dada78641 884 Posted May 23, 2021 7 hours ago, Seiyashi said: More goss courtesy of Herouth: What made Asanoyama admit to his misdeeds, after the first questioning on the 18th, wasn't the fact that Bunshun had come out with photos on the 19th. He was questioned again on the 19th after the Bunshun article broke, and in the presence of a NSK lawyer this time. The lawyer went: if you're innocent, submit your phone for checking - particularly location history. And that damned him, because the location history matched the dates and times in the Bunshun report. That's when Asanoyama knew the jig was up and confessed. Really goes to show that most people don't really think too much about how much data gets collected about us by our own devices. Even with location history turned off, unless you activate flight mode, your phone is constantly making network connections that could potentially be used to track you (albeit with considerably more difficulty—this is how some Capitol Hill rioters were tracked for example). But yeah, if he has his location history turned on it's pretty easy. What a thing to throw away your career for. This reminds me of a friend of mine who's very privacy minded and always turns off his phone's location history. His girlfriend suspected he might be cheating on her and turned it back on so she could follow his whereabouts. When he found out she did, the lack of faith was so shocking to him that it was enough to cause a breakup. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 4,109 Posted May 23, 2021 1 hour ago, dada78641 said: This reminds me of a friend of mine who's very privacy minded and always turns off his phone's location history. His girlfriend suspected he might be cheating on her and turned it back on so she could follow his whereabouts. When he found out she did, the lack of faith was so shocking to him that it was enough to cause a breakup. Wow. That said, with that lack of trust, not sure it's healthy to a relationship either, so perhaps it was for the best in the long run. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Masunofuji 36 Posted May 23, 2021 2 hours ago, dada78641 said: Really goes to show that most people don't really think too much about how much data gets collected about us by our own devices. We are all just prisoners here, of our own device... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 4,109 Posted May 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, Masunofuji said: 2 hours ago, dada78641 said: Really goes to show that most people don't really think too much about how much data gets collected about us by our own devices. We are all just prisoners here, of our own device... You can check out, but you can never leave. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dada78641 884 Posted May 23, 2021 By the way, I hope we're gonna get more news on this soon now that the tournament is over. Maybe they'll wait another day or so while we're still on that post-tournament high, but then I'm hoping things are gonna start moving... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocks 1,810 Posted May 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, dada78641 said: By the way, I hope we're gonna get more news on this soon now that the tournament is over. Maybe they'll wait another day or so while we're still on that post-tournament high, but then I'm hoping things are gonna start moving... They already said nothing more till they meet in June to discuss it. Unless Asanoyama retires we won't be hearing much. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benihana 1,976 Posted May 23, 2021 On 22/05/2021 at 19:22, Kintamayama said: They are saying his punishment will be decided in June, probably, as no one seems to be in a hurry. Maybe they are waiting for things to cool down and maybe another scandal will help us forget this one. 5 minutes ago, dada78641 said: By the way, I hope we're gonna get more news on this soon now that the tournament is over. Maybe they'll wait another day or so while we're still on that post-tournament high, but then I'm hoping things are gonna start moving... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 4,109 Posted May 23, 2021 (edited) In short, put Asanoyama in as O2w on GTB, and pray for blanked spot solution should he decide to retire after all. Although the messages from his dad and koenkai suggest that that's not the immediate thought right now. Edited May 23, 2021 by Seiyashi E/W brainfart Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reonito 1,815 Posted May 23, 2021 7 minutes ago, Seiyashi said: In short, put Asanoyama in as O2e on GTB, and pray for blanked spot solution should he decide to retire after all. Although the messages from his dad and koenkai suggest that that's not the immediate thought right now. O2w, surely? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 4,109 Posted May 23, 2021 Just now, Reonito said: O2w, surely? Oh yes, my bad. I got E/W mixed up because Asanoyama was on the right in my mind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsuchinoninjin 1,291 Posted May 23, 2021 I feel like letting the rikishi post on social media would make it easier for oyakata to keep tabs on them, but I guess it just means they care more about not looking like rules are being broken than actually policing it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Churaumi 755 Posted May 23, 2021 27 minutes ago, Tsuchinoninjin said: I feel like letting the rikishi post on social media would make it easier for oyakata to keep tabs on them, but I guess it just means they care more about not looking like rules are being broken than actually policing it. Ahh...Japan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dada78641 884 Posted May 23, 2021 3 hours ago, Rocks said: They already said nothing more till they meet in June to discuss it. Unless Asanoyama retires we won't be hearing much. My bad. Skimmed through the topic too quickly when I read up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amamaniac 2,092 Posted May 24, 2021 (edited) On 19/05/2021 at 20:08, Jakusotsu said: He didn't break any laws, he "only" violated NSK decrees, but first and foremost: he lied into his superior's face, and that's the sword in his belly. Why can't the NSK adopt two options: (A) sword in the belly, and (B) lop [or lob!] off the tip of the pinkie. If Yakuza can't fire a pistol without their pinkie finger, just imagine how missing a pinkie would affect a rikishi's ability to fight on the belt! Apologies. I deal with tragedy through humour, even if it is both inappropriate and too early... Edited May 24, 2021 by Amamaniac 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sumojoann 1,271 Posted May 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Amamaniac said: Why can't the NSK adopt two options: (A) sword in the belly, and (B) lob off the tip of the pinkie. If Yakuza can't fire a pistol without their pinkie finger, just imagine how missing a pinkie would affect a rikishi's ability to fight on the belt! Apologies. I deal with tragedy through humour, even if it is both inappropriate and too early... I certainly hope people realize you're joking. However, I think you meant to write "lop off". I had this image of a pinkie being lobbed in the air and caught by a member of the NSK. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amamaniac 2,092 Posted May 24, 2021 25 minutes ago, sumojoann said: 1 hour ago, Amamaniac said: Why can't the NSK adopt two options: (A) sword in the belly, and (B) lob off the tip of the pinkie. If Yakuza can't fire a pistol without their pinkie finger, just imagine how missing a pinkie would affect a rikishi's ability to fight on the belt! Apologies. I deal with tragedy through humour, even if it is both inappropriate and too early... I certainly hope people realize you're joking. I was joking indeed. I had hoped people would pick up on the "through humour" bit. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 4,109 Posted May 24, 2021 Last update on this sad affair for a bit, also courtesy of Herouth: Shibatayama was interviewed a few days ago and asked about the Asanoyama situation. He said the investigations were not trivial and therefore it was unlikely that they would be completed in time for the board meeting on the 27th. So as originally projected, it'll be June before we hear anything. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Churaumi 755 Posted May 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Amamaniac said: I was joking indeed. I had hoped people would pick up on the "through humour" bit. I need to read more carefully. I breezed through your comment and then thought, "Why does a yokozuna need to shoot guns at all?" Only on a second read did I realize my public school education not prepare me for the rigors of the Sumo Forum. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yaochozuna 137 Posted May 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, Churaumi said: I need to read more carefully. I breezed through your comment and then thought, "Why does a yokozuna need to shoot guns at all?" Only on a second read did I realize my public school education not prepare me for the rigors of the Sumo Forum. Well, oyakata isn't that far away from oyabun, is it? At least to a Westerner. And yokozuna/yakuzuna, who can tell one from the other? I can't for sure. And I'm a yaochozuna Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tochinofuji 405 Posted May 24, 2021 56 minutes ago, Churaumi said: I need to read more carefully. I breezed through your comment and then thought, "Why does a yokozuna need to shoot guns at all?" Only on a second read did I realize my public school education not prepare me for the rigors of the Sumo Forum. One could always have asked Taiho and Kashiwado I suppose! http://www.sumoforum.net/forums/topic/37207-yokozuna-no-nos-short-history-summary/ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stupidface 34 Posted May 24, 2021 6 hours ago, sumojoann said: I certainly hope people realize you're joking. However, I think you meant to write "lop off". I had this image of a pinkie being lobbed in the air and caught by a member of the NSK. Ran out of reactions! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Churaumi 755 Posted May 24, 2021 7 hours ago, sumojoann said: I certainly hope people realize you're joking. However, I think you meant to write "lop off". I had this image of a pinkie being lobbed in the air and caught by a member of the NSK. Only if they snatch the airborne pinkie out of the air with chopsticks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robnplunder 978 Posted May 24, 2021 8 hours ago, Amamaniac said: Why can't the NSK adopt two options: (A) sword in the belly, and (B) lop [or lob!] off the tip of the pinkie. If Yakuza can't fire a pistol without their pinkie finger, just imagine how missing a pinkie would affect a rikishi's ability to fight on the belt! Apologies. I deal with tragedy through humour, even if it is both inappropriate and too early... Can Asanoyama intentionally get infected with the virus and quarantined in a monastery without internet access as his punishment? Or is that too cruel and unusual? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yamanashi 4,091 Posted May 25, 2021 ... and I was shamed for making an elaborate joke about the "Who is that Woman?" woman. [only 415 replies until I get my Yokozuna banner!] 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eikokurai 3,437 Posted May 25, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, Amamaniac said: Why can't the NSK adopt two options: (A) sword in the belly, and (B) lop [or lob!] off the tip of the pinkie. If Yakuza can't fire a pistol without their pinkie finger, just imagine how missing a pinkie would affect a rikishi's ability to fight on the belt! Apologies. I deal with tragedy through humour, even if it is both inappropriate and too early... Shall we add this to the 'What ifs?' thread? "What if sumo solved its problems with seppuku? Which rikishi would no longer be around?" Edited May 25, 2021 by Eikokurai Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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