-6)
Maegashira W16: None
Maegashira E17: None
Maegashira W17: None

I'll leave it to everyone else to check if these are actually identical.

[Atenzan]

On 19/06/2017 at 21:08, Asashosakari said:

 

I'll go ahead and put up my entry for discussion / ridicule:

That's my line. Yours is "tell me what you got wrong".

Meanwhile I missed the deadline so I'm going to bring my average up this basho!

[PawnSums]

On ‎6‎/‎20‎/‎2017 at 14:09, PawnSums said:

i'm not putting mine. I put shohozan at m7e

Fine, Here:

0-0 Hakuho      Y   Harumafuji  0-0
0-0 Kisenosato  Y   Kakuryu     0-0
0-0 Terunofuji  O   Goeido      0-0
0-0 Takayasu    O   -             
0-0 Tamawashi   S   Mitakeumi   0-0
0-0 Yoshikaze   K   Kotoshogiku 0-0
0-0 Shodai      M1  Takakeisho  0-0
0-0 Tochinoshin M2  Hokutofuji  0-0
0-0 Ikioi       M3  Ura         0-0
0-0 Onosho      M4  Endo        0-0
0-0 Kagayaki    M5  Tochiozan   0-0
0-0 Chiyoshoma  M6  Ichinojo    0-0
0-0 Shohozan    M7  Daishomaru  0-0
0-0 Chiyotairyu M8  Daieisho    0-0
0-0 Aoiyama     M9  Takanoiwa 0-0
0-0 Okinoumi    M10 Takekaze    0-0
0-0 Sokokurai   M11 Takarafuji  0-0
0-0 Chiyonokuni M12 Arawashi    0-0
0-0 Kotoyuki    M13 Nishikigi   0-0
0-0 Sadanoumi   M14 Chiyomaru   0-0
0-0 Gagamaru    M15 Kyokushuho  0-0
0-0 Chiyoo      M16 - 

 

Edited June 22, 2017 by PawnSums

[Asashosakari]

A something-for-everyone banzuke, I reckon...very lenient to a few joi guys, not so much to others. Could be some surprising scores. 56 points here, thanks to a couple of lucky not-misses where I had bullseyes in the middle of some totally wrong sections.

Edited June 25, 2017 by Asashosakari

[Nekoyama]

Wow!  I'm just... amazed at how wrong I was.  I didn't get much of anything right - I think I got maybe 4 of the M ranks.  The rest is just scary.  I didn't penalize Chiyonokuni as hard as they did, that's for sure. 

[Ganzohnesushi]

Can't believe how different they treated poor Chiyonokuni and lucky Takanoiwa. Takanoiwa M5e (5-7-3) --> M7e? Gimme a break!

Lucky enough, like Asashosakari I had bullseyes in the middle of some totally wrong sections to end up with 55 points.

Ganzohnesushi

 

[fwuzzle23]

I've never entered officially, but I've been predicting the banzuke on my own for the last few basho. For the most part, I'm awful at it, but I think I actually did pretty well this time. I managed to get Y-M6 perfect, save for switching around the M2s. After M7e, it all went wrong, but I managed a few hits here and there. If I'm calculating my score correctly, I believe I would have had 53 points from this.

Maybe I should come up with a proper shikona and actually enter next basho

[Kintamayama]

5 hours ago, fwuzzle23 said:

 I believe I would have had 53 points from this.

Maybe I should come up with a proper shikona and actually enter next basho

You should. And a 53 would have gotten you a borderline 8-7.

[Kintamayama]

Another Basho gone- 75 entries, a lot of people forgot to enter. Maybe I should go back to bombarding everyone with reminders.

A first time winner for the third straight basho- Taxinohana! Congratulations! Three new players, one (Tiger Tanaka) came in tenth, which is awesome.

Pandaazuma is wearing the yellow  (green?) mawashi for now.

 

Milestones:

Tamanaogijima-100th basho!!!!!

Andoreasu- 90th basho ( and runs the game ..)

Susanoo- 80th basho

Asojima-70th basho

 

Thank you for playing and see you next time. Special thanks to Andoreasu for running and Doitsuyama for the electronics..

And now, on with the Ba-show!!

To see how you did..

 

Edited June 26, 2017 by Kintamayama

[Pandaazuma]

8 minutes ago, Kintamayama said:

Another Basho gone- 75 entries, a lot of people forgot to enter. Maybe I should go back to bombarding everyone with reminders.

A first time winner for the third straight basho- Taxinohana! Congratulations! Three new players, one (Tiger Tanaka) came in tenth, which is awesome.

Padaazuma is wearing the yellow  (green?) mawashi for now.

 

Milestones:

Tamanaogijima-100th basho!!!!!

Andoreasu- 90th basho ( and runs the game ..)

Susanoo- 80th basho

Asojima-70th basho

 

Thank you for playing and see you next time. Special thanks to Andoreasu for running and Doitsuyama for the electronics..

And now, on with the Ba-show!!

 

Thanks, Moti. You can call me 'Pandaazuma', by the way! ;)

Do you have a link to the standings? The main page appears to still show the May results (yes I tried to refresh).

[Gurowake]

Just now, Pandaazuma said:

Do you have a link to the standings? The main page appears to still show the May results (yes I tried to refresh).

I was just about to post a very similar message.  It's only been a few minutes since his post, but I would have expected they would have been uploaded and previewed before posting to the thread.  But maybe not.

[Kintamayama]

Just now, Pandaazuma said:

Thanks, Moti. You can call me 'Pandaazuma', by the way! ;)

Do you have a link to the standings? The main page appears to still show the May results (yes I tried to refresh).

That's why I didn't insert a link yet-now done.. As for your shikona, Padaazuma seems like a good one..

[Pandaazuma]

2 minutes ago, Kintamayama said:

That's why I didn't insert a link yet-now done.. As for your shikona, Padaazuma seems like a good one..

In my next incarnation...

[Kintamayama]

1 minute ago, Gurowake said:

I was just about to post a very similar message.  It's only been a few minutes since his post, but I would have expected they would have been uploaded and previewed before posting to the thread.  But maybe not.

I think you know by now not to expect anything from me. Slight problem with the upload (forgot to). Now up, probably, hopefully and belatedly.

[Gurowake]

Just now, Kintamayama said:

I think you know by now not to expect anything from me. Slight problem with the upload (forgot to). Now up, probably, hopefully and belatedly.

Along with the "But maybe not", I basically meant "I would have uploaded and previewed them, and thus expected anyone else would have, but I figure with Kintamayama maybe he didn't"

[Pandaazuma]

So after 42 basho, I finally reach the number one spot, although I have never won a yusho (the only game I haven't won). There are 42 rikishi in Makuuchi. There seems be something about that number... ;)

Edit: My first draft scored 66. :( Note to self: Don't arse around with your first draft).

Congrats to Taxinohana. 67 is a fine score on a tricky banzuke.

Edited June 26, 2017 by Pandaazuma

[Randomitsuki]

For years, I expected it to happen, and now it happened. I made a very stupid copying error: Sokokurai was 5-10 in Natsu, but I jotted down 10-5 and compiled my guess accordingly. So my banzuke was more messed up than usual from M3 to M13. 

Maybe I should have used Tsuchinoninjin's form...

Edited June 26, 2017 by Randomitsuki

[Kintamayama]

11 minutes ago, Randomitsuki said:

 

Maybe I should have used Tsuchinoninjin's form...

It wasn't working..

[Pandaazuma]

5 hours ago, Randomitsuki said:

For years, I expected it to happen, and now it happened. I made a very stupid copying error: Sokokurai was 5-10 in Natsu, but I jotted down 10-5 and compiled my guess accordingly. So my banzuke was more messed up than usual from M3 to M13. 

Maybe I should have used Tsuchinoninjin's form...

Ouch.

[Tsuchinoninjin]

5 hours ago, Kintamayama said:

It wasn't working..

Next basho guaranteed working! (I'll be up at 3am from inevitable jet lag...)

9-6 55, not bad for a 5 minute job during a work break.

[Suwihuto]

 Ninth with 62, very happy with that. A lot of half-rank swaps made the difference between  ninth and a possible Yusho.

[Fujisan]

Thanks for all you work Kintamayama......

Well done to the winner.....

Can I just say well done to Pandaazuma on his arrival at the No 1 spot......

Doesn't it bug you just a little though Panda-man to finish behind me in the Nagoya 2017 results? It would me.......

Get used to it.......The wolf train is rolling....

Edited June 26, 2017 by Fujisan

[Asashosakari]

I do have to say, the current banzuke committee's output is both ugly and boring. Pukulu's prediction (I don't think he entered it in GTB) is a case in point as it's a total paint-by-numbers job - sort rikishi by their "expected" ranks (old rank + wins - losses), break ties in favour of the guys with fewer wins, done* - and it would have been worth 64 points if I counted correctly. 66 if you do the sensible thing and exchange Kaisei and Gagamaru, so almost yusho. Even accounting for the fact that there's a bunch of luck involved (most differences to the real thing in there are same-rank East/West, not different-rank West/East), that's an astoundingly high score for that approach. You get the feeling the committee really isn't doing much else right now either.

Good news for those who want to see a purely mathematical banzuke altogether, I guess. Meanwhile, I'm hoping the commitee shakeup next April will bring some artistry back to it...

* Okay, he's got one change from the P-B-N output in there, Tokushoryu/Shohozan.

Edited June 26, 2017 by Asashosakari