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Aki Basho 2021 - Discussion Thread (Spoilers!)

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Tigerboy1966 Ozeki

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6 minutes ago, Seiyashi said:

I wonder when's the last time we had a yusho decided before each day before senshuraku (i.e. when a yusho was decided by d14, d13, etcetc) and whether this basho is going to be yet another case of those.

Kakuryu in March 2018?

Hakuho November 2019?

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Akinomaki Dai-yokozuna

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19 hours ago, Akinomaki said:

After the loss to Takakeisho on day 4, Hoshoryu didn't properly face his opponent for the courtesy bow (rei) and left. Inosuke stopped him and made him bow properly. Sumo starts and ends with rei, like any Japanese martial art, and that phrase is always cited when esp. a foreigner misbehaves.

Inosuke stopping Hoshoryu

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Yamanashi Yokozuna

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3 hours ago, just_some_guy said:

"Tushipushi"

Yes, we can now confirm, it was oshitushi; the butt did not remain in contact while the opponent went out.

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Thorbjarn Juryo

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8 hours ago, Seiyashi said:

Sigh. Wakatakakage just doesn't learn, does he? I don't think it's the first time he's gotten kime-held by Terunofuji.

It's a solid way to prevent dame-oshi, though.... 

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Benevolance Sekiwake

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Okay, let's say Mitakeumi defies statistics and his own talent and goes 13-2, to jun-yusho Terunofuji. That puts him at 31 wins over three tournaments. Could he get the ozeki nod? The answer is no. And I'm mostly posting this because it'll quite probably make Mitakeumi lose tonight, rendering all discussion moot. 

Gurowake Yokozuna

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2 hours ago, Benevolance said:

Okay, let's say Mitakeumi defies statistics and his own talent and goes 13-2, to jun-yusho Terunofuji. That puts him at 31 wins over three tournaments. Could he get the ozeki nod? The answer is no. And I'm mostly posting this because it'll quite probably make Mitakeumi lose tonight, rendering all discussion moot. 

If Mitakeumi manages to win 13 matches this tournament, I predict he will be promoted to Ozeki -  just not necessarily immediately after this basho.  If he manages 13 and it isn't enough, he should be able to manage something that will be enough in the next couple years before he goes into decline.  The threshold for promoting him will continually be lowered the longer he stays in sanyaku and puts up Yusho-quality results, even if they aren't close enough together for a traditional Ozeki run.

Rocks Yokozuna

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29 minutes ago, Gurowake said:

If Mitakeumi manages to win 13 matches this tournament, I predict he will be promoted to Ozeki -  just not necessarily immediately after this basho.  If he manages 13 and it isn't enough, he should be able to manage something that will be enough in the next couple years before he goes into decline.  The threshold for promoting him will continually be lowered the longer he stays in sanyaku and puts up Yusho-quality results, even if they aren't close enough together for a traditional Ozeki run.

I don't think he will be promoted with 13 wins. But, I think if he does get those 13 they will say all he needs in November is 10 or more and he will be made Ozeki. Yes, still only 31 wins over 3 basho  but that would give him 6 KKs for the year and double digit wins in 3 of the last 4 basho. Something he hasn't done before. 

Gurowake Yokozuna

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7 minutes ago, Seiyashi said:

So basically we're now discussing when he gets Goeidoed? 

Ultra-Goeido'd.  More Goeido'd than Goeido.

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Seiyashi Yokozuna

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Good lord. The yobidashi just on the Abema broadcast (Junsuke) has one of the most grating calls I've ever heard from a yobidashi.

More yobidashi shenanigans: another yobidashi seems to have called the wrong rikishi for the bout before being interrupted by the shimpan.

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Gospodin Maegashira

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This Thursday I accidentially forgot to mute before I opened the stream. Chance had it they just announced a rikishi, and a young staff member of mine checked into my office as she heard somebody screaming :-). The expression on her face when I explained to her what was going on was priceless, she will never view me the same again.

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Eikokurai Yokozuna

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6 minutes ago, Gospodin said:

This Thursday I accidentially forgot to mute before I opened the stream. Chance had it they just announced a rikishi, and a young staff member of mine checked into my office as she heard somebody screaming :-). The expression on her face when I explained to her what was going on was priceless, she will never view me the same again.

Caught watching sumo at work, eh? Hehe.

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Gospodin Maegashira

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No problem here. Actually having people realize from time to time that their old fart of a boss has a human side is a good thing :-).

 

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Gospodin Maegashira

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7 hours ago, Benevolance said:

Okay, let's say Mitakeumi defies statistics and his own talent and goes 13-2, to jun-yusho Terunofuji. That puts him at 31 wins over three tournaments. Could he get the ozeki nod? The answer is no. And I'm mostly posting this because it'll quite probably make Mitakeumi lose tonight, rendering all discussion moot. 

I think Mitakeumi is primed for a Kotomitsuki-like career, i.e. languishing in lower sanyaku and the joi for a very long time, before pulling his act together and finally making ozeki.

Seiyashi Yokozuna

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Terasawa (him of stolen bunny mawashi fame) putting together a very nice case for promotion. 3-1 by nakabi including a win over the juryo co-leader.

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Seiyashi Yokozuna

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A very nonchalant reaction by Akua to Shohozan's matta draws an amused chuckle from the crowd. And with the amount of tipping to and fro thanks to Akua's newfound penchant for kakenage, their match resembles shokkiri more than the juryo saigo no torikumi.

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