Doitsuyama Posted May 17, 2005 Posted May 17, 2005 Asashoryu won against Iwakiyama and will face the last Maegashira tomorrow in an interesting bout with Kotooshu. Chiyotaikai and Kyokushuzan still are only one win behind with Tochiazuma and Kotomitsuki following with a kachi-koshi win today. Takekaze and Hokutoriki lost and are out of the yusho race if there is such a thing with Asashoryu in the sole lead. Kotooshu was the sole winner in the 6-3 group, with an isamiashi (inadvertent step out) from Dejima and Kotooshu emerges as the favorite for the likely free Sanyaku position of Tosanoumi who lost and is 3-7. Tokitenku likes to work with the legs of his opponents and today was no exception as he won with ashitori against Ama. Tochinohana continues to pull away in Juryo at 9-1 with another win, with now only Tochisakae being one win behind. Hakurozan was the sole winner in the next group, so the number of Juryo yusho contenders shrinks by the day as Harunoyama and Daimanazuru are out now with a loss and 6-4. Tochinohana (9-1), Tochisakae (8-2), Hakurozan (7-3) and Daishodai (7-3) are the only real candidates left. Tomorrow one of Tochisakae and Hakurozan will lose as they fight each other. Oh, and the two leaders are from the same Kasugano stable, so they can meet only in a yusho playoff. On another note, Gojoro returned to the basho, but lost to Senshuyama. -- Doitsuyama Day 10 Juryo Ms2e Chiyohakuho (4-2) oshidashi J14e Dewanosato (2-8) J11e Kanbayashi (5-5) okuridashi J12w Harunoyama (6-4) J11w Chiyotenzan (6-4) tsukiotoshi J13w Kotokasuga (5-5) J9e Kobo (5-5) hatakikomi J14w Maikaze (3-7) J7w Wakanoyama (6-4) yorikiri J13e Daimanazuru (6-4) J10e Yotsukasa (4-6) oshidashi J5w Kitazakura (4-6) J4e Senshuyama (6-4) yorikiri J10w Gojoro (3-6-1) J8w Tochinohana (9-1) okuritaoshi J4w Otsukasa (5-5) J3e Takanotsuru (2-8) hatakikomi J12e Sumanofuji (4-6) J3w Hakurozan (7-3) yorikiri J9w Kinkaiyama (5-5) J2e Tochisakae (8-2) oshitaoshi J5e Kasugao (4-6) J2w Tamaasuka (6-4) yorikiri J6e Daishodai (7-3) J7e Kasuganishiki (6-4) oshidashi J1e Wakatoba (2-8) J6w Asofuji (3-7) okuridashi J1w Ishide (3-7) Makuuchi M12e Buyuzan (5-5) kotenage M17e Shimotori (4-6) M11e Aminishiki (6-4) okuridashi M17w Toki (5-5) M11w Kisenosato (5-5) oshidashi M16w Katayama (6-4) M10e Futeno (6-4) tsukiotoshi M16e Tamakasuga (6-4) M13w Toyonoshima (4-6) okuritaoshi M10w Toyozakura (2-8) M15w Tokitenku (6-4) ashitori M9e Ama (6-4) M9w Kyokushuzan (9-1) oshidashi M15e Takekaze (7-3) M8e Kotonowaka (4-6) uwatenage M12w Tokitsuumi (3-7) M8w Asasekiryu (5-5) yorikiri M13e Takanowaka (2-8) M14e Kotoshogiku (5-5) yorikiri M7e Takamisakari (3-7) M5e Kotooshu (7-3) isamiashi M6e Dejima (5-5) M5w Kakizoe (5-5) oshidashi M6w Hokutoriki (7-3) M7w Jumonji (4-6) yorikiri M3w Kyokutenho (4-6) M3e Miyabiyama (4-6) oshidashi M2w Tochinonada (2-8) K1e Kotomitsuki (8-2) yoritaoshi M1w Roho (3-7) M2e Kokkai (4-6) oshidashi K1w Wakanosato (4-6) S1e Hakuho (6-4) uwatenage M1e Tamanoshima (3-7) O1w Tochiazuma (8-2) hatakikomi S1w Tosanoumi (3-7) O2w Chiyotaikai (9-1) tsukitaoshi M4e Kaiho (2-8) Y1e Asashoryu (10-0) yorikiri M4w Iwakiyama (2-8) Day 11 Makushita Ms5w Hamanishiki (2-3) Ms4w Asahimaru (2-3) Ms4e Ushiomaru (5-0) Ms9w Raiko (5-0) Ms3e Onishi (3-2) Ms12w Kakuryu (3-2) Ms8e Dairaido (4-1) Ms2w Kyokunankai (4-1) Ms1e Kaido (3-2) Ms6w Shiraishi (3-2) Juryo J12e Sumanofuji (4-6) Ms1w Masatsukasa (2-3) J14e Dewanosato (2-8) J11w Chiyotenzan (6-4) J14w Maikaze (3-7) J10w Gojoro (3-6-1) J10e Yotsukasa (4-6) J13e Daimanazuru (6-4) J11e Kanbayashi (5-5) J9w Kinkaiyama (5-5) J13w Kotokasuga (5-5) J7w Wakanoyama (6-4) J6e Daishodai (7-3) J12w Harunoyama (6-4) J5e Kasugao (4-6) J4w Otsukasa (5-5) J4e Senshuyama (6-4) J5w Kitazakura (4-6) J3e Takanotsuru (2-8) J9e Kobo (5-5) J8w Tochinohana (9-1) J2w Tamaasuka (6-4) J2e Tochisakae (8-2) J3w Hakurozan (7-3) J7e Kasuganishiki (6-4) J1w Ishide (3-7) J1e Wakatoba (2-8) J6w Asofuji (3-7) Makuuchi M16w Katayama (6-4) M15w Tokitenku (6-4) M13e Takanowaka (2-8) M17w Toki (5-5) M16e Tamakasuga (6-4) M12w Tokitsuumi (3-7) M12e Buyuzan (5-5) M11w Kisenosato (5-5) M11e Aminishiki (6-4) M14e Kotoshogiku (5-5) M17e Shimotori (4-6) M10w Toyozakura (2-8) M10e Futeno (6-4) M13w Toyonoshima (4-6) M9e Ama (6-4) M15e Takekaze (7-3) M9w Kyokushuzan (9-1) M6w Hokutoriki (7-3) M6e Dejima (5-5) M8e Kotonowaka (4-6) M8w Asasekiryu (5-5) M5w Kakizoe (5-5) M4e Kaiho (2-8) M7w Jumonji (4-6) M3e Miyabiyama (4-6) M7e Takamisakari (3-7) M2e Kokkai (4-6) M1w Roho (3-7) M1e Tamanoshima (3-7) K1w Wakanosato (4-6) K1e Kotomitsuki (8-2) M2w Tochinonada (2-8) S1e Hakuho (6-4) M3w Kyokutenho (4-6) S1w Tosanoumi (3-7) O2w Chiyotaikai (9-1) M4w Iwakiyama (2-8) O1w Tochiazuma (8-2) Y1e Asashoryu (10-0) M5e Kotooshu (7-3)
Asashosakari Posted May 17, 2005 Posted May 17, 2005 Day 10, time to summarize the promotion/demotion situation a bit. :-D Makuuchi->Juryo: Still a surprising number of rikishi in nominal danger of demotion, although many can save themselves with one or two wins in the upcoming five bouts. Of course, one spot is already available due to Hayateumi's sad injury. Most threatened are probably Takanowaka (M13e, 2-8) and Shimotori (M17e, 4-6) who each need four more wins to stay in Makuuchi. Especially Takanowaka has looked very lackluster the this basho and may find it difficult to rally. Three wins are what it'll likely take Toyozakura (M10w, 2-8), Tokitsuumi (M12w, 3-7) and Toki (M17w, 5-5) to secure their spot in the top division. Toki is probably the one who has looked the best out of these three, but this can easily go either way for him. Just two more wins are in order for Toyonoshima (M13w, 4-6), Kotoshogiku (M14e, 5-5), Tamakasuga (M16e, 6-4), and Katayama (M16w, 6-4). Katayama and Kotoshogiku have looked quite good in recent days, and if that trend keeps up they should have no trouble making those two wins. Toyonoshima's performance has been somewhat erratic, and Tamakasuga better give another interview soon to announce that he's planning to end his losing streak and start another run of wins. Hard as it may be to conceive him getting demoted to Juryo after a 6-0 start, but stranger things have happened. Lastly, nearly safe is Tokitenku (M15w, 6-4) who should need just one more win. Kisenosato (M11w, 5-5) and Buyuzan (M12e, 5-5) might be out of danger already but should probably win one more to make it certain, as a sudden dearth of demotees at the bottom could see them in danger even with 5-10. Juryo->Makuuchi: So far, nobody is completely assured of promotion to Makuuchi yet, and more than that, one only rikishi is even close, that being Tochisakae (J2e, 8-2) who can likely celebrate his return to the top division with one more win. Everybody else will have to gambarize (TM Moti): Three more wins to be reasonably sure of promotion are needed for Tamaasuka (J2w, 6-4), Hakurozan (J3w, 7-3) and Tochinohana (J8w, 9-1). All three may slip in with only two more wins though, especially if none of those with an outside chance step up. Two rikishi can get in with four wins, Senshuyama (J4e, 6-4), and Daishodai (J6e, 7-3). Again, one less win may even suffice, but historically 9-6 and 10-5 from their respective ranks have rarely led to promotion, so four wins it probably is. A small chance left have Ishide (J1w, 3-7), Otsukasa (J4w, 5-5), Kasuganishiki (J7e, 6-4), and Wakanoyama (J7w, 6-4) who could make their Makuuchi returns with a run of 5 wins. Again, stranger things have certainly happened. All in all though, it looks like this basho could see a smaller than usual number of rikishi changing divisions, and some demotion candidates in Makuuchi may get lucky. Juryo->Makushita: Still very many rikishi in danger here as well. Two spots have already been vacated, with Kotoryu's retirement and Dewanosato's early make-koshi (J14e, 2-8). Next in line to follow him is likely Maikaze (J14w, 3-7) who can only save his rank by winning the remainder of the basho. Three more wins are likely needed for Gojoro (J10w, 3-6-1), Sumanofuji (J12e, 4-6), and Kotokasuga (J13w, 5-5). Having seen Gojoro's tentative steps on the dohyo today, I'm afraid that's a tall order for him...he might be better off just taking the losses and not endanger his knee again, so he can make a fully-healed return from upper Makushita next basho. Sumanofuji has been the man with two faces this basho, going from ragdoll to Juryo's strongest oshi rikishi and back. The last few days he has been in ragdoll mode so those three wins may be hard to come by. Kotokasuga finds himself in the same situation as Toki one division above, with an even record thru Day 10 and the imperative to get kachi-koshi. Let's hope he fares better than he did six months ago when he squandered a 7-3 record with 5 losses and found himself back in Makushita. In less danger but by no means safe yet are Yotsukasa (J10e, 4-6), Kambayashi (J11e, 5-5), and Daimanazuru (J13e, 6-4), needing two more wins to be completely secure of their rank. Yotsukasa is Yotsukasa and will probably do what he has to do to remain in Juryo, as he always does. Kambayashi had a rocky start with 1-4 but has looked much better the last few days, so two wins shouldn't be difficult for him. Daimanazuru has taken the opposite course, starting out 5-1 only to drop 3 of his last 4 bouts. Still, two wins should be doable for him as well. Just one win might do it for Daimanazuru and Kambayashi, even, but that's not something for them to rely on. Only one win away from another Juryo tournament are Asofuji (J6w, 3-7), Kobo (J9e, 5-5), Kinkaiyama (J9w, 5-5), Chiyotenzan (J11w, 6-4), and Harunoyama (J12w, 6-4). I'd be shocked if either of them doesn't make it, but then there's the warning example of Kotokasuga mentioned above. Makushita->Juryo: As usual, nothing is really decided here yet after 10 days, although Chiyohakuho (ms2e, 4-2), Kyokunankai (ms2w, 4-1) and Ushiomaru (ms4e, 5-0) are in excellent positions for promotion to Juryo. One more win can't hurt for either of them though, especially if Kaido (ms1e, 3-2) wins his two remaining bouts and dark horse Raiko (ms9w, 5-0) takes the yusho. Other than these five, reasonable candidates for promotion are Masatsukasa (ms1w, 2-3) who gets an exchange bout with Sumanofuji tomorrow, and Onishi (ms3e, 3-2). Outside chances in the event of many open spots (or multiple make-koshi among the above-mentioned) remain for Asahimaru (ms4w, 2-3) and Hamanishiki (ms5w, 2-3).
Zuikakuyama Posted May 17, 2005 Posted May 17, 2005 Tochiazuma's henka was quite sad. (Sign of disapproval) So was Kakizoe's. Both of them deservedly got disgusted looks from their opponents.
kotooshu_bulgaria Posted May 17, 2005 Posted May 17, 2005 Just saw some of the movies on banzuke.com from today and must say that Kakizoe's henka was OK, for he didn't win by it. After all, Hokutoriki can't expect anyhing else but henka from his opponent after his jumping tachiai... ;-) Oh, and didn't the female commentator have anything better to say than "That was...strange" after the bout? :'-( However, she did well to notice the shadow under Kotooshu's foot, as did the shinpan, who awarded him a close win. B-) Otherwise, I really liked Tokitenku's handling Ama's leg, seems that this guy is finally going to succeed staying in Makuuchi in his third attempt. (Applauding...)
Araiwa Posted May 17, 2005 Posted May 17, 2005 Tochiazuma's henka was quite sad. (Sign of disapproval) So was Kakizoe's. Both of them deservedly got disgusted looks from their opponents. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I just wonder why on earth did Azuma do it? Was it the fear of achieving the most important 8th win? Tosanoumis expression was really big sadness as it was the second henka against him after Kotomitsuki did it on day 4. Standing 7-2 as an ozeki Azuma really surprised me in the most negative way...Sometimes he is such a great rikishi to watch but today... *has no words* The commentator said: "This is not ozeki sumo..." For me it is not sumo at all. Hokutoriki was so slow from recovering from Kakizoes henka that he deserved the loss. But both of these rikishi Tosanoumi and Hokutoriki rely on strong tachiais that almost the worst henka will be successfull against them. Kotoshogiku reminds me strongly of an ozeki of the 70s. He wasn't a good ozeki and he now is a shimpan. His only sekitori now is in great shape. Know who I mean? :'-(
AsaMoe Posted May 17, 2005 Posted May 17, 2005 I am very disappointed. There could be NO excuse, except maybe injury. Maybe i even hope, that he is injured.
Yubiquitoyama Posted May 17, 2005 Posted May 17, 2005 (edited) Just saw some of the movies on banzuke.com from today and must say that Kakizoe's henka was OK, for he didn't win by it. After all, Hokutoriki can't expect anyhing else but henka from his opponent after his jumping tachiai... :'-( I'm not going to try to defend Tochiazuma's henka (because it tends to get really ugly, and because I still haven't figured out why it has to be defended at all), but I must say I don't understand the reasoning that "henka is okay, if the rikishi doing it is so bad at it that he can't get the win immediately". Edited May 17, 2005 by Yubiquitoyama
Kintamayama Posted May 17, 2005 Posted May 17, 2005 Just saw some of the movies on banzuke.com from today and must say that Kakizoe's henka was OK, for he didn't win by it. After all, Hokutoriki can't expect anyhing else but henka from his opponent after his jumping tachiai... :'-( I'm not going to try to defend Tochiazuma's henka (because it tends to get really ugly, and because I still haven't figured out why it has to be defended at all), but I must say I don't understand the reasoning that "henka is okay, if the rikishi doing it is so bad at it that he can't get the win immediately". <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I usually detest these "I agree", "yes", " I couldn't have said it better" etc posts, but this time, I will take off my moderator cap and say "I AGREE!!! YES, YES, YES!!!".
Guest Kyuzo Posted May 17, 2005 Posted May 17, 2005 Just saw some of the movies on banzuke.com from today and must say that Kakizoe's henka was OK, for he didn't win by it. After all, Hokutoriki can't expect anyhing else but henka from his opponent after his jumping tachiai... :'-( I'm not going to try to defend Tochiazuma's henka (because it tends to get really ugly, and because I still haven't figured out why it has to be defended at all), but I must say I don't understand the reasoning that "henka is okay, if the rikishi doing it is so bad at it that he can't get the win immediately". <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I couldn't agree more. It's one more bit of strategy that needs to be factored into one's game. I'll give twenty-to-one odds that Asashoryu steps up on the dohyo, every single time, knowing what he will do if his opponent tries to henka. Just like he knows what he will do if they try for yotsu, or if they come at him with strong tsuppari. It's all a part of the mind-game. While I understand that this does not make for the most entertaining sumo in the world, it is still a valid method of the art. --Kyuzo
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