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Midorifuji had 4 wins by katasukashi. He is one of only two rikishi to have 5 in one basho (January 2021), and the only sekitori. More mindbogglingly, he has 4 or more wins by this kimarite in a whopping 6 basho, which accounts for fully half of all times this has been done.

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The lack of a gino-sho in Natsu basho has terminated a streak of 9 consecutive tournaments that saw the prize awarded. That was the longest run with gino-sho since Kyushu 2008 to Haru 2010 (also nine tournaments).

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On 05/10/2021 at 23:31, Yubinhaad said:

This was the 49th basho since Myogiryu's previous sansho, which according to my notes is the third-longest stretch between sansho wins.
 


Rikishi		Basho	Previous Sansho 	Next Sansho
				
Tamakasuga	55	1997 Natsu (S)		2006 Nagoya (G)
Takanonami	53	1994 Hatsu (K)		2002 Kyushu (K)
Myogiryu	49	2013 Natsu (G)		2021 Aki (G)
Dejima		47	1999 Nagoya (S, G, K)	2007 Natsu (K)
Kirinji		36	1982 Haru (K)		1988 Haru (K)
Daijuyama	34	1982 Aki (S)		1988 Natsu (K)
Aoiyama		34	2011 Kyushu (K)		2017 Nagoya (K)
Kaisei		34	2012 Nagoya (K)		2018 Haru (K)
Kotonowaka	33	1998 Aki (S)		2004 Haru (K)
Miyabiyama	33	2000 Natsu (K)		2005 Kyushu (K)

 

Sadanoumi has now tied Dejima for 4th place by scoring his second kanto-sho 47 tournaments after the first. (Sanspo brought it to my attention, although they've messed up the numbers by claiming Sadanoumi is one basho short of Dejima, probably confusing the gap for the interval.)

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On 23/05/2022 at 00:14, Reonito said:

Midorifuji had 4 wins by katasukashi. He is one of only two rikishi to have 5 in one basho (January 2021), and the only sekitori. More mindbogglingly, he has 4 or more wins by this kimarite in a whopping 6 basho, which accounts for fully half of all times this has been done.

Katasukashi is to Midorifuji what yorikiri or oshidashi is to other rikishi - he wins 25% of the time with it. The closest I could find is 13%.

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31 minutes ago, Kashunowaka said:

Katasukashi is to Midorifuji what yorikiri or oshidashi is to other rikishi - he wins 25% of the time with it. The closest I could find is 13%.


Hoshiazuma says hello.

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7 minutes ago, Yubinhaad said:


Hoshiazuma says hello.

Wow, he is the all-time leader by some margin, having accomplished all of this in the lower divisions! Midorifuji is already in 3rd place, and he is young enough that if he keeps getting 15 chances per basho, he could get there.

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1 hour ago, Yubinhaad said:


Hoshiazuma says hello.

Holy melon balls!  This guy wasn't using katasukashi as a "secret weapon", it was 30% of his wins. He won with it twice in a basho 20 times; won it on 3 days in 9 basho; and in Nagoya 1998 used it 4 times.  He used it to beat current Denzan, Kototsubasa, Ounabara and Satonofuji (twice) and also defeated recent retiree Hanakaze in 2009. [He himself was defeated by katasukashi once, by Akasaka in 1998.]

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I noticed that Terunofuji & Chiyonokuni have fought each other 3 times, however each time was in a different division. first in Juryo, second in Makuuchi, and third in Makushita. Are there any others with similar singular match-ups in 3 or more divisions, particularly in the upper divisions? I bet it's probably happened a couple of times in the lower divisions, (like say two strong rookies but one heads to sekitori and one is stuck in makushita), but not sure how to search for that.

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2 hours ago, Yokozuna Hattorizakura said:

I noticed that Terunofuji & Chiyonokuni have fought each other 3 times, however each time was in a different division. first in Juryo, second in Makuuchi, and third in Makushita. Are there any others with similar singular match-ups in 3 or more divisions, particularly in the upper divisions? I bet it's probably happened a couple of times in the lower divisions, (like say two strong rookies but one heads to sekitori and one is stuck in makushita), but not sure how to search for that.

Tenkaiho and Tochinowaka have fought each other in every division, Maezumo through Makuuchi. There could be more and maybe someone's noted it before. I found about it using this query. I know it's not perfect and could be improved. Here are some active makuuchi rikishi who've met in more than 3 divisions I found so far:

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1 hour ago, Chiyotasuke said:

Tenkaiho and Tochinowaka have fought each other in every division, Maezumo through Makuuchi. There could be more and maybe someone's noted it before. I found about it using this query. I know it's not perfect and could be improved. Here are some active makuuchi rikishi who've met in more than 3 divisions I found so far:

All those have met each other multiple times in a single division. I meant matchups that only met each other once in each divisions like the chiyo v teru example.

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I propose a very tedious method to find an instance of that. You use the this query: Query form. In the Rikishi 1's shikona field, enter shikonae of 30 or so makuuchi rikishi. In the Rikishi 2's shikona field enter the same shikonae you put in Rikishi 1. I have prepared the shikonae of every wrestler who made makuuchi since 1990, it's sorted by makuuchi debut basho:

Spoiler

Ryukozan, Oginohana, Asahisato, Takahanada, Owakamatsu, Wakahanada, Daishoyama, Takatoriki, Akebono, Kotonowaka, Kototsubaki, Daikiko, Tomoefuji, Tsunenoyama, Daishoho, Mainoumi, Wakashoyo , Tamakairiki, Daizen, Musashimaru, Takanonami, Kiraiho, Tatsuhikari, Wakanoyama, Tokitsunada, Kenko, Tachihikari, Naminohana, Kotobeppu, Aogiyama, Tochinofuji, Hitachiryu, Higonoumi, Kaio, Oginishiki, Minatofuji, Tomonohana, Musoyama, Hamanoshima, Asanowaka, Daishi, Shikishima, Asahiyutaka, Asanosho, Tosanoumi, Tamakasuga, Ganyu, Rikio, Kotoryu, Kyokushuzan, Daihisho, Tochiazuma, Yamato, Dejima, Gojoro, Tochinonada, Chiyotaikai, Wakanojo, Akinoshu, Kyokutenho, Toki, Wakanosato, Kaiho, Dewaarashi, Kinkaiyama, Tokitsuumi, Oikari, Chiyotenzan, Miyabiyama, Ohinode, Yotsukasa, Otsukasa, Takanowaka, Hayateumi, Kotomitsuki, Tochinohana, Jumonji, Takamisakari, Sentoryu, Aminishiki, Tochisakae, Wakakosho, Tamanonada, Asashoryu, Tamarikido, Wakatsutomu, Hamanishiki, Kitazakura, Kobo, Buyuzan, Shimotori, Towanoyama, Hokutoriki, Kasuganishiki, Ushiomaru, Iwakiyama, Takanotsuru, Kasugao, Asasekiryu, Takekaze, Kakizoe, Wakatoba, Toyozakura, Kokkai, Harunoyama, Futeno, Hakuho, Tokitenku, Kotooshu, Roho, Toyonoshima, Ama, Kisenosato, Kotoshogiku, Ishide, Katayama, Tamaasuka, Hakurozan, Yoshikaze, Homasho, Baruto, Daimanazuru, Hochiyama, Ryuho, Kakuryu, Asofuji, Tochiozan, Satoyama, Ryuo, Toyohibiki, Goeido, Wakanoho, Wakakirin, Ichihara, Sakaizawa, Tochinoshin, Kotokasuga, Hakuba, Kimurayama, Koryu, Masatsukasa, Chiyohakuho, Kitataiki, Tamawashi, Bushuyama, Aran, Yamamotoyama, Shotenro, Mokonami, Tosayutaka, Wakakoyu, Okinoumi, Tokusegawa, Sagatsukasa, Gagamaru, Sokokurai, Kyokunankai, Tochinowaka, Kaisei, Takarafuji, Takayasu, Daido, Fujiazuma, Masunoyama, Yoshiazuma, Takanoyama, Myogiryu, Shohozan, Sadanofuji, Aoiyama, Tsurugidake, Chiyonokuni, Tenkaiho, Kyokushuho, Nionoumi, Ikioi, Chiyotairyu, Kimikaze, Asahisho, Jokoryu, Kotoyuki, Sotairyu, Oiwato, Chiyootori, Homarefuji, Azumaryu, Daikiho, Tokushoryu, Endo, Osunaarashi, Kagamio, Takanoiwa, Terunofuji, Chiyomaru, Arawashi, Sadanoumi, Ichinojo, Amuru, Hidenoumi, Seiro, Daieisho, Mitakeumi, Shodai, Kagayaki, Daishomaru, Akiseyama, Nishikigi, Kitaharima, Chiyoshoma, Amakaze, Hokutofuji, Ishiura, Takakeisho, Chiyoo, Ura, Onosho, Yutakayama, Asanoyama, Daiamami, Abi, Ryuden, Kyokutaisei, Kotoeko, Meisei, Takanosho, Yago, Tomokaze, Terutsuyoshi, Daishoho, Shimanoumi, Enho, Takagenji, Tsurugisho, Wakatakakage, Kiribayama, Kotonowaka, Kotoshoho, Tobizaru, Hoshoryu, Akua, Midorifuji, Ichiyamamoto, Wakamotoharu, Oho, Kotokuzan

You can increase the number in the 'matching results' field and expand the rank range of Rikishi 1 rank in order to find matchups from 4 or more divisions.

I should note that this method is faulty, it can leave out the desired results.

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On 29/05/2022 at 10:39, Yokozuna Hattorizakura said:

One was just posted in the db thread. Kotokanyu v Kyokushuzan (once each in Sandanme, Makushita & Juryo)

Here are some I found on upper 3 divisions:

Miyagi and Nobehara have met eachother in the lowest 3 divisions and in maezumo

UPDATE: I wasn't able to find any on the upper 4+ divisions. But I found more on on the upper 3 and lower divisions. All of them don't include any inter-divisional bouts.

Makushita, Juryo, Makuuchi:

Lower divisions:

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Toki vs Wakakosho (Jonidan to Juryo)
Sandanme, Makushita, Juryo:
    Takamisugi vs Kaio
    Takanotsuru vs Kyokunankai
    Arawashi vs Sagatsukasa
    Hagiwara (Kisenosato) vs Wakakirin
    Fujiazuma vs Sokokurai
Still active bunch:
    Ichiki vs Kaizen (Maezumo to Makushita)
    Akitoba vs Obara (Jonokuchi to Makushita)

Notable near misses:

Asahisho vs Takayasu
Chiyonokuni vs Ryuden

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Quick check: no one knows of any occasion where a rikishi went kyujō halfway through a basho, then came back and took part in a playoff for the yūshō right? (At least since 1949?)

Context: I'm looking at each ōzeki's torikumi card and because of the possibility of playoffs, the number of rows may extend beyond 15. For Median-Buchholz purposes we don't need to consider the ketteisen results, so I'm thinking of putting a flat cutoff of 15, but obviously if a rikishi has gone kyujō at least once then that would give spurious results.

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38 minutes ago, Benihana said:

Wakamotoharu is only the second rikishi to go 9-6, 9-6, 9-6 after makuuchi promotion and the only to do that after makuuchi debut.

http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Query.aspx?show_form=0&n_basho=4&form1_rank=j&form2_rank=m&form2_wins=9&form3_rank=m&form3_wins=9&form4_rank=m&form4_wins=9&columns=4

If you say "9 wins or better" instead of "exactly 9 wins" then he's in good company with names such as Musashimaru, Kotooshu, Goeido, Onosho - 9 in total in the modern era.

 http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Query.aspx?show_form=0&columns=4&n_basho=4&form1_rank=j&form1_year=>1959&form2_rank=m&form2_wins=>8&form3_rank=m&form3_wins=>8&form4_rank=m&form4_wins=>8

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2 minutes ago, Yarimotsu said:

If you say "9 wins or better" instead of "exactly 9 wins" then he's in good company with names such as Musashimaru, Kotooshu, Goeido, Onosho - 9 in total in the modern era.

 http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Query.aspx?show_form=0&columns=4&n_basho=4&form1_rank=j&form1_year=>1959&form2_rank=m&form2_wins=>8&form3_rank=m&form3_wins=>8&form4_rank=m&form4_wins=>8

Shirley, but it's about the pattern.

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3 same-stable rikishi ranked consecutively in makuuchi, since the divisional contraction in 1967.05 (broadly grouped by "eras", as far as any are recognizable):

1968.03 Hanakago: M8w-M9w Hanahikari, Wakatenryu, Ryuko
1973.05 Tatsunami: K1e-M1e Haguroiwa, Kurohimeyama, Asahikuni
1974.03 Dewanoumi: M3w-M4w Mienoumi, Washuyama, Fukunohana
1978.01 Kokonoe: M11w-M12w Kitaseumi, Chiyonofuji, Chiyozakura

1983.01 Tokitsukaze: K1w-M1w Oyutaka, Oshio, Kurama
1983.09 Kasugano: M12e-M13e Tochihikari, Tochitsurugi, Tochitsukasa
1984.05 Tokitsukaze: M7e-M8e Kurama, Oyutaka, Amanoyama
1984.09 Kasugano: M13e-M14e Tochitsukasa, Tochitsurugi, Hachiya
1987.03 Izutsu: M6w-M8e Kirishima, Terao, Sasshunada, Jingaku - only four-rikishi block

1990.05 Futagoyama: M9w-M10w Daijuyama, Takamisugi, Misugisato
1991.05 Fujishima: K1w-M1w Takatoriki, Akinoshima, Takahanada
1991.07 Fujishima: S1w-K1w Takatoriki, Akinoshima, Takahanada
1991.09 Fujishima: S1e-K1e Takatoriki, Takahanada, Akinoshima

1993.01 Sadogatake: M8w-M9w Kotonowaka, Kototsubaki, Kotobeppu
1993.03 Futagoyama: M6e-M7e Takamisugi, Toyonoumi, Naminohana
1993.05 Futagoyama: S1w-K1e Wakanohana, Wakashoyo, Takanonami
1993.07 Futagoyama: S2e-K1w Takanonami, Takatoriki, Wakashoyo
1994.03 Futagoyama: O1e-O2e Takanohana, Wakanohana, Takanonami
1994.05 Sadogatake: M12w-M13w Kotofuji, Kotoinazuma, Kotogaume
1994.09 Futagoyama: O1w-O2w Wakanohana, Takanonami, Takanohana
1994.11 Futagoyama: O1e-O2e Takanohana, Wakanohana, Takanonami
1995.05 Futagoyama: O1w-S1e Wakanohana, Takanonami, Akinoshima
1998.07 Futagoyama: Y1w-O1e Takanohana, Wakanohana, Takanonami
1999.07 Futagoyama: Y2e-O1e Wakanohana, Takanohana, Takanonami

2000.05 Musashigawa: Y2e-O1w Musashimaru, Dejima, Musoyama
2000.07 Musashigawa: O1w-O2w Miyabiyama, Dejima, Musoyama
2000.11 Musashigawa: O2e-O3w Dejima, Miyabiyama, Musoyama
2001.01 Musashigawa: O2e-O3w Dejima, Miyabiyama, Musoyama
2001.03 Musashigawa: O1w-O2w Musoyama, Miyabiyama, Dejima
2001.05 Musashigawa: O1w-O2w Musoyama, Dejima, Miyabiyama
2001.07 Musashigawa: O1w-O2w Musoyama, Miyabiyama, Dejima

2009.05 Musashigawa: M14w-M15w Kakizoe, Shotenro, Bushuyama
2017.01 Kokonoe: M14e-M15e Chiyootori, Chiyotairyu, Chiyoo
2022.03 Kokonoe: M12w-M13w Chiyotairyu, Chiyomaru, Chiyonokuni
2022.07 Isegahama: M11w-M12w Midorifuji, Terutsuyoshi, Takarafuji


It used to be quite a bit more common before 1967; I checked back to the start of the 15-bout era in 1949 and found another 24 cases in that not even two decades. Tatsunami and Tokitsukaze 6 times each including a 4-rikishi case for both (Ta 1957.11 S1w-K1e, To 1958.11 M11e-M12w), Dewanoumi and Takasago 4 times each, Hanakago twice, Miyagino and Takashima once each.

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Trivia quiz: which record do Tagaryu, Jingaku, Kotoryu and Kaiho share?

Answer:

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These two pairs met each other the most at Maegashira only, i.e. 23 times.

Among five other pairs, Takamisakari and Takekaze needed only one more match to join this club.

The current leaders are Sadanoumi and Kagayaki at 18, trailed by Chiyotairyu.

 

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