Hakurozan

[Ossetian Yokozuna]

Hakurozan - Wellcome to Makuuchi, please come in.

Roho - you should go to Yokozuna level, Maegashira rank is too ridiculous for you.

[aderechelsea]

Roho - you should go to Yokozuna level, Maegashira rank is too ridiculous for you.

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i REALLY don't think he is anywhere near Sanyaku at this point...

his sumo is really mediocre and showed too little against high-maegashira opponents. Not to mention that he lost to Kotomitsuki(who is MK already),Miyabiyama and a really mediocre Chiyotaikai in his matches against Sanyaku ....

mid-Maegashira fits him right for the moment ...

[Guest Cal Golden Bears]

I just really don't think Roho is gonna be a yokozuna. Roho has lots of advantages /weight, strength etc./ but i really don't think that he's that good as considered future Yokozuna. (Showing respect...)

[Jakusotsu]

I have the feeling that Roho and Kokkai will be the Kaio/Musoyama couple of the future.

[Hakuyobaku]

I have the feeling that Roho and Kokkai will be the Kaio/Musoyama couple of the future.

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Which one is which?

Ok, Kotooshu will be the next Chiyotaikai?

(Sign of approval) (Sign of approval) :-S

:-( (Laughing...) (Showing respect...) :-P

[hoshidango]

I have the feeling that Roho and Kokkai will be the Kaio/Musoyama couple of the future.

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Yeah that kind of make a good sense. Although I really hope to see Roho making it past that.

[Chiyozakura]

Hakurozan - Wellcome to Makuuchi, please come in.

Roho - you should go to Yokozuna level, Maegashira rank is too ridiculous for you.

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One of the negative aspects of sumo's internationilzation ist the stupid nationalism that obvioulsy comes with it... :-D

To the topic: Welcoming Hakurozan to makuuchi is a little too early. He will have to wait at least one more basho as he will probably be ranked behind Futeno, Toyozakura, Kitazakura, Kasuganishiki, Ishide and Otsukasa next time. With "only" (sounds strange in that context) five or six open Makuuchi spots he will not go beyond Juryo 1 or 2.

Roho certainly needs to raise his level of sumo to make Sanyaku. He is strong but in the joi-jin strengh is not enough as Kokkai has to learn the hard way. I don't see Roho and Kokkai go beyond Sekiwake unless they improve a lot. Considering that Roho at nearly 25 is a lot older than the other up and comers Kotooshu and Hakuho, who have already surpassed him, I do not see much promise for Ozeki or Yokozuna.

[Elenrian]

Hakurozan made 10/5!!! That's very good, but he is Juryo 7, and a lot of rikishi made a good score, and have more chances to be promoted. For example Futeno (9/6; juryo 1) has great chances to be promoted, and Toyozakura (10/5; juryo 2) or Kasuganishiki (10/5; juryo 4) too!!!

If he makes the same performance for Haru Basho, he will be certainly promoted!!!

For Roho, 7/8 is not too bad!!! He is a good rikishi, but I don't think he will be yokozuna... (but I may be wrong!!! I used to think Asashoryu would be a "middle" sanyaku...)

[Kashunowaka]

Roho certainly needs to raise his level of sumo to make Sanyaku. He is strong but in the joi-jin strengh is not enough as Kokkai has to learn the hard way. I don't see Roho and Kokkai go beyond Sekiwake unless they improve a lot. Considering that Roho at nearly 25 is a lot older than the other up and comers Kotooshu and Hakuho, who have already surpassed him, I do not see much promise for Ozeki or Yokozuna.

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I agree. Roho did great at the end of the basho to finally go 7-8; he seems to have found his current level. He was no match for the three sanyaku regulars he faced. I think he will make sanyaku during the year and he might eventually become a sanyaku regular.

[Xris]

I used to think Asashoryu would be a "middle" sanyaku...

I remember having the same feeling and thinking about Asashoryu: he may be fierce with his tsuparri, but this will never get him through sanyakus and above. So I'm certainly not able to predict the future of anyone in sumo, but it seems to me that Roho's sumo is improving (in comparison with Kokkai and Hokutoriki for example). So I hope it will continue to improve. If it's the case, he certainly has ozeki potential. Finally, he may be 25 years old, but you cannot compare just age. You also have to take into account the number of years spent in professional sumo. He could peek (physically) later than other sekitoris.

[Zeokage]

Was one of them with Kyokutenho?

[kotooshu_bulgaria]

I have the feeling that Roho and Kokkai will be the Kaio/Musoyama couple of the future.

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Which one is which?

Ok, Kotooshu will be the next Chiyotaikai?

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As you well know, Kotooshu goes together with Kisenosato and their analogy is Akebono vs. Takanohana!

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[Yoma]

Hakurozan - Wellcome to Makuuchi, please come in.

Roho - you should go to Yokozuna level, Maegashira rank is too ridiculous for you.

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:-)

1. Don't jump the gun mate!

2. Be serious...

[Guest Guy Caballero]

Both Roho and Kotooshu I could see as future Ozeki, but I don't think Kokkai will ever make it that far. His "drunken bar fighting" style of sumo won't get him past sekiwake.

[Yubiquitoyama]

At the current rate, I'd be very surprised if either Roho, Hakurozan or Kokkai became Ozeki, although I still believe Kotooshu has that in him. Especially Hakurozan I think will spend more time as a Maegashira than as a sanyaku, but I suppose it remains to be seen...

[tominishiki]

Both Roho and Kotooshu I could see as future Ozeki, but I don't think Kokkai will ever make it that far. His "drunken bar fighting" style of sumo won't get him past sekiwake.

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Maybe Kotooshu will manage the Ozeki in his career if he''ll add more weight to his buddy then he has a chance to be next Akebono but Roho as future ozeki dosen't seems likely to me. I think that before that he should win at least a double digits score at M4

[Zuikakuyama]

I think it is a bit too early to count Roho out as an ozeki at this point.

This is only his first tournament in (or close to) the meat-grinder at m5, and a 7-8 is a respectable score. Lots of future great yokozunas failed to get kk in their first tournament in the meat grinder.

Kokkai, however, is another story. Unless he improves dramatically, there is no way he can make Ozeki.

[Hakuyobaku]

I think it is a bit too early to count Roho out as an ozeki at this point.

This is only his first tournament in (or close to) the meat-grinder at m5, and a 7-8 is a respectable score.  Lots of future great yokozunas failed to get kk in their first tournament in the meat grinder.

Kokkai, however, is another story.  Unless he improves dramatically, there is no way he can make Ozeki.

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It's really amusing how people started overrating Kokkai when he stormed into makuuchi without a MK for two straight years. I remember being really frustratet with only a 8-7 record at M2.

Now that he's had 3 consecutive 7-8 results I can see he's getting underrated. Not that I think he's going to make ozeki anytime in nearest future (which is 1-2 years) but still I think he's capable of that as his experience in Makuuchi will grow.. He hasn't got the talent of Hakuho or long hands of Kotooshu but he's got the power that a few can match so he just should get more (youtsu-zumo) experience, less slips/slapdown losses and he's there.

[Zentoryu]

Now that he's had 3 consecutive 7-8 results I can see he's getting underrated. Not that I think he's going to make ozeki anytime in nearest future (which is 1-2 years) but still I think he's capable of that as his experience in Makuuchi will grow..  He hasn't got the talent of Hakuho or long hands of Kotooshu but he's got the power that a few can match so he just should get more (youtsu-zumo) experience, less slips/slapdown losses and he's there.

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Footwork is Kokkai's downfall.

He losses so many matches due mostly to poor footwork. Poor footwork that leads to poor balance, which leads to slips and slapdowns. Until he's able to clean up that aspect of his sumo, he's going to remain stagnant in mid to upper maegashira land.

Edited January 24, 2005 by Zentoryu