Akinomaki Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Churaumi said: Does anyone know, was the Haru basho profitable? At least they have a new ozeki to drive some merchandising and interest for tv. If they turned a profit on tv rights and merch, or at least pulled close, I could see them trying again. That much less profitable that it will cause an overall loss On 24/03/2020 at 09:53, Akinomaki said: For the 5th (and last) year a profit for the NSK, due to pay rise for the rikishi, 189 million less than last year, 317 million yen. This Haru basho will earn the NSK about 1 billion yen less than last year's. http://www.sanspo.com/sports/news/20200323/sum20032321250012-n1.html Edited March 31, 2020 by Akinomaki 1 1
robnplunder Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 Would there be a temporary pay cut if the loss continues?
Yamanashi Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 18 minutes ago, robnplunder said: Would there be a temporary pay cut if the loss continues? That's an interesting question. The oyakata's might be taking a financial bath if this goes on much longer, since they still have to support the rikishi and pay mortgage/taxes, etc. The fact is that only the sekitori make any money. Those here that remember the numbers could probably calculate the savings from, say, a 50% salary cut and a freeze on kinboshi and other automatic payments. 1
robnplunder Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, Yamanashi said: That's an interesting question. The oyakata's might be taking a financial bath if this goes on much longer, since they still have to support the rikishi and pay mortgage/taxes, etc. The fact is that only the sekitori make any money. Those here that remember the numbers could probably calculate the savings from, say, a 50% salary cut and a freeze on kinboshi and other automatic payments. Maybe the government can step in to shore up the industry? Desperate times calls for desperate measures so to speak.
Eikokurai Posted April 1, 2020 Posted April 1, 2020 If the basho is cancelled, NHK should broadcast classic basho of old in digest form. Say, 15-20m x 15 honbasho days = approx. 5 hours per basho. They could get through about two basho in a week during their normal allotted basho broadcast a lot. Actually, they should just have a YouTube channel that does this all the time.
Amamaniac Posted April 1, 2020 Posted April 1, 2020 (edited) Chris Gould's latest vlog offers some insight on whether or not the May Tourney will take place. The decisive factor may well be whether Abe declares a state of emergency... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FF7fBCzjk4E Edited April 1, 2020 by Amamaniac
sekitori Posted April 2, 2020 Posted April 2, 2020 (edited) I find it interesting that before and during the Haru basho there was only one instance of someone related to sumo who ran a fairly high fever for two consecutive days. It's amazing that no one had any symptoms of corona virus. Considering the widespread prevalence of the virus and the large number of people involved in professional sumo, it looks as if the sumo community dodged a bullet. I have doubts that they will want to try doing it again in May. Edited April 2, 2020 by sekitori
robnplunder Posted April 3, 2020 Posted April 3, 2020 (edited) NHK breaking news - May basho is postponed by two weeks to be held in May - June if all things go well. Edited April 3, 2020 by robnplunder 2 4 1
Kaninoyama Posted April 3, 2020 Posted April 3, 2020 15 minutes ago, robnplunder said: NHK breaking news - May basho is postponed by two weeks to be held in May - June if all things go well. What changes over those two weeks?
robnplunder Posted April 3, 2020 Posted April 3, 2020 May basho starts on 5/24. The next basho is to be postponed for two weeks as well. I assume it really depends on how well Japan does with COVID 19. 1
specialweek 2 Posted April 3, 2020 Posted April 3, 2020 (edited) And Nagoya back 2 weeks as well. Obviously hit send key at same time. Edited April 3, 2020 by specialweek 2
Jemuzu Posted April 3, 2020 Posted April 3, 2020 Sounds like buying themselves time, I doubt they want to sell a load of tickets only to have to refund them again
Akinomaki Posted April 3, 2020 Posted April 3, 2020 (edited) Ticket ozumo sent the message that Natsu basho general sales will be stopped till an undetermined date - so not canceled altogether, sales unlikely to happen, but possible Spoiler 大相撲五月場所の入場券のご購入を検討なさっていたお客様へ、一般発売日についてお知らせ致します。 新型コロナウィルス感染拡大防止並びに昨今の政府見解や状況を受け、令和2年大相撲五月場所入場券の一般発売日を現状未定とさせていただきます。 観戦を楽しみにお待ちいただいておりましたお客様には、ご迷惑をお掛けすることとなり大変申し訳ございません。 ご来場の皆様、地域の皆様の健康面を第一に考慮し、判断させていただきますので、何卒、ご理解賜りますようお願い申し上げます。 また今後の詳細につきましては決まり次第、日本相撲協会公式HPならびにチケット大相撲にて発表させていただきます。 Edited April 3, 2020 by Akinomaki 1
Eikokurai Posted April 3, 2020 Posted April 3, 2020 3 hours ago, robnplunder said: NHK breaking news - May basho is postponed by two weeks to be held in May - June if all things go well. At least a couple of extra weeks rest and recuperation then even if it does go ahead. That’s good. I wonder if it will have an impact further down the line though if they attempt to get it back on the normal schedule. Might we see a shorter turn around between two basho in the future?
Akinomaki Posted April 3, 2020 Posted April 3, 2020 (edited) Hakkaku and Shibatayama made the announcement to the media o oo o ooo o oo o Edited April 4, 2020 by Akinomaki
Asashosakari Posted April 3, 2020 Posted April 3, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, Eikokurai said: At least a couple of extra weeks rest and recuperation then even if it does go ahead. That’s good. I wonder if it will have an impact further down the line though if they attempt to get it back on the normal schedule. Might we see a shorter turn around between two basho in the future? It's effectively +2 weeks for Natsu and +1 week for Nagoya, since the latter was previously one week early to accommodate the Olympics. With Aki basho having a relatively late opening date this year anyway (September 13th), they'd be back on track without further adjustments, I'd imagine. Edited April 3, 2020 by Asashosakari 2
Nantonoyama Posted April 3, 2020 Posted April 3, 2020 If the Natsu basho takes place, it would be the first honbasho to occur across two calendar months since Nagoya 1965. Day 9 would then end a 4924 streak of hon-basho days taking place on odd-numbered months (day 5 Nagoya 1965 - day 8 Natsu 2020) (4909 if you remove Natsu 2011 as not technically a hon-basho) 1
Kaninoyama Posted April 4, 2020 Posted April 4, 2020 Giving the reasons for delaying the start of the basho for two weeks, Hakkaku Rijicho said: "We cannot say the situation is improving day by day. While we are aiming to hold a normal basho, we will consider flexibly from all angles, including holding it but at a reduced scale, holding it without spectators, or canceling it." Source 2
Tigerboy1966 Posted April 4, 2020 Posted April 4, 2020 8 hours ago, Kaninoyama said: holding it but at a reduced scale Any guesses as to what this might mean?
sumojoann Posted April 4, 2020 Posted April 4, 2020 Just now, Tigerboy1966 said: Any guesses as to what this might mean? Perhaps having only Makuuchi and Juryo bouts?
rhyen Posted April 4, 2020 Posted April 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Tigerboy1966 said: Any guesses as to what this might mean? Less spectators.
Eikokurai Posted April 4, 2020 Posted April 4, 2020 1 hour ago, sumojoann said: Perhaps having only Makuuchi and Juryo bouts? I contemplated that. It would come with challenges about what to do with makekoshi records at the bottom of Juryo but I suppose they could work something out there.
Godango Posted April 4, 2020 Posted April 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, Eikokurai said: I contemplated that. It would come with challenges about what to do with makekoshi records at the bottom of Juryo but I suppose they could work something out there. You could always throw the Makushita joi in the mix too. I don't see it happening personally but it wouldn't be the worst idea.
Kaninoyama Posted April 4, 2020 Posted April 4, 2020 It will probably come down to basho as usual, again without spectators, or cancel. Tokyo just crossed 100 infections in a single day for the first time, so things are not trending in a positive direction. I predict either another basho with no spectators or cancellation.
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