Natsu 2025 discussion (results)

[Kaninoyama]

10 hours ago, RabidJohn said:

I am truly flabbergasted that you have only just noticed!
It has been noted and discussed hereabouts for what feels like ages - 2-3yrs, I think.

It all must have gone right over my head (pardon the poor pun). 

[Vancouver BC Sumo Fan]

23 hours ago, Bunbukuchagama said:

I hope he would at least get a date with Kirishima on senshuraku. Getting to sanyaku after a schedule with 0 sanyaku opponents would feel rather... cheap. His highest-ranked opponent so far was Ura. 

 

That's bugging me, too. He needed to fight a little higher up this basho if anyone can entertain him being in sanyaku. You gotta fight sanyaku to prove you are sanyaku worthy in my books.

[Vancouver BC Sumo Fan]

15 hours ago, Tigerboy1966 said:

Watching Takarafuji in juryo this time has been a sad experience. He is getting overpowered by guys who wouldn't have moved him back an inch when he was in his prime. Does he want to keep going from the scruffy end of juryo street in July?

I hope he comes back strong next basho and starts fighting his way back up, but if not it may be time to hang up the belt by the end of the year. That'll be sad. He's great but at least we still have Tamawashi inspiring old guys like me.

[Reonito]

6 minutes ago, Vancouver BC Sumo Fan said:

That's bugging me, too. He needed to fight a little higher up this basho if anyone can entertain him being in sanyaku. You gotta fight sanyaku to prove you are sanyaku worthy in my books.

When you need a komusubi, you need a komusubi ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[rhyen]

16 hours ago, Kaninoyama said:

Is it just my imagination or does ex-Aminishiki suddenly have a LOT more hair than he had as an active rikishi?

Oh, he GREW a lot of hair since his retirement. 

[WAKATAKE]

A Kusano juryo yusho tomorrow could mark the first time since 2014 that the two same wrestlers have won the top 2 division titles consecutively.

In 2014 Hakuho won the makuuchi titles, while Tochinoshin won the juryo titles.

Other such occurrences

- 1978 Kitanoumi in makuuchi and Washuyama in juryo
- 1970 Kitanofuji in makuuchi and Kongo in juryo

https://www.nikkansports.com/battle/sumo/news/202505240001774.html

[Bunbukuchagama]

Is there any (semi)official info regarding expected sansho?

[WAKATAKE]

14 minutes ago, Bunbukuchagama said:

Is there any (semi)official info regarding expected sansho?

They normally post on X once they've finished with the votes

[dingo]

6 hours ago, Vancouver BC Sumo Fan said:

He's great but at least we still have Tamawashi inspiring old guys like me.

Don't forget Sadanoumi! 

[Tigerboy1966]

7 hours ago, Vancouver BC Sumo Fan said:

He's great but at least we still have Tamawashi inspiring old guys like me.

We also have Sadanoumi winning a kanto-sho at 38, and Hidenoumi winning promotion to maku'uchi at 35.

[Tsuchinoninjin]

What happened to Aonishiki’s skin? It looks like he fell off a motorcycle or something.

[Bunbukuchagama]

6 minutes ago, Tsuchinoninjin said:

What happened to Aonishiki’s skin? It looks like he fell off a motorcycle or something.

I think it's a birthmark of sorts; it was always there.

[hakutorizakura]

Oof Hosh just made a statement. Well done to both!

[Bunbukuchagama]

Just now, hakutorizakura said:

Oof Hosh just made a statement. Well done to both!

That's what they call a "moral victory". 

[Katooshu]

It's too bad for Hosh that he has 15 opponents during a basho rather than just Onosato.

[Bunbukuchagama]

2 minutes ago, Katooshu said:

It's too bad for Hosh that he has 15 opponents during a basho rather than just Onosato.

You can petition NSK for a change in basho format. I am sure they will be happy to accommodate you. 

[Leoben]

Hoshoryu has a 6-2 record against Onosato, and one of those loses is a fusen. It would be funny if this becomes a thing.

[Bunbukuchagama]

7 minutes ago, Leoben said:

Hoshoryu has a 6-2 record against Onosato, and one of those loses is a fusen. It would be funny if this becomes a thing.

It will be funny if Onosato continues to collect yushos despite their H2H record. 

[TheGunbaiHolder]

50 minutes ago, Katooshu said:

It's too bad for Hosh that he has 15 opponents during a basho rather than just Onosato.

He just need to clone Onosato 14 times.

Edited May 25, 2025 by TheGunbaiHolder

[Kaito]

It seems that wrestlers who have already locked up the yusho tend to lose motivation and drop matches at the end, so Hoshoryu should continue getting Onosato at opportune times.

[Suwihuto]

2 hours ago, hakutorizakura said:

Oof Hosh just made a statement. Well done to both!

A nice set-up to give him a little hope for a future yusho...

[RabidJohn]

What an extremely satisfying basho! We've got a proper back-to-back yusho winner in Onosato with a PB 14-1, and Hoshoryu acquitted himself really well after the shaky start. 12-3 is not to be sniffed at - it earned him his rope! He also showed, weird as it sounds, that our new yokozuna is actually still a little green. He tried and failed to keep Hoshoryu off his mawashi, simple as that.

I'm very pleased to see Wakatakakage back in form. I'm not saying it'll never happen, but I don't expect him to put up the numbers for ozeki promotion. There's nothing wrong with being a damn fine sekiwake, IMO.

Aonishiki certainly looks like a prime prospect for better things, but the same can't currently be said of Takerufuji or Hakuoho.

 

[Godango]

I don’t understand why so many are dismissing Hoshoryu.

Sure, Onosato looks like the dominant force of this generation, but a 12-3 Jun-Yusho is hardly something a yokozuna should be ashamed of.

Yes, two early kinboshi aren't ideal—but at the end of the day, history will remember a 12-3 JY, not the stumble in week one. Let’s put the pitchforks down.

Side note: I was surprised how happy I was to see Hoshoryu win today. This rivalry is shaping up to be something special—I’m really looking forward to it.

[Jakusotsu]

3 minutes ago, Godango said:

I don’t understand why so many are dismissing Hoshoryu.

Let's just say he'll be the Kakuryu to Onosato's Hakuho.

[Godango]

1 minute ago, Jakusotsu said:

Let's just say he'll be the Kakuryu to Onosato's Hakuho.

I still say it's looking like Hakuho/Harumafuji II