yamaneko Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 Is it just me, or does Roho seem like he has been eating his spinach? He has been dominating the first three days. Reminds me of kotooshus great start a couple basho ago. Three solid guys in a row he has just man handled with his arm throw. Wonder whats gotten into him.
SonofCyrus Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 I noticed that too. I think it is more of him using his head.
Asojima Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 Is it just me, or does Roho seem like he has been eating his spinach? ..... Wonder whats gotten into him. Both Roho and Kokkai seem to be reverting back to the style of sumo that brought them up thru the ranks so fast. The green is probably not spinach. It is more likely the envy of two Kotooshu wannabees. (Laughing...)
Fay Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 Well, he wants to become sanyaku and finally he has the ambition. I'm happy he does so well, I hope he is still on the winning side, when I sit in the Kokugikan (Laughing...)
Asashosakari Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 I agree that Roho's been looking good so far, but I'd point out that he's often looking good during the first 10 days, only to get lazy at the end and finish short of expectations. We'll see...
Kintamayama Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 (edited) I'd say it's quite simple. Rohou was looking good most of the time, as he entered Makuuchi. 10-5 at M15, 10-5 at M9, 7-8 at M5, 11-4 at M6, 7-8 at M1,-injury at M3- not bad under any circumstances. After he was injured he dropped, came back slowly, 8-7 at M10, 10-5 at M8. Now he is completely healed and picking off where he left off, i.e. getting better than he was before his injury. I wouldn't say he loses more after ten days either, as his record is 33-21 from day 10 on, excluding the injury basho. I think Kokkai is the one losing late in the basho. I wouldn't mention his name and Kokkai's in the same breath in any case. Kokkai lost today like an amateur to someone who on paper is quite inferior to him. Edited January 10, 2006 by Kintamayama
_the_mind_ Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 I'd say it's quite simple. Rohou was looking good most of the time, as he entered Makuuchi. 10-5 at M15, 10-5 at M9, 7-8 at M5, 11-4 at M6, 7-8 at M1,-injury at M3- not bad under any circumstances. After he was injured he dropped, came back slowly, 8-7 at M10, 10-5 at M8. Now he is completely healed and picking off where he left off, i.e. getting better than he was before his injury. I wouldn't say he loses more after ten days either, as his record is 33-21 from day 10 on, excluding the injury basho. I think Kokkai is the one losing late in the basho. I wouldn't say his name and Kokkai's in the same breath in any case. Kokkai lost today like an amateur to someone who on paper is quite inferior to him. i agree Kokkai seems to do bad the second week about Roho to the thread, i seem to recall a quote "I see Kotooshu is an ozeki, and i think if he can do it, why cant i?" .....i think Roho might actually be inspired to fight better now that his friend is so much higher on the banzuke then him. he must feel he is about as good of a fighter as Kotoo
Kaikitsune Makoto Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 Roho has had two perfect bouts where his timing was perfect and his foe was out of sync. Shonichi against Kotooshu and today against Kotomitsuki. In both occasions got his left uwate immediately and used it before Kotos could do anything. Add self confidence to that and it is a nice explanatory package. Iwakiyama-bout was surprising and timing was perfect there too.
Asashosakari Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 (edited) I'd say it's quite simple. Rohou was looking good most of the time, as he entered Makuuchi. 10-5 at M15, 10-5 at M9, 7-8 at M5, 11-4 at M6, 7-8 at M1,-injury at M3- not bad under any circumstances. After he was injured he dropped, came back slowly, 8-7 at M10, 10-5 at M8. I'm mostly talking about those basho where he's really good out of the starting blocks, not the 7-8 level results where he's fighting for every win. To wit: 2004.09: 9-3 while fighting at rank, just 1-2 when he was put against slightly higher caliber opponents on the last three days 2004.11: rushed to an 8-1 start, then lost four in a row...last two bouts (both wins) were against his second- and third-lowest opponents again, so 10-5 final record 2005.01: struggled right from the start, 4-7 at one point, still finished 7-8 2005.03: 9-2 start, only 2-2 at the end, though one of those losses was against Kaio, so this one's okay 2005.05: almost a carbon copy of four months earlier...3-7 start, then rallied to a 7-8 finish 2005.07: 3-8-4, scratch that one 2005.09: post-injury basho, so I probably shouldn't interpret any patterns into this one, though he did fall from 7-4 to only 8-7 at the end, against not particularly strong opponents... 2005.11: 8-3 start, then another mere 2-2 finish (losing against those luminaries Asasekiryu and Kasugao...), final record 10-5 again In short, Roho seems to be much better when there's immediate pressure on him. Give him a comfortable win-loss margin, and he'll start struggling. Whether that's laziness as I asserted earlier, or something else, that's anybody's guess. At any rate, as good as he may have looked so far, I wouldn't quite break out the champagne for his shin-sanyaku basho yet. Edit: BTW, Kokkai isn't exclusively bad in the basho home stretch, though he is extremely streaky, either mostly wins or mostly losses. He's doing that during the other 2/3s of the basho, too, though...I feel odd ascribing a fragile psyche to a burly brawler like Kokkai, but he does seem to get into ruts easily. Edited January 10, 2006 by Asashosakari
aderechelsea Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 don't know about his stats but he definately looks better than ever .... i would never expect from him such a move against Mickey. I am impressed but i still have little faith in him. If he proves me wrong (like Kotooshu did last basho) then i will eat my hat like Robax .... 10 wins for him is a reasonable target that will send him in the sanyaku spots ...
aderechelsea Posted January 24, 2006 Posted January 24, 2006 ok i recognize Roho and the Karaev bros (who wouldn't with all those photos posted here?) ... the other two are worth knowing who they are ?
Erkhembulgan Posted January 24, 2006 Posted January 24, 2006 (edited) ok i recognize Roho and the Karaev bros (who wouldn't with all those photos posted here?) ... the other two are worth knowing who they are ? +Wakanoho (Bye, bye...) and Ossetian Yokozuna himself? Edited January 24, 2006 by Erkhembulgan
Ossetian Yokozuna Posted January 24, 2006 Posted January 24, 2006 I dont know also as you who is he on the right hand.
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