Ill rikishi

[Kaikitsune Makoto]

Kotoryu is ill yes but Shimotori sure looks like that way too. Wasn't there some comment a basho or couple ago that Shimotori too is suffering from diabetes or do I mix up facts now? He sure has looked weaker lately. Now going 2-9 at M8 beating only 0-15 Kasugao and Kyokushuzan in his bad form. Doesn't look injured but looks like Kotoryu in many ways now.

[Naifuzan]

I think that was buyuzan or some musashigawa rikishi... I'm not sure either tho... (Shaking head...)

[sashimaru]

I think that was buyuzan or some musashigawa rikishi... I'm not sure either tho...  (Shaking head...)

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It's Wakanoyama from Musashigawa.

I think Gojoro suffers from diabetes too. :'-(

[Kaikitsune Makoto]

Wakanoyama has suffered from diabetes a loooong time already. Buyuzan has no diabetes. I am pretty sure it was Shimotori who was once mentioned in this context but only "pretty" sure...

[Odoriou]

Another member in the diabetes club is Ishide... :-P

Professional swimmers very often have asthma, while many rikishi have diabetes. Strange somehow. (Just do not get it...)

[Misisko]

Does anybody know which tipe of diabetes they have???

juvenile form or II. type diabetes because of obesity???

[Kintamayama]

Does anybody know which tipe of diabetes they have???

juvenile form or II. type diabetes because of obesity???

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Usually type 2.

[Kashunowaka]

Professional swimmers very often have asthma, while many rikishi have diabetes.

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I have heard that cross-country skiers often develop asthma because they are inhaling so much cold air.

[Kaikitsune Makoto]

Swimmers develop asthma because of the constant exposure to chlorine. Chlorine irritates the lungs (chlorine gas was used in WWI as chemical weapon) and pro swimmers spend thousands of hours in the water breating the tiny amounts of chroline day after day. Usually swimmers' asthma get better once they retire from active sumo.

Naruto oyakata was of course the famous diabetic. Ishide, Gojoro, Wakanoyama, Chiyotenzan, Wakanojo, Shimotori. There was a brief comment couple of years ago about Kaiho having problems with blood sugar levels too but nothing more revealed about that.

[Hakuyobaku]

Usually swimmers' asthma get better once they retire from active sumo.

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(Neener, neener...) (Pulling hair...)

Yes. It was bound to happen..

On the other Side, Bjoerndalen has asthma.

[Odoriou]

Does anybody know which tipe of diabetes they have???

juvenile form or II. type diabetes because of obesity???

Usually type 2.

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So... if it's type 2 diabetes - doesn't that usually come from unhealthy (fat) food? That could explain, why especially rikishi develop diabetes... too much chanko nabe, I think.

(Iron Chef) :-) (Having a pizza...) (Munching...) (Licking icecream...) (Pulling hair...) (Neener, neener...)

[Taka]

Well asthma and sport is one thing I'm quite cynical about. In my opinion the asthma numbers in sports have been abnormally high. Too high!

Some numbers: during the Sydney Olympics 10 percent of all the athletes took asthma medicine. From 1988 to 2000 australian olympians with asthma increased from 10 to 20.6 percent. Among american athletes it was 16.7 percent.

During the 98 winter olympics the number of athletes on asthma medicine in certain sports (like cross country skiing) was as high as 50 percent..

Then in 2001 when the IOC and WADA had finalized the new IOC antidoping code, it was included that from now on a written notification was no longer acceptable for Olympic athletes who wanted to take asthma medicine. They now had to submit clinical proof and whenever the diagnosis was questionable, the athletes would be required to take on-site airway function tests to decide their need for medication.

For various reasons you can choose to either speculate or not speculate on, the IOC did not analyze the possible reasons for the asthma trends and never directly linked asthma and cheating but only made conclusions such as these:

# The number of athletes notifying the IOC of their need to take inhaled beta agonists has greatly increased.

# Some athletes may have been misdiagnosed and did not have asthma or exercise-induced bronchoconstriction (EIB) (EIB is the Exercise-Induced Bronchospasm).

# Inhaled beta agonists do not appear to be ergogenic at doses required to inhibit EIB; however, oral beta agonists have anabolic effects.

# Beta agonist use has been skewed geographically and toward endurance sports.

# Eucapnic voluntary hyperpnea (EVH) or a field exercise challenge is the best test for confirming EIB in athletes.

I for one will be extremely suprised if the asthma numbers from Athens haven't gone down drastically compared to previous Olympics. Maybe even down to the Los Angeles 1984 level of around 5 percent.

Obviously this is only a pseudo victory for WADA in a war against doping that can never be won anyway, and any advantage from using asthma medicine in certain sports is small compared to what other forms of doping will give you, but athletes falsely claiming asthma to gain any advantage, I think is now a thing of the (doping's ever evolving) past.....and anyway I've gone (Neener, neener...)

[Odoriou]

Well, I don't think that insolene increases a rikishi's strenght the same way as asthma medicine. (Lifting weight...)

Fortunately there is no doping in sumo... (In a state of confusion...)

[Kintamayama]

Well, I don't think that insolene increases a rikishi's strenght the same way as asthma medicine.  (Lifting weight...)

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Type 2 is usually not insuline-dependant. Vast majority are treated with pills.

[Naganoyama]

Well, I don't think that insolene increases a rikishi's strenght the same way as asthma medicine.  (Lifting weight...)

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Type 2 is usually not insuline-dependant. Vast majority are treated with pills.

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...or diet. Obviously not much of an option for rikishi.