Kyushu 2025 discussion (results)

[dingo]

Takayasu totally dominated Oho, who didn't even get to smell an opportunity to attack. Oho has to step it up if he wants to remain in sanyaku as I don't think he would get the Takayasu treatment from the banzuke committee. 

Kintamayama mentioned in his video that Ura made his win against Kotozakura look easy. I'd add that Kotozakura himself made it look easy too. Not much resistance and not much time to offer any either only going for the totally ineffective half hearted pull. I thought the ozeki should know by now what kind of sumo he's facing but it looked like he was caught off guard. 

Hiradoumi seemed to jump right into Hoshoryu's arms hoping to get a good grip but without a plan b if it doesn't work out ideally. Well, it didn't since Hoshoryu defended really well and Hiradoumi ended up with the weird moves that sent him down. 

Another day at the office for Onosato, the only thing missing from an impeccable victory was the small jump at the tawara that brought him outside the dohyo a bit too early. Nevertheless a very strong and clear win. 

[Reonito]

12 hours ago, Gospodin said:

Aonishiki paid apprentice fee today. And dearly.

We all saw that one coming, right?

[lackmaker]

Nope. But it was gonna come someday soon.

[Bunbukuchagama]

Live by the sword, die by the sword.

[RabidJohn]

Well, you can't call it an apprentice fee in Hoshoryu's case. That was a very cheap kinboshi, and like the yokozuna, I did not see it coming.
Who'd have expected the Onami Bros to morph into Henkas R Us?

[dingo]

Atamifuji's winning technique was more rollykiri than yorikiri 

Shodai finally got another win. That took him long enough. Not sure he's got many opponents as easy as Abi left.

What a bizarre bout between Oshoma and Onokatsu, trying to see who falls over first. In the end Onokatsu had enough and walked out.

Wakatakakage seems just totally deflated. He can do a quick tachiai but not much left after that. It's going to be a long basho for him.

Wow, I did not see winless Takanosho prevailing against in-form Takayasu today. Did Takayasu take his opponent too lightly? Takanosho got that important inside grip fairly easily....

Great fight between Aonishiki and Ura! Try as he might, Ura did not manage to slip much lower than Aonishiki and eventually gave up the mawashi hold that Aonishiki used very effectively.

Kotozakura seems to have a ticket for a seat on the kadoban express as he loses yet another bout that shouldn't be too difficult. With all high rankers (except Takayasu) ahead of him in the second half of the basho, his schedule isn't getting much easier so he needs those wins now. 

Hiradoumi was just blasted out by Onosato. His face after the bout pretty much said how can hope to I stand up to this!? 

Murray said it well regarding the Waka brothers' choice of tactics -- desperate times, desperate measures. Hoshoryu needed the win and Wakamotoharu exploited that very well. Is Hoshoryu going to be able to close down a 2-win gap with Onosato?

[Octofuji]

58 minutes ago, RabidJohn said:

Well, you can't call it an apprentice fee in Hoshoryu's case. That was a very cheap kinboshi, and like the yokozuna, I did not see it coming.
Who'd have expected the Onami Bros to morph into Henkas R Us?

Revenge henka for Hoshoryu on Wakatakakage last basho?

[Yamanashi]

I don't know whether this belongs in Trivia bits, but on Day 6 of Kyushu 2025, Önokatsu was the first rikishi who needed help leaving the dohyo ... before the end of the bout!

[Leoben]

4 hours ago, Octofuji said:

Revenge henka for Hoshoryu on Wakatakakage last basho?

This was my first thought too. I know who's getting called out for a grueling session in the next tour stop.

[Benihana]

The Ukrainian Navy won the submarine battle 

[RabidJohn]

1 hour ago, Yamanashi said:

I don't know whether this belongs in Trivia bits, but on Day 6 of Kyushu 2025, Önokatsu was the first rikishi who needed help leaving the dohyo ... before the end of the bout!

Must be the weight of that heavy metal umlaut he's acquired.

[Heather82Cs]

5 hours ago, Octofuji said:

Revenge henka for Hoshoryu on Wakatakakage last basho?

I also thought that. I'm a Hosh stan and I stand firmly in the henka appreciation field, it just sucks that this essentially means he's out of contention for the basho already. 

Also, should the ozeki go kyujo, I hope he picks the right bout for that...

(To the person asking about the lack of comments: speaking for myself, I haven't really figured out yet if I am even supposed to be here - this feels like a close knit group of friends with legendary knowledge, after all. I also didn't have much to say - it feels to me that at least so far bouts weren't that energetic or memorable - we've been spoiled by quite a few basho this year, and I also feel like the slippiotoshi is the key element so far. Luckily there's a certain YouTube recap that keeps it fun and interesting.)

Ps: I don't seem able to react and even the buttons to change page don't seem to work for me.

[lackmaker]

This is a place for people to express opinions and ask questions. Of course you're "supposed to be here". Legendary knowledge isn't more important than just being interested in sumo.

[Octofuji]

6 minutes ago, Heather82Cs said:

Ps: I don't seem able to react and even the buttons to change page don't seem to work for me.

If you do a long press (on my phone at least) then you can open another page in a new tab. And you can react if you use a computer browser and change the URL from https to http. (Which is not ideal of course). These technical problems are probably contributing to fewer comments.

[Sumo Spiffy]

26 minutes ago, Heather82Cs said:

I also thought that. I'm a Hosh stan and I stand firmly in the henka appreciation field, it just sucks that this essentially means he's out of contention for the basho already. 

Also, should the ozeki go kyujo, I hope he picks the right bout for that...

(To the person asking about the lack of comments: speaking for myself, I haven't really figured out yet if I am even supposed to be here - this feels like a close knit group of friends with legendary knowledge, after all. I also didn't have much to say - it feels to me that at least so far bouts weren't that energetic or memorable - we've been spoiled by quite a few basho this year, and I also feel like the slippiotoshi is the key element so far. Luckily there's a certain YouTube recap that keeps it fun and interesting.)

Ps: I don't seem able to react and even the buttons to change page don't seem to work for me.

Rest assured, I walked in here knowing nobody and just started talking until they accepted my presence.  Plus, you know what a slippiotoshi is, so you're already part of the gang.

To make the forum function properly, it has to be in regular http mode, not https. Just delete the 's' and reload the page. (I don't usually do it because I'd rather be in https, but that's how to make it go.)

[Sumo Spiffy]

BTW, as a general statement, we do realize that Onosato still has no room for error at this point, right? If Hoshoryu runs the table, the only way Onosato avoids their day 15 matchup being meaningful is if he does the same. Yes, he's gone 14-0 before, and he can do it again, but it's really hard. Someone will probably find a way to take him down. It's more up to Hoshoryu to steady the ship.

Edited November 14 by Sumo Spiffy

[Reonito]

4 minutes ago, Sumo Spiffy said:

BTW, as a general statement, we do realize that Onosato still has no room for error at this point, right? If Hoshoryu runs the table, the only way Onosato avoids their day 15 matchup being meaningful is if he does the same. Yes, he's gone 14-0 before, and he can do it again, but it's really hard. Someone will probably find a way to take him down. It's more up to Hoshoryu to steady the ship.

"No room for error" is a rather extreme way of putting "can afford another loss and still assure himself of no worse than a playoff if the other contenders run the table."

[rokudenashi]

2 hours ago, Yamanashi said:

Önokatsu

I think I’ve had this one at a Turkish restaurant before

[Bunbukuchagama]

1 hour ago, Heather82Cs said:

I don't seem able to react and even the buttons to change page don't seem to work for me.

Remove the "s" from "https" in the address field of the page.

Edited November 14 by Bunbukuchagama

[Bunbukuchagama]

30 minutes ago, Sumo Spiffy said:

BTW, as a general statement, we do realize that Onosato still has no room for error at this point, right? If Hoshoryu runs the table, the only way Onosato avoids their day 15 matchup being meaningful is if he does the same. Yes, he's gone 14-0 before, and he can do it again, but it's really hard. Someone will probably find a way to take him down. It's more up to Hoshoryu to steady the ship.

2 wins difference is 2 wins difference. They will only meet once, and Aki showed that even Hoshoryu is unlikely to defeat Onosato twice in one day. And Onosato looks less likely to drop a random bout, actually.

[dingo]

The question for me is who's more likely to get a loss going forward, Hoshoryu or Onosato? The current record points clearly to one direction. Of course Hoshoryu is capable of winning all remaining bouts, but will it really happen? 

[Kaninoyama]

9 hours ago, Octofuji said:

Revenge henka for Hoshoryu on Wakatakakage last basho?

Or in other words: A taste of his own medicine. 

[Bunbukuchagama]

1 hour ago, Kaninoyama said:

Or in other words: A taste of his own medicine. 

[Morty]

Onosato seems to be in a league all his own. This is what a proper dominant Yokozuna looks like. I'd like Aonishiki to keep coming up and get the rope, so Onosato can have some real competition for the yusho in future bashos (yes I know Hoshoryu has Onosato's number head-to-head, but that counts for nought if one of them comes into senshuraku with 14 wins and the other one 11)

[Kishinoyama]

1 hour ago, Morty said:

Onosato seems to be in a league all his own. This is what a proper dominant Yokozuna looks like....

Yes, I remember those days. I guess it all depends on which proper dominant Yokozuna it is. 

In the past, when I checked sumo reference and found that Hakuho had lost, I immediately knew that their would be happiness in the discussion thread. Of course some people here don't think that Hakuho was a proper Yokozuna but I don't think they can deny that at one time, he was dominant.