Basho absences Nagoya 2023

[Kintamayama]

Was this posted elsewhere?

Ozeki Takakeishou (No chance of entering mid-basho, says his Oyakata)

Wakatakakage

 

Juryo:

Fujiseiun

Edited July 7, 2023 by Kintamayama

[rokudenashi]

All knee related too, both meniscuses (menisci?) in Takakeishō’s case

Fujiseiun has injured his right ACL and probably requires surgery, so it will be a zenkyū for him I guess

Edited July 7, 2023 by rokudenashi

[Kintamayama]

6 minutes ago, rokudenashi said:

All knee related too, both meniscuses (menisci?) in Takakeishō’s case, Tokiwayama says he may enter later on.

 

https://www.nikkansports.com/battle/sumo/news/202307070000601.html

Tokiwayama says - No. Emphatically. At least in this article.

[rokudenashi]

13 minutes ago, Kintamayama said:

https://www.nikkansports.com/battle/sumo/news/202307070000601.html

Tokiwayama says - No. Emphatically. At least in this article.

Too early in the morning for me - I misread the quote as Tokiwayama being asked if there was no chance of Takakeishō coming back rather than any chance. Amended my post.

[Akinomaki]

Wakatakakage is expected to still need three months of post surgery treatment for his right knee https://www.nikkei.com/article/DGXZQOKC079O60X00C23A7000000/

He is training at the heya for a while now, so I fully expect him to enter next basho to keep his sekitori rank, definitely Kyushu.

[Akinomaki]

Kitanofuji is kyujo for the 3rd basho on a row on NHK, for reasons of privacy, NHK won't tell the reason. https://www.nikkansports.com/battle/sumo/news/202307070001084.html

Some tabloid had an article lately: I won't be back

[Jakusotsu]

Health problems or falling-out?

[Akinomaki]

12 hours ago, rokudenashi said:

Fujiseiun has injured his right ACL and probably requires surgery, so it will be a zenkyū for him I guess

Confirmed, the medical certificate for Fujiseiun says exactly this: right ACL injury, from now on hospitalization and surgery is planned http://www.47news.jp/news/9558111.html

7 hours ago, Jakusotsu said:

Health problems or falling-out?

Health for sure

[Reonito]

10 hours ago, Akinomaki said:

Wakatakakage is expected to still need three months of post surgery treatment for his right knee https://www.nikkei.com/article/DGXZQOKC079O60X00C23A7000000/

He is training at the heya for a while now, so I fully expect him to enter next basho to keep his sekitori rank, definitely Kyushu.

I really hope he doesn't rush the rehab!

[Akinomaki]

Enho and Chiyonokuni are kyujo from day 1 on, continuing from dropping out last basho. Enho likely for a long time now with his neck problems http://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/2023/07/08/kiji/20230708s00005000260000c.html

[Yubinhaad]

Full list of lower division absentees:

Ms1w Enho
Ms5w Chiyonokuni
Ms40e Arauma
Ms41e Chiyooga

Sd4e Ienoshima
Sd14w Higonoumi
Sd22e Dewataikai
Sd46e Onokura
Sd49w Taranami
Sd77w Chiyodaigo
Sd85w Tokinishiki (rumoured to be intai)

Jd5w Mochizuki
Jd6w Oki
Jd8e Gaia (recently disappeared from the Tatsunami website so probably intai)
Jd38e Kenho
Jd43w Ginseizan
Jd71w Hishuyama
Jd74w Wakaikki
Jd96w Wakakaneko
Jd100w Kyokushori
Jd105e Wakaarata (Nishiiwa reported that he had surgery on an injury recently)

Jk7e Sadanojo
Jk8e Suio
Jk10w Daikinryu
Jk12w Michihaya
Jk14e Satokaneko
Jk16e Yusui
Jk17e Sonoshun
Jk17w Sano
Jk18e Nakashima
Jk19e Karino

[Kintamayama]

5 hours ago, Yubinhaad said:

Full list of lower division absentees:

M5w Chiyonokuni - PROBABLY INTAI
Sd14w Higonoumi - PROBABLY INTAI
Jd6w Oki - PROBABLY LARGE
Jd74w Wakaikki - PROBABLY HAWAIIAN
Jk8e Suio - PROBABLY ALABAMA
 

 

[Yamanashi]

2 hours ago, Kintamayama said:

 

Jd6w Oki   PROBABLY FROM MUSKOGEE

Jd8e Gaia  PROBABLY AFFECT THE ENTIRE ECOSYSTEM

[Yangnomazuma]

5 hours ago, Kintamayama said:

Jk8e Suio - PROBABLY ALABAMA

Arkansas, more likely.  

 

[Asashosakari]

Kirishima out with a back injury, no further details available yet.

Edit: Clarified by the medical certificate as a right rib contusion, three weeks rest. (Nikkan)

According to Michinoku-oyakata an inflammation near the right shoulder blade has been a recurring issue for about a year. Kirishima had been sitting out practice for the last three days, but it failed to get better in time.

Over at Sports Hochi the shisho is quoted to the effect that he'll only allow Kirishima to join the basho if his condition improves to the point that he can actually do proper sumo, but is keeping it open as a possibility. (I'm skeptical...)

 

On 07/07/2023 at 09:16, rokudenashi said:

All knee related too, both meniscuses (menisci?) in Takakeishō’s case

While I'm at it - this has been certified for three weeks as well.

Edited July 9, 2023 by Asashosakari

[Yamanashi]

Kirishima and Takakeisho out.  That ups the statistical chance for the three wannabe Ozeki, but it doesn't take away the perception that the rank has been snake-bitten in the last few years.

[Sue]

9 hours ago, Yamanashi said:

Kirishima and Takakeisho out.  That ups the statistical chance for the three wannabe Ozeki, but it doesn't take away the perception that the rank has been snake-bitten in the last few years.

And two kadoban for Aki.

[dingo]

11 hours ago, Yamanashi said:

Kirishima and Takakeisho out.  That ups the statistical chance for the three wannabe Ozeki, but it doesn't take away the perception that the rank has been snake-bitten in the last few years.

Seriously, feels like there's some kind of ozeki curse going around the last few years and it keeps getting worse. Talk about monkey's paw. Soon noone will even want to become ozeki. 

[Seiyashi]

2 minutes ago, dingo said:

14 hours ago, Yamanashi said:

Kirishima and Takakeisho out.  That ups the statistical chance for the three wannabe Ozeki, but it doesn't take away the perception that the rank has been snake-bitten in the last few years.

Seriously, feels like there's some kind of ozeki curse going around the last few years and it keeps getting worse. Talk about monkey's paw. Soon noone will even want to become ozeki. 

Takayasu jinxed it before he got demoted. If he can't win a yūshō at ōzeki, neither can anyone else. Only Terunofuji gives no shits for jinxes. The jinx took one look at him and decided not to run the risk of getting morozashi-ed to hell.

On being told that the jinx exists, all three ōzeki wannabes fall flat at the tachiai for the next 14 days.

Does this count as the Ridiculous Predictions thread yet?

[dingo]

20 minutes ago, Seiyashi said:

Takayasu jinxed it before he got demoted. If he can't win a yūshō at ōzeki, neither can anyone else. Only Terunofuji gives no shits for jinxes. The jinx took one look at him and decided not to run the risk of getting morozashi-ed to hell.

On being told that the jinx exists, all three ōzeki wannabes fall flat at the tachiai for the next 14 days.

Does this count as the Ridiculous Predictions thread yet?

So even if Takayasu wins a yusho now (is that a jinx?) then the curse won't be lifted? 

[Gurowake]

19 hours ago, Asashosakari said:

According to Michinoku-oyakata an inflammation near the right shoulder blade has been a recurring issue for about a year. Kirishima had been sitting out practice for the last three days, but it failed to get better in time.

I'm a little confused then why he was on the day 1 torikumi.  They thought it would get better by the time the basho started, and didn't want to be forced to sit out the first two days?  I suppose coupled with the unlikelihood of returning to the basho, it just ended up being much worse than they thought. 

[Asapedroryu]

54 minutes ago, Gurowake said:

I'm a little confused then why he was on the day 1 torikumi.  They thought it would get better by the time the basho started, and didn't want to be forced to sit out the first two days?  I suppose coupled with the unlikelihood of returning to the basho, it just ended up being much worse than they thought. 

He wanted to screw up people’s sumo games. There’s no other logical explanation. Maybe he is a secret player.

[Tsuchinoninjin]

1 hour ago, Gurowake said:

I'm a little confused then why he was on the day 1 torikumi.  They thought it would get better by the time the basho started, and didn't want to be forced to sit out the first two days?  I suppose coupled with the unlikelihood of returning to the basho, it just ended up being much worse than they thought. 

3 weeks rest is a lot shorter than the usual 2 month rest time they punch in. Maybe just a week short of being able to compete.

[Akinomaki]

Kirishima may be back on day 4, according to Michinoku-oyakata: "He's healing quickly". They'll decide after keiko tomorrow, if his condition is good enough he'll be in day 4, else has to aim for kachikoshi on the remaining 11 days from day 5 on. https://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/2023/07/10/kiji/20230710s00005000243000c.html

Sponichi apparently has no doubt he'll enter till day 5

Edited July 10, 2023 by Akinomaki

[Seiyashi]

Best treatment in sumo: medical certificate, accelerates healing by 7x.