Asashosakari Posted July 25, 2021 Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) 14 hours ago, WAKATAKE said: Slowest Progress to Yokozuna from Pro Debut (all time) 5. 80 - Kakuryu (11/2001~5/2014)*1 9. 64 - Harumafuji (1/2001~11/2012)*1 Should be 74 and 70 respectively. 36 minutes ago, WAKATAKE said: 1 hour ago, hakutorizakura said: If I read the DB correctly Terunofuji has 62 basho, so in the last item would he be included with 62 (or 63 if counting in next basho)? Yes this entry will be updated next basho depending on what records the NSK puts out They'll probably count it as 61. Edited July 25, 2021 by Asashosakari
Seiyashi Posted July 25, 2021 Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, Yamanashi said: 15 hours ago, WAKATAKE said: 6. 78 - Kitanofuji (1/1957~3/1970) It's astonishing to me that Kitanofuji entereded Ozumo 12 months before the NSK went to six basho per year. He entered at the age of 14, which must be either the youngest debutant ever or pretty close to it (EDIT: maybe only to our modern sensibilities). His slow progress to sekitori (7 years) was probably more a function of physical development, or lack thereof, rather than skill, considering he still found time to reach dai-yokozuna after his promotion. Edited July 25, 2021 by Seiyashi
Asashosakari Posted July 25, 2021 Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) Kitanoumi was 13, to cite a prominent younger example. That wasn't that unusual before the government started to require that the Kyokai only accept applicants who had finished compulsory education (i.e. middle school 9th grade) in 1972. If you trust the data, the youngest modern era debutants listed in the DB are a pair of 11-year-olds (Kinunishiki and Shionosato), plus a handful of age 12 rookies. Age 14 debuts still happen with some regularity, all it takes is a shindeshi coming in out of middle school whose birthday is in (late) March. Edited July 25, 2021 by Asashosakari 2
Gurowake Posted July 25, 2021 Posted July 25, 2021 9 hours ago, WAKATAKE said: Fastest Progress to Juryo from Pro Debut (Excludes Makushita & Sandanme Tsukedashi, 6BPY Era) ... 7. 8 - Takaryu (3/2014~7/2015) While not all these speed demons turned out to be all that great, it's somewhat notable this was Takaryu's ONLY sekitori basho. 9 hours ago, WAKATAKE said: Active rikishi with 6+ promotions to Makuuchi ... 1. 6 - Toyohibiki (7/2007, 5/2009, 1/2011, 11/2015, 7/2016, 5/2017) When do you count them as no longer active?
Gurowake Posted July 25, 2021 Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Asashosakari said: That wasn't that unusual before the government started to require that the Kyokai only accept applicants who had finished compulsory education (i.e. middle school 9th grade) in 1972. And you can see the effect of that on those who had not finished middle school when they originally entered Ozumo. For a couple years, there were several "underage" rikishi that fought bouts only on Sunday, and only in Tokyo tournaments. Example of someone who did so and reached Ozeki: http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi.aspx?r=4112 Edited July 25, 2021 by Gurowake 1
Asashosakari Posted July 25, 2021 Posted July 25, 2021 12 minutes ago, Gurowake said: And you can see the effect of that on those who had not finished middle school when they had been originally entered Ozumo. For a couple years, there were several "underage" rikishi that fought bouts only on Sunday, and only in Tokyo tournaments. Example of someone who did so and reached Ozeki: http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi.aspx?r=4112 Indeed. Some of the last 12-year-old recruits had to compete like that all the way to 1974, such as future juryo Harunafuji. 1
Yamanashi Posted July 26, 2021 Posted July 26, 2021 2 hours ago, Gurowake said: And you can see the effect of that on those who had not finished middle school when they originally entered Ozumo. For a couple years, there were several "underage" rikishi that fought bouts only on Sunday, and only in Tokyo tournaments. Example of someone who did so and reached Ozeki: http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi.aspx?r=4112 Wow! That explains the "skeletonized" 2-1 and 1-2 basho in Jonidan. They seem to have treated 2-1 as KK and 1-2 as MK for placing him in the next basho. [My original comment was about how long ago Kitanofuji entered Sumo; if he had entered at 17 yo in 1957 and I had seen him alive in 2018, I still would have been astonished!] 1
ryafuji Posted July 26, 2021 Posted July 26, 2021 4 hours ago, Asashosakari said: They'll probably count it as 61. Looking at his record I guess he had the one basho waiting period for foreigners in January 2011 and then March was cancelled.
WAKATAKE Posted July 26, 2021 Author Posted July 26, 2021 Batch 18 (Yusho Durations) Longest Duration Between Yokozuna Yusho (6BPY) 1. 13 (Asahifuji, 5/1991~Akebono, 7/1993)2. 7 (Hakuho, 3/2020~7/2021) 2. 6 (Takanohana, 9/1998~Musashimaru, 9/1999) 3. 5 (Taiho, 5/1969~Taiho, 3/1970) 3. 5 (Kitanofuji, 11/1971~Kitanofuji, 9/1972) 5. 4 (Asashio, 3/1961~Taiho, 11/1961) 5. 4 (Sadanoyama, 1/1968~Taiho, 9/1968) 5. 4 (Kitanoumi, 5/1975~Kitanoumi, 1/1976) 5. 4 (Musashimaru, 11/1999~Akebono, 7/2000) 5. 4 (Hakuho, 3/2012~Hakuho, 11/2012) *The current duration of yokozuna yusho drought has been broken by Hakuho as of 7/2021 *1 - Natsu 2020 was cancelled and not counted in the total Longest Duration Between Ozeki Yusho (6BPY) 1. 25 (Wakamisugi *1, 5/1977~Chiyonofuji, 7/1981) 2. 22 (Kisenosato, 1/2017~Takakeisho, 11/2020) *3 3. 17 (Kitanofuji, 1/1970~Kotozakura, 11/1972) 4. 13 (Sadanoyama, 1/1965~Kitanofuji, 3/1967) 5. 12 (Harumafuji, 5/2009~Harumafuji, 7/2011) *2 6. 11 (Taiho, 9/1961~Kitabayama, 7/1963) 6. 11 (Asahifuji, 1/1988~Konishiki, 11/1989) 6. 11 (Musashimaru, 5/1999~Kaio, 3/2001) 6. 11 (Kakuryu, 3/2014~Kotoshogiku, 1/2016) 10. 10 (Takanohana, 9/1975~Wakamisugi *1, 5/1977) 10. 10 (Hokutenyu, 7/1985~Hokutoumi, 3/1987) *1 = Wakanohana II *2 = Haru 2011 basho was cancelled and not counted towards total *3 = Natsu 2020 basho was cancelled and not counted towards total Longest Duration Between Individual Yusho (6BPY) 1. 43 - Kotonishiki (9/1991~11/1998) 2. 30 - Terunofuji (3/2015~7/2020) *1 3. 24 - Mienoumi (11/1975~11/1979) 4. 22 - Kotozakura (3/1969~11/1972) 5. 21 - Chiyotaikai (1/1999~7/2002) 6. 19 - Akebono (5/1997~7/2000) 7. 17 - Sadanoyama (3/1962~1/1965) 8. 16 - Kashiwado (1/1961~9/1963) 8. 16 - Kitanofuji (3/1967~11/1969) 8. 16 - Wakanohana III (3/1993~11/1995) *1 - Natsu 2020 was cancelled and not counted towards total Active Yusho Winner Durations 1. 21 - Tochinoshin (1/2018~) *1 2. 15 - Tamawashi (1/2019~) *1 3. 13 - Asanoyama (5/2019~) *1 5. 11 - Mitakeumi (9/2019~) *1 6. 9 - Tokushoryu (1/2020) *1 7. 6 - Shodai (9/2020) 8. 5 - Takakeisho (11/2020) 9. 4 - Daieisho (1/2021) 10. 2 - Terunofuji (5/2021) *1 - Natsu 2020 was cancelled and not counted towards total 1
WAKATAKE Posted July 26, 2021 Author Posted July 26, 2021 Batch 19 (Yusho Streaks by Rank) Longest Yusho Streak by Yokozuna Rank (6BPY) 1. 21 - 7/1977 (Wajima), 9/1977 (Kitanoumi), 11/1977 (Wajima), 1/1978 (Kitanoumi), 3/1978 (Kitanoumi), 5/1978 (Kitanoumi), 7/1978 (Kitanoumi), 9/1978 (Kitanoumi), 11/1978 (Wakanohana), 1/1979 (Kitanoumi), 3/1979 (Kitanoumi), 5/1979 (Wakanohana), 7/1979 (Wajima), 9/1979 (Kitanoumi), 11/1979 (Mienoumi), 1/1980 (Mienoumi), 3/1980 (Kitanoumi), 5/1980 (Kitanoumi), 7/1980 (Kitanoumi), 9/1980 (Wakanohana), 11/1980 (Wajima) 2. 12 - 3/1965 (Taiho), 5/1965 (Sadanoyama), 7/1965 (Taiho), 9/1965 (Kashiwado), 11/1965 (Taiho), 1/1966 (Kashiwado), 3/1966 (Taiho), 5/1966 (Taiho), 7/1966 (Taiho), 9/1966 (Taiho), 11/1966 (Taiho), 1/1967 (Taiho) 3. 11 - 3/1970 (Taiho), 5/1970 (Kitanofuji), 7/1970 (Kitanofuji), 9/1970 (Tamanoumi), 11/1970 (Tamanoumi), 1/1970 (Taiho), 3/1971 (Tamanoumi), 5/1971 (Kitanofuji), 7/1971 (Tamanoumi), 9/1971 (Kitanofuji), 11/1971 (Kitanofuji) 3. 11 - 7/2009 (Hakuho), 9/2009 (Asashoryu), 11/2009 (Hakuho), 1/2010 (Asashoryu), 3/2010 (Hakuho), 5/2010 (Hakuho), 7/2010 (Hakuho) 9/2010 (Hakuho), 11/2010 (Hakuho), 1/2011 (Hakuho), 5/2011 (Hakuho) 5. 10 - 3/1988 (Onokuni), 5/1988 (Chiyonofuji), 7/1988 (Chiyonofuji), 9/1988 (Chiyonofuji), 11/1988 (Chiyonofuji), 1/1989 (Hokutoumi), 3/1989 (Chiyonofuji), 5/1989 (Hokutoumi), 7/1989 (Chiyonofuji), 9/1989 (Chiyonofuji) 6. 8 - 11/2012 (Hakuho), 1/2013 (Harumafuji), 3/2013 (Hakuho), 5/2013 (Hakuho), 7/2013 (Hakuho), 9/2013 (Hakuho), 11/2013 (Harumafuji), 1/2014 (Hakuho) 7. 7 - 11/2004~11/2005 (Asashoryu) 8. 6 - 7/1962~5/1963 (Taiho) 8. 6 - 5/2014~3/2015 (Hakuho) Longest Yusho Streak by Ozeki Rank (6BPY) 1. 4 - 7/1969 (Kiyokuni), 9/1969 (Tamanoshima), 11/1969 (Kitanofuji), 1/1970 (Kitanofuji) 1. 4 - 5/1994 (Takanohana), 7/1994 (Musashimaru), 9/1994 (Takanohana), 11/1994 (Takanohana) 3. 3 - 11/2002 (Asashoryu), 1/2003 (Asashoryu), 3/2003 (Chiyotaikai) 1
WAKATAKE Posted July 26, 2021 Author Posted July 26, 2021 Batch 20 Ozeki Kadoban Most Ozeki Kadoban (Current Kadoban System Since 7/1969) 1. 14 - Chiyotaikai 2. 13 - Kaio 3. 9 - Goeido 4. 8 - Tochiazuma II 5. 7 - Konishiki 5. 7 - Kotooshu 5. 7 - Kotoshogiku 8. 6 - Musoyama 9. 5 - Daikirin 9. 5 - Takanohana I 9. 5 - Wakashimazu 9. 5 - Takanonami 9. 5 - Terunofuji Active Ozeki that have been Kadoban 1. 3 - Takakeisho 2. 2 - Shodai2. 2 - Asanoyama *Asanoyama will be removed from this list as he is dropping from ozeki next basho 1
WAKATAKE Posted July 26, 2021 Author Posted July 26, 2021 Batch 21: Consecutive Basho in Sanyaku Will look for a place to put this when the time is right. Most Consecutive Basho at Sekiwake (Modern Era) 1. 14 - Goeido 2. 13 - Kaio 3. 11 - Kotomitsuki 4. 9 - Sakahoko 4. 9 - Musashimaru 6. 8 - Tamanishiki 6. 8 - Wakanohana I 6. 8 - Hasegawa 10. 7 - Matsunobori 10. 7 - Daigo 10. 7 - Maenoyama Most Consecutive Basho in Sanyaku (6BPY Era) 1. 19 - Wakanosato 2. 17 - Mitakeumi 3. 14 - Kaio 3. 14 - Kotomitsuki 3. 14 - Goeido 6. 12 - Kitabayama 6. 12 - Musoyama 8. 11 - Daikirin 8. 11 - Sakahoko 8. 11 - Musashimaru 8. 11 - Ama *1 *1 - Harumafuji *Active Sanyaku basho streaks 1. 7 - Mitakeumi 2. 5 - Takayasu 1
WAKATAKE Posted July 26, 2021 Author Posted July 26, 2021 Batch 22: more kachi-koshi Most 10+ Win Kachi-Koshi in Makuuchi 1. 78 - Hakuho 2. 55 - Taiho 2. 55 - Kitanoumi 4. 53 - Chiyonofuji 5. 48 - Musashimaru 6. 47 - Wajima 7. 46 - Takanohana II 8. 42 - Asashoryu 9. 40 - Harumafuji 10. 39 - Kashiwado 10. 39 - Akebono Most 10+ Win Kachi-Koshi as Sekitori 1. 79 - Hakuho 2. 57 - Taiho 3. 56 - Kitanoumi 4. 55 - Chiyonofuji 5. 50 - Musashimaru 6. 49 - Wajima 7. 47 - Takanohana II 8. 43 - Asashoryu 9. 42 - Kashiwado 9. 42 - Harumafuji 1
WAKATAKE Posted July 26, 2021 Author Posted July 26, 2021 Batch 23: Basho at specific ranks added Most Basho at Sekiwake (6BPY) 1. 22 - Kotomitsuki 2. 21 - Hasegawa 2. 21 - Kaio 2. 21 - Kotonishiki 5. 20 - Musoyama 6. 17 - Tochiazuma II 6. 17 - Wakanosato 8. 15 - Goeido 8. 15 - Takatoriki8. 15 - Mitakeumi Active Rikishi with 10+ Basho at Sekiwake 1. 15 - Mitakeumi Most Basho at Komusubi (6BPY) 1. 19 - Takamiyama 2. 15 - Akinoshima 3. 14 - Tochiozan 4. 13 - Kotonishiki 4. 13 - Tosanoumi 6. 12 - Dewanohana 6. 12 - Kisenosato 8. 11 - Kaio 8. 11 - Musoyama 8. 11 - Takatoriki Active Rikishi with 8+ Basho at Komusubi: 1. 10 - Mitakeumi 2. 8 - Tochinoshin Most Basho at Maegashira (6BPY) 1. 87 - Kyokutenho 2. 83 - Takekaze 3. 82 - Aminishiki 4. 81 - Kotonowaka I 5. 80 - Terao 6. 73 - Tochinonada 7. 71 - Yoshikaze 8. 70 - Takamiyama 9. 69 - Takamisugi 10. 68 - Mitoizumi 1
WAKATAKE Posted July 26, 2021 Author Posted July 26, 2021 Batch 24: Trivia Records added in (1) Fastest Drop to Juryo After Makuuchi Yusho (6BPY) 1. 5 - Tokushoryu (1/2020~3/2021) 2. 7 - Wakanami (3/1968~7/1969) 2. 7 - Takatoriki (3/2000~7/2001) 4. 8 - Kotonishiki (11/1998~5/2000) 5. 9 - Baruto (1/2012~9/2013) 6. 16 - Terunofuji (5/2015~3/2018) 7. 19 - Kotofuji (7/1991~11/1994) 8. 22 - Tagaryu (9/1984~7/1988) 9. 27 - Kotoshogiku (1/2016~11/2020) 10. 40 - Mitoizumi (7/1992~5/1999) *Credit to Asashosakari for the post Most Consecutive Basho as Maegashira (6BPY) 1. 58 - Kyokushuzan (5/1997~11/2006) 2. 53 - Higonoumi (3/1993~11/2001) 3. 45 - Takamisakari (1/2004~7/2011) 4. 43 - Ozutsu (1/1985~1/1992) 5. 42 - Minatofuji (5/1994~3/2001) 6. 41 - Kitakachidoki (9/1991~5/1998) 6. 41 - Tokitsuumi (9/1998~5/2005) 8. 40 - Daiyu (11/1965~5/1972) 8. 40 - Kotonowaka I (5/1999~11/2005) 8. 40 - Yoshikaze (7/2007~3/2014) *Currently Active Wrestlers with 25+ Consecutive Basho: 1. 31 - Kagayaki (7/2016~) 2. 28 - Takarafuji (11/2016~) *Credit to Jakusotsu for the post Most Consecutive Basho in Juryo (6BPY) 1. 39 - Sawakaze (3/1960~7/1966) 2. 34 - Tomonohana (3/1996~9/2001) 3. 30 - Kochi (11/1958~9/1963) 3. 30 - Tochiisami (1/1975~11/1979) 3. 30 - Hakuryu (5/1979~3/1984) 3. 30 - Toyonoumi (5/1994~3/1999) 7. 29 - Azumanishiki (11/1962~7/1967) *Active Wrestlers with 20+ Consecutive Basho in Juryo: 1. 26 - Kyokushuho (5/2017~) 2. 22 - Mitoryu (1/2018~) *Credit to Jakusotsu for the post 1
WAKATAKE Posted July 26, 2021 Author Posted July 26, 2021 Batch 25: Another Yusho Record Most Makuuchi Yusho Won Under the Rank of Yokozuna (All Time) 1. 7 - Takanohana II 2. 5 - Tamanishiki 2. 5 - Wakanohana III 2. 5 - Musashimaru 2. 5 - Kaio 6. 4 - Tochinishiki 6. 4 - Asashio II 6. 4 - Kotozakura 6. 4 - Harumafuji 6. 4 - Terunofuji *Credit to Reonito for the post
Yubinhaad Posted July 26, 2021 Posted July 26, 2021 21 hours ago, Asashosakari said: Kitanoumi was 13, to cite a prominent younger example. That wasn't that unusual before the government started to require that the Kyokai only accept applicants who had finished compulsory education (i.e. middle school 9th grade) in 1972. If you trust the data, the youngest modern era debutants listed in the DB are a pair of 11-year-olds (Kinunishiki and Shionosato), plus a handful of age 12 rookies. No idea about Kinunishiki, but I don't think Shionosato's birthdate is correct. Looking around last night I found this profile which gives his age as 19 (if the database has it right, then he retired at 17). I can't know for sure what information points 7 and 8 are, but perhaps reasonable to assume they are his results in 1958.09 (8-0) and 1958.11 (4-4)? 1
Tigerboy1966 Posted August 15, 2021 Posted August 15, 2021 On 21/07/2021 at 06:28, WAKATAKE said: Most Career Basho of All Time (Highest Rank) 1. 211 - Hanakaze (Sandanme 18) 2. 186 - Hokutoryu (Sandanme 53) 3. 175 - Tochitenko (Juryo 4) 4. 174 - Dewanosato (Juryo 14)5. 169 - Tenichi (Makushita 10) 5. 169 - Terunosato (Sandanme 23) 7. 167 - Fujinokaze (Makushita 14) 8. 164 - Sawaisusumu (Jonidan 53) 9. 163 - Itakozakura (Jonidan 19) 9. 163 - Gorikiyama (Makushita 17) *Hanakaze, Tenichi, Terunosato, Fujinokaze, Sawaisusumu, Itakozakura, Gorikiyama are still active as of Nagoya 2021 I can't find Sawaisusumu on the db. Should this be Sawaisamu?
Yamanashi Posted August 15, 2021 Posted August 15, 2021 8 hours ago, Tigerboy1966 said: I can't find Sawaisusumu on the db. Should this be Sawaisamu? It should: 114 basho in Jonokuchi, 47 in Jonidan. I thought something was wrong with the db, because a guy who's spent all those basho in Jk should have faced Shonanzakura at least once. Of course, the answer is they are both members of the mighty Shikihidebeya. 1 1
Sue Posted August 17, 2021 Posted August 17, 2021 On 26/07/2021 at 00:46, WAKATAKE said: Most Makuuchi Yusho Won Under the Rank of Yokozuna (All Time) 6. 4 - Terunofuji Yokozuna who win 10+ yushos in Makuuchi are commonly referred to as "dai-Yokozuna." If Terunofuji wins five more yushos, which would put him at a total of 10, does that make him a dai-Yokozuna? Or does he need to get to 14?
Seiyashi Posted August 17, 2021 Posted August 17, 2021 20 minutes ago, Sue said: Yokozuna who win 10+ yushos in Makuuchi are commonly referred to as "dai-Yokozuna." If Terunofuji wins five more yushos, which would put him at a total of 10, does that make him a dai-Yokozuna? Or does he need to get to 14? I remember asking this question a while back but can't for the life of me find the thread now. Kaminariyuki managed to find an article from John Gunning which suggests that it's 10 lifetime yusho rather than 10 as a yokozuna that qualifies you for dai-yokozuna status. 1
RabidJohn Posted August 17, 2021 Posted August 17, 2021 @Seiyashi I believe it was discussed after Harumafuji got his 9th, just before that business at the karaoke bar. Very gentlemanly response, btw. I wouldn't have been able to resist stuff not adding up...
Seiyashi Posted August 17, 2021 Posted August 17, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, RabidJohn said: @Seiyashi I believe it was discussed after Harumafuji got his 9th, just before that business at the karaoke bar. Very gentlemanly response, btw. I wouldn't have been able to resist stuff not adding up... Oh, I wasn't around that far back, even. I had had occasion to ask it again recently during the last basho but just can't find the thread now. Edited August 17, 2021 by Seiyashi
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