Asashosakari Posted March 11, 2024 Posted March 11, 2024 (edited) Seki-Toto (play): The makuuchi division came in with a mean score of over 8 wins in January, even higher than the dreadful last two editions, but thankfully the zone of dominance was limited to the absolute top of the banzuke this time - the nine players ranked yokozuna to sekiwake averaged bang-on 10 (!) wins with all KKs. The other 33 players produced a much more palatable 7.6 wins and a 17 KK / 16 MK split, so the new rankings came together very easily for a change. Norizo (Ye 10-5) Y Pandaazuma (Yw 8-7) Kaito (O3e 13-2 Y) O1 Susanoo (O2w 12-3) Golynohana (O1e 10-5) O2 ScreechingOwl (O1w 9-6) Ganzohnesushi (O2e 8-7) O3 Joaoiyama (Sw 11-4) Unkonoyama (Se 9-6) S Flohru (M4e 11-4) Metzinowaka (M6w 12-3) K Andoreasu (M1w 9-6) Balon (M2w 8-7) M1 Oskahanada (M7e 10-5) Chelseayama (Ke 7-8) M2 Frinkanohana (M5w 9-6) Bill (Kw 7-8) M3 Kotononami (M4w 8-7) DeRosa (M1e 7-7-1) M4 Konosato (M10e 10-5) Kintamayama (M6e 8-7) M5 Jakusotsu (M2e 7-8) Gaanaag (M12w 11-4) M6 Effinojo (M11e 10-5) Athenayama (M8w 8-7) M7 Kobashi (M9e 8-7) Toonoryu (M3w 6-9) M8 Kajiyanosho (M10w 8-7) Chishafuwaku (M3e 5-10) M9 Tomisakae (M15w 10-5) Itchynotoe (M16e 9-6) M10 Gansekiiwa (M14e 8-7) Mariohana (M5e 4-11) M11 Ketsukai (M11w 7-8) GONZABUROW (M7w 5-9-1) M12 Oortael (M8e 5-10) Ahokaina (J2e 9-6) M13 TochiYESshin (J3w 9-6) Andonishiki (J4w 9-6) M14 Terarno (J2w 8-7) Hana-ichi (M14w 7-8) M15 Gernobono (M15e 7-8) Chijanofuji (M13w 6-9) J1 Herritarooo (M12e 5-10) Asapedroryu (M13e 5-10) J2 Gawasukotto (M9w 3-12) Sakura (J1w 6-9) J3 Kashunowaka (J8w 8-7) Onakaderu (J9e 8-7) J4 Asashosakari (J3e 6-9) Kitakachiyama (J11w 9-6) J5 Kuroimori (J5w 7-8) Kishikaisei (J10e 8-7) J6 Kaiowaka (J4e 6-9) BlackPinkMawashi (J10w 8-7) J7 Saruyama (J11e 8-7) Takanorappa (J1e 4-5-6) J8 Rowitoro (J8e 7-8) Choshu-yuki (J6e 6-9) J9 Chudorj (Ms2e 9-5-1) Umigame (J6w 5-10) J10 Fujisan (J5e 4-7-4) Beeftank (Ms2w 8-7) J11 Holleshoryu (J13e 7-8) Tetsuba (J13w 7-8) J12 Bunbukuchagama (J14e 7-8) Ulishimaru (J7e 4-10-1) J13 Getayukata (J12e 6-9) Joputosu (Ms6e 8-7) J14 Oyama (J14w 6-9) Hisui (NR 9-6) Ms1 Benihana (J9w 3-12) Gusoyama (Ms5e 7-7-1) Ms2 WAKATAKE (J12w 4-11) Profomisakari (Ms3e 6-9) Ms3 Papayasu (Ms6w 7-6-2) Achiyama (Ms1e 4-11) Ms4 Akishiki (Ms5w 6-9) Anjoboshi (J7w 0-0-15) Ms5 Hakunojo (Ms4w 5-10) Dan Koloff (Ms7e 6-7-2) Ms6 Unagiyutaka2 (Ms8w 5-7-3) Hidenotora (Ms4e 2-0-13) Ms7 Netsuzakura (Ms3w 1-2-12) Waraukuri (Ms1w 0-0-15) Ms8 Sherlockiama (Ms7w 2-1-12) Nantonoyama (Ms9e kosho) Ms9 BariiHachiBenson (Ms10e 3-3-9) An update to the topic of new ozeki demotion rules that I brought up two months ago: After recognizing some conceptual problems with the idea I had outlined (e.g. 8-7, 8-7, MK would be a demotion, 8-7, MK, 8-7 would not be...), I've opted for a simpler solution: Makekoshi = full demerit, 8-7 = half demerit, collecting two demerits in any form (including four straight 8-7's) = demotion. If you have demerits tallied, any record of 9-6 or better will eliminate one point; if you were at 1.5, you'll still have 0.5 to clean up afterwards. In other words: 8-7, MK, 12-3, MK, 8-7 = demotion. That's four below-average records in five, so I consider it reasonable. For the avoidance of doubt, if you manage to get demoted with the maximum possible 2.5 demerits (as opposed to a "normal" 2-point demotion) and you come back up immediately, you'll start your new ozeki stint with 0.5, too. Additional rule change Hatsu 2025: A demoted ozeki who returns to the rank immediately will retain 0.5 demerits for his new stint if the return was earned with a 10-5 score. 11-4 and better will result in a completely clean slate. This starting point determination is made independent of any possible "excess" 0.5 demerits from the demotion itself (as described in the preceding paragraph), which will be added on top if applicable. This accounting will be waived if the makuuchi scores happen to go so high in a basho that the full scoring adjustment kicks in. Ozeki records of 9-6 -> 8-7 will be treated as a proper kachikoshi (and clear a demerit if applicable), while 8-7 -> 7-8 will net a full demerit. As I had announced my intention to introduce changes before Hatsu basho, the new rule is applicable to the results of that tournament and thus in effect with this new banzuke, which means that Ganzohnesushi is now at 0.5 demerits. I'm still mulling over how to exactly set the yokozuna intai guidelines now, but the general principle of counting 8-7's as equivalent to half a makekoshi will apply there, too. Edit: The corresponding yokozuna guidelines were announced for Nagoya 2024. Edited January 26, 2025 by Asashosakari 6
Asashosakari Posted March 11, 2024 Author Posted March 11, 2024 Seki-Quadrumvirate (play): A basho with pretty average scoring, not that you could tell from the results of the ozeki squad, where Norizo and Ganzohnesushi are now at risk of demotion in Haru. Kaito had been the winner in Kyushu and was on tsunatori, but alas... Jakusotsu (O2e 8-7) O1 Kaito (O1e 7-8) Golynohana (O3e 7-8) O2 Norizo (O1w 6-9) Ganzohnesushi (O2w 6-9) O3 - Kobashi (S2w 8-7) S Susanoo (M1e 10-5) Kitakachiyama (Ke 8-7) K1 chishafuwaku (Kw 8-7) ScreechingOwl (M5w 11-4 Y) K2 GONZABUROW (M1w 9-6) Andrasoyama (S1e 7-8) M1 Oskahanada (S1w 7-8) joaoiyama (S2e 7-8) M2 Kintamayama (M4e 8-7) Unkonoyama (M6e 8-7) M3 Konosato (M2e 7-8) Gansekiiwa (M6w 8-7) M4 Flohru (M2w 7-8) Pandaazuma (M9w 9-6) M5 Kashunowaka (M7w 8-7) Kishikaisei (M4w 7-8) M6 Athenayama (M9e 8-7) Kaiowaka (M3e 6-9) M7 Kotononami (M3w 6-9) Sakura (M12e 9-6) M8 Andoreasu (M10w 8-7) Oortael (M7e 7-8) M9 Bill (M5e 6-9) Kuroimori (M8e 7-8) M10 Frinkanohana (M15e 9-6) Choshu-yuki (M13e 8-6-1) M11 Chocshoporyu (M10e 7-7-1) DeRosa (M14w 8-7) M12 Balon (J1e 9-6) Asashosakari (M12w 7-8) M13 Ketsukai (M8w 5-10) Mariohana (M11w 6-9) M14 Kamibaka (J6w 9-6) Asapedroryu (M14e 6-9) M15 Hakase (J5w 8-7) Getayukata (M11e 4-11) M16 - Kajiyanosho (M15w 6-9) J1 Jejima (M13w 5-10) Terarno (M16e 6-9) J2 Achiyama (J10w 9-6) Fujisan (J2w 7-4-4) J3 Kyodaitimu (J3e 7-8) BlackPinkMawashi (J3w 7-8) J4 Andonishiki (J1w 6-9) Papayasu (J11e 8-7) J5 TochiYESshin (J4e 6-9) Gernobono (J2e 5-10) J6 Hakushin (J4w 6-9) Metzinowaka (J5e 6-9) J7 reeeen (J9e 7-8) Bunbukuchagama (J14w 8-7) J8 Hironoumi (J7w 6-6-3) Beeftank (Ms1w 8-7) J9 Sukubidubidu (J6e 5-8-2) Oyama (J8w 6-9) J10 Saruyama (Ms2w 8-7) Unagiyutaka (Ms7e 9-3-3) J11 Chankoyama (Ms4w 8-7) Gusoyama (J13w 7-7-1) J12 Hogashi (Ms5w 8-7) Holleshoryu (J11w 6-9) J13 Ruziklao (J9w 5-8-2) Chibiyama (J12e 6-8-1) J14 Kasamatsuri (J12w 6-9) Takanorappa (J13e 6-3-6) Ms1 Furanohana (Ms2e 7-6-2) KonyaGaYamada (J10e 4-11) Ms2 Profomisakari (Ms1e 6-9) Tetsuba (J14e 5-10) Ms3 Netsuzakura (J8e 2-0-13) Nantonoyama (Ms4e 6-9) Ms4 Anjoboshi (J7e 0-0-15) WAKATAKE (Ms6w 6-8-1) Ms5 Rowitoro (Ms3w 4-9-2) Hakunojo (Ms8e 6-9) Ms6 Doreikishi (Ms5e 4-11) Joputosu (Ms7w 5-10) Ms7 Hidenotora (Ms3e 2-0-13) itchynotoe (Ms6e 3-12) Ms8 bariihachibenson (Ms8w 2-4-9) Waraukuri (Ms9e kosho) Ms9 - 5
Asashosakari Posted March 11, 2024 Author Posted March 11, 2024 Seki-Oracle (play): A tournament with a very competitive lower makuuchi led to larger than usual demotions for those who went MK in the joi. Andoreasu moves up to ozeki based on this run: 2023.07 M4w 12-3 (3rd-5th place) 2023.09 K1e 9-6 (4th-7th place) 2023.11 S2e 8-7 (11th-14th place) 2024.01 S1w 12-3 J (2nd place) This wouldn't have got the nod with just the last three results (and obviously didn't get it with the first three after Kyushu either), but all four scores together pushed it across the line. Oskahanada (Ye 10-5) Y - Golynohana (O1w 9-6) O1 Kaito (O2w 6-9) chishafuwaku (O1e 5-10) O2 Andoreasu (S1w 12-3) Asashosakari (S1e 8-7) S ScreechingOwl (K1e 8-7) joaoiyama (M2w 10-5) K1 Pitinosato (M8e 11-4 Y) Susanoo (M4w 10-5) K2 Flohru (M1e 8-7) Kitakachiyama (M6e 10-5) M1 Kishikaisei (M2e 8-7) DeRosa (M7w 10-5) M2 Beeftank (M3e 8-7) Ganzohnesushi (S2e 7-8) M3 GONZABUROW (K1w 7-8) Balon (M5w 8-7) M4 Choshu-yuki (M6w 8-7) Kotononami (M9w 9-6) M5 Unkonoyama (M10w 9-6) Athenayama (K2w 5-10) M6 TochiYESshin (M8w 8-7) itchynotoe (M11e 9-6) M7 Gansekiiwa (M4e 6-9) Torafujii (M1w 4-11) M8 Kobashi (M12w 9-6) Frinkanohana (M7e 7-8) M9 Konosato (M13w 9-6) Bill (M5e 5-10) M10 Norizo (M16e 9-6) Shatsume (J2w 13-2) M11 Oshirokita (M3w 2-13) Mariohana (M11w 7-8) M12 Kirinoumi (M10e 6-9) Pandaazuma (J5e 13-2) M13 Sukubidubidu (J3w 11-4) Bunbukuchagama (M13e 6-9) M14 Tetsuba (M9e 4-11) Saruyama (M12e 5-10) M15 Papayasu (J5w 11-4) Andrasoyama (J1w 9-6) M16 - BlackPinkMawashi (M16w 7-8) J1 Oortael (M14w 6-9) Metzinowaka (J8e 11-4) J2 Yarimotsu (J2e kosho) Wamahada (M14e 4-11) J3 Joputosu (J6e 8-7) Sakura (M15e 4-11) J4 Andonishiki (J13e 11-4) Ruziklao (J3e 7-8) J5 Kajiyanosho (NR 11-4) Kaiowaka (M15w 3-12) J6 Holleshoryu (J4w 7-8) Hakase (J1e 5-10) J7 Takanorappa (J6w kosho) Terarno (J10e 8-7) J8 Profomisakari (J4e 6-9) Waraukuri (J9e kosho) J9 Gusoyama (J7w 5-10) Fujisan (J8w 4-11) J10 Kasamatsuri (J10w kosho) Doreikishi (J13w 5-10) J11 Hakunojo (J12e 4-11) Anjoboshi (J7e 0-0-15) J12 WAKATAKE (J12w kosho) Mmikasazuma2 (NR 3-12) J13 Netsuzakura (J9w 0-0-15) Kamibaka (J11e 0-0-15) J14 bariihachibenson (J11w 0-15) reeeen (J14w 0-15) Ms1 - 4
Ganzohnesushi Posted March 11, 2024 Posted March 11, 2024 1 hour ago, Asashosakari said: Seki-Oracle (play): A tournament with a very competitive lower makuuchi led to larger than usual demotions for those who went MK in the joi. ... Ganzohnesushi (S2e 7-8) M3 That was really much larger than expected Ganzohnesushi
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