Haru 2024 Promotion/Demotion and Yusho Talk

[Atenzan]

14 hours ago, Kaito said:

I wouldn't say Terunofuji ending up at M1e was unsurprising. He calculated to M6w and was placed in front of an 8-7 M2e(!) and 3 others he belonged behind.

As I recall, I was completely stumped by that decision. I wonder what his average rank was in that basho's GTB guesses, which are invariably better than whatever crap the Kyokai comes up with .

[Reonito]

5 minutes ago, Atenzan said:

As I recall, I was completely stumped by that decision. I wonder what his average rank was in that basho's GTB guesses, which are invariably better than whatever crap the Kyokai comes up with .

If I can read my old spreadsheet, I think I had him at M2, can't tell which side

[Oskanohana]

16 minutes ago, Reonito said:

Maybe in theory, but in practice, since 2000, 96 winners have come from Ms1-Ms30 and 47 from Ms31-Ms60. Ms1-Ms5 alone was 36. Speaks to the higher quality in the upper half.

 

12 minutes ago, Bunbukuchagama said:

You can get to 6-0 without facing a single guy from the top half. If you are at the top of the division, every bout is against a quality opponent, and someone from the bottom might only get one in the "finals". 

 

You see, the real trick is getting yourself demoted to upper sandanme. There, you only have to zensho (not even yusho needed) against a bunch of makushita-wannabe's and mediocre rikishis to get up to the makushita extended promotion zone, and from there you have closer access to juryo with a fluke here and there. Kitaharima showed the way (almost got the back-to-back yusho), Wakatakamoto tried it last basho but wasn't even able to get the sandanme part right and Nagamura, the rascal, quickly understood the technique.

[Oskanohana]

17 minutes ago, Atenzan said:

As I recall, I was completely stumped by that decision. I wonder what his average rank was in that basho's GTB guesses, which are invariably better than whatever crap the Kyokai comes up with .

https://sumodb.sumogames.de/gtb/GTBSelectionBasho.aspx?b=202009

There you go

 

Sorry for the doblepost

Edited March 25, 2024 by Oskanohana

[Atenzan]

4 minutes ago, Oskanohana said:

https://sumodb.sumogames.de/gtb/GTBSelectionBasho.aspx?b=202009

There you go

 

Sorry for the doblepost

Alright, so collectively we were off by 3.47 half-ranks, so as a group we had him somewhere between M2w and M3e. Call it M2-haridashi.

[Oskanohana]

9 minutes ago, Atenzan said:

Alright, so collectively we were off by 3.47 half-ranks, so as a group we had him somewhere between M2w and M3e. Call it M2-haridashi.

https://sumodb.sumogames.de/gtb/GTBSelectionBasho.aspx?b=202009

Fun statistical fact. Tamawashi got the most votes for M2e and M2w of any rikishi. Terunofuji, with his vote spread so wide, didn't get top votes at any rank. Logically, Terunofuji, should have been demoted to juryo. Condorcet agrees with me, it's all a paradox.

[Reonito]

7 hours ago, Reonito said:

i'd be surprised if Yoshii ended up in the top 10, think it'll be Tokunomusashi or Otsuji

I think this was the fateful 2500th post  

I will endeavor to uphold the rank, etc.

[Hoshotakamoto]

9 hours ago, Reonito said:

I think this was the fateful 2500th post  

I will endeavor to uphold the rank, etc.

I received the notification.

[Yamanashi]

10 hours ago, Hoshotakamoto said:

I received the notification.

From now on, you have to bow when you reply.

[Seiyashi]

On 26/03/2024 at 08:25, Reonito said:

I think this was the fateful 2500th post  

I will endeavor to uphold the rank, etc.

Omedetō shin-yokozuna 

Thanks for holding the fort also while I was out with an unexpected grief-stricken kyūjō. 

[Reonito]

12 hours ago, Seiyashi said:

Omedetō shin-yokozuna 

Thanks for holding the fort also while I was out with an unexpected grief-stricken kyūjō. 

Sorry to hear 

[Seiyashi]

No, it was the Miyagino scandal, nothing personal. Couldn't believe it was happening. 

[Reonito]

16 hours ago, Seiyashi said:

No, it was the Miyagino scandal, nothing personal. Couldn't believe it was happening. 

Ah, gotcha.