RabidJohn Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, Kintamayama said: Shibatayama: "Hopefully we'll have a temporary rijikai around the beginning of next week and will decide regarding the September basho. We'd like to make decisions as soon as possible regarding it- how many people will be allowed in, etc. We are hoping to have as many spectators as possible, depending on the situation." An unusually cogent statement from Shibatayama, but I'm left wondering if I wrong in assuming 'rijikai' means a meeting of the board of directors. 'Interim', 'extraordinary' or even 'emergency' are the kind of adjectives I expect to see describing this kind of meeting, but 'temporary'? Edited August 22, 2020 by RabidJohn
Kintamayama Posted August 22, 2020 Author Posted August 22, 2020 12 minutes ago, RabidJohn said: An unusually cogent statement from Shibatayama, but I'm left wondering if I wrong in assuming 'rijikai' means a meeting of the board of directors. 'Interim', 'extraordinary' or even 'emergency' are the kind of adjectives I expect to see describing this kind of meeting, but 'temporary'? Special, temporary, out of the ordinary - potato-potatoe.. 臨時理事会
Seiyashi Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 Mistranslation, by the looks of it. The kanji do connote emergency/nick-of-time.
Akinomaki Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 (edited) Sempai sekitori of the Saitama Sakae high sumo club - Takekuma (Goeido), Takakeisho, Kotonowaka etc., at the request of related persons sent the club members masks made out of their individually designed cloth for yukata, with messages. They got them on the 10th, just before the interhigh would have started, had it not been canceled. http://www.muromin.jp/news.php?id=10286 Edited September 10, 2020 by Akinomaki 5 2
Kintamayama Posted August 22, 2020 Author Posted August 22, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Seiyashi said: Mistranslation, by the looks of it. The kanji do connote emergency/nick-of-time. I disagree- rinji means temporary, as in something that is not regular, as in special or extraordinary or extra. I'm pretty sure it does not denote any emergency or nick of time, just the fact that it's not timely, something that wasn't planned in advance, not something permanent, hence, temporary. As opposed to 緊急, emergency, urgent. https://www.nihongomaster.com/dictionary/entry/53509/rinji Edited August 22, 2020 by Kintamayama 3 1
RabidJohn Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 @KintamayamaI read your translation and immediately understood the message. I can ask for nothing more. I stuck a thank you on your post before I became uncertain (of my understanding), and I'm thanking you again for the translations you post here.
Morning Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 3 hours ago, Akinomaki said: Sempai sekitori of the Saitama Sakae high sumo club - Takekuma (Goeido), Takakeisho, Kotonowaka etc., at the request of related persons sent the club members masks made out of their individually designed cloth for yukata, with messages. They got them on the 10th, just before the interhigh would have started, had it not been canceled. http://www.muromin.jp/news.php?id=10286 Sounds like a new merchandising idea. Rikishi masks, straight from the souvenir stands at the Kokugikan.
Kintamayama Posted August 22, 2020 Author Posted August 22, 2020 4 hours ago, RabidJohn said: @KintamayamaI read your translation and immediately understood the message. I can ask for nothing more. I stuck a thank you on your post before I became uncertain (of my understanding), and I'm thanking you again for the translations you post here. Oh sure, no problems. I make a lot of mistakes with these and am the first to admit them, but this one I was pretty sure of as it happens too often lately.
Eikokurai Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 6 hours ago, Morning said: Sounds like a new merchandising idea. Rikishi masks, straight from the souvenir stands at the Kokugikan. Made from old unwashed mawashi. That’d keep the virus at bay. 3
Yamanashi Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Eikokurai said: Made from old unwashed mawashi. That’d keep the virus at bay. Since there was no "I just threw up in my mouth" emoji, I was poised between "Ha Ha" and "Sad"; decided to go positive here! 1
Kaninoyama Posted August 23, 2020 Posted August 23, 2020 9 hours ago, Kintamayama said: I disagree- rinji means temporary, as in something that is not regular, as in special or extraordinary or extra. I'm pretty sure it does not denote any emergency or nick of time, just the fact that it's not timely, something that wasn't planned in advance, not something permanent, hence, temporary. As opposed to 緊急, emergency, urgent. https://www.nihongomaster.com/dictionary/entry/53509/rinji This is the applicable nuance of "rinji in this case.
hakutorizakura Posted August 23, 2020 Posted August 23, 2020 20 hours ago, Eikokurai said: Made from old unwashed mawashi. That’d keep the virus at bay. Must be the one stolen quite recently ... Bunny business.
Kaminariyuki Posted August 23, 2020 Posted August 23, 2020 On 18/08/2020 at 18:29, Kaninoyama said: Somehow, I don't see Ura as the type to find himself at the center of a scandal. LOL, oh, I think he's good for some controversy, particularly within the sport he has chosen. My understanding is that the pink mawashi, itself, caused a bit of a stink when Ura hit Juryo the first time. I'm hoping for another strong basho and we'll be within shooting distance of a return to the the paid ranks for one of my favorite rikishi. 1
Reonito Posted August 23, 2020 Posted August 23, 2020 Ura should be ranked right around the Ms5/Ms6 boundary, so a 7-0 will see him return to Juryo, and depending on exactly how the banzuke shakes out, a 6-1 or even a 5-2 could also.
Kintamayama Posted August 24, 2020 Author Posted August 24, 2020 Shibatayama Oyakata regarding degeiko: "We can't have everyone going around willy nilly. We need to make concrete decisions on this subject. Nothing has been decided about this yet at this time." He plans to discuss this with "specialists" and make a decision soon. "There's a difference between going for degeiko and not going for degeiko, " said Kakuryuu earlier. Hakkaku rijicho joins the discussion, renewing the guidelines that all heya must follow regarding coping with the virus. "Coughing and sneezing etc. fills the air and can cause infection. That's why ventilation is essential. Heyas with no windows-not good. Air condition, air circulator, electric fans, opening of windows-keep the air flowing!" One member of the Kyokai was tested after a family member was diagnosed and another one was tested because he had a fever. Both were found negative and will be retested tomorrow. "Not only members of the Kyokai, but their families are cooperating to help us remain virus free, " summed Shibatayama PR chief. 2 4
Kintamayama Posted August 25, 2020 Author Posted August 25, 2020 On 24/08/2020 at 13:19, Kintamayama said: Shibatayama Oyakata regarding degeiko: "We can't have everyone going around willy nilly. We need to make concrete decisions on this subject. Nothing has been decided about this yet at this time." He plans to discuss this with "specialists" and make a decision soon. Degeiko before the next basho remains prohibited, says Shibatayama, and will relay this to the oyakata at the toshiyorikai on the 31st. He said going for degeiko warrants a PCR test and there is not time for that. The rikishi had asked for the ban to be lifted, but to no avail.
Akinomaki Posted August 25, 2020 Posted August 25, 2020 On the 30th the NSK will hold a course in the kokugikan about prevention of - not as usual violence, but - Corona infection, for all heya members: rikishi, oyakata, urakata and also heya managers and okamisan. The infected unnamed low ranked rikishi without symptoms has left the hospital on the 24th. http://www.jiji.com/jc/article?k=2020082501025 About 1000 will be in the kokugikan for the course, to keep social distance, they will also be seated on the 2nd floor o 1
Amamaniac Posted August 25, 2020 Posted August 25, 2020 4 hours ago, Akinomaki said: The infected unnamed low ranked rikishi without symptoms has left the hospital on the 24th. The first time there was an "infected unnamed low-ranked rikishi", we ended up with a cluster that involved stable master Takadagawa and a sekitori or two. Keeping the identity of the wrestler private is their call, but I feel they should be a little more forthcoming about the stable. Certainly, some tracing and intervention measures and might be called for in that stable's case. P.S., Has there been any update on Shikimori Inosuke's condition? I was half expecting him to be on the list of oozumo infection cases, since he belongs to Takadagawa Stable. Apologies in advance if that information has already been posted...
Akinomaki Posted August 26, 2020 Posted August 26, 2020 The Nagano police on their homepage and YT channel published messages from local athletes to cheer up the people, one is from Mitakeumi o 2
Akinomaki Posted August 26, 2020 Posted August 26, 2020 The NSK posted sekitori Q&A stay home messages again, they had recorded those before the July basho. Takakeisho, Daieiesho, Tobizaru, Tsurugisho, Daiamami, Kakuryu 1
Akinomaki Posted August 26, 2020 Posted August 26, 2020 (edited) On 10/08/2020 at 16:42, Akinomaki said: Shibatayama spoke to the press on the phone today: the next Corona antibody tests for all rikishi will take place on 5 days, starting on the 17th, after the o-bon season. Last time the tests were for all NSK members. Planned for after banzuke publication (August 31st) is to reconsider the ban on degeiko. The Corona antibody tests have been completed today, they took place together with the regular health checks (10 days in all, maybe Corona only on every other day?). The results are to come on a later day. Last time 891 were tested and 5 turned out positive (but not ill). http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/sports/sumo/20200826-OYT1T50250/ On 06/07/2020 at 17:24, Akinomaki said: Those of the 5 who had developed symptoms within the last 3 days before the test, undertook a PCR test at once, all were negative. 4 of the 5, who consented, had another PCR test later, all negative. The 1 other had a high potency of antibodies and is seen as having had an infection at least 5 months ago and being completely cured. Edited August 26, 2020 by Akinomaki 1
Akinomaki Posted August 29, 2020 Posted August 29, 2020 (edited) Shibatayama at a phone interview yesterday told that degeiko might be allowed only AFTER the Aki basho, just for a certain period, e.g. during the time the Aki jungyo would usually take place. About degeiko now: "In the worst case, if one turns out positive, he would cause trouble to the degeiko destination. Time-wise we won't get it ready it for this basho." http://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/2020/08/29/kiji/20200828s00005000468000c.html About the results of the recent tests: "Possibly after the basho". "They have no influence for heading towards the basho". http://hochi.news/articles/20200828-OHT1T50201.html Edited August 29, 2020 by Akinomaki 1
Kintamayama Posted August 30, 2020 Author Posted August 30, 2020 The rikishi-kai decided to formally ask the Kyokai to reinstate degeiko today. After the special short course regarding the virus was held today for 1000 kyokai members, the sekitori remained and convened . They are proposing to use the KKan dohyo and places similar where there is a lot of space for degeiko purposes, or to allow only sekitori to practice at the various heyas, cutting down on the crowd. Kotoshougiku was elected to suggest this to the Kyokai on September 1st. "I think this has a sizable influence on our performance. I'd like for our thoughts to be conveyed. It's important to make ourselves heard on this issue, " said Kakuryuu, head of the rikishi-kai. 1 4 1
Akinomaki Posted August 30, 2020 Posted August 30, 2020 (edited) On 25/08/2020 at 16:30, Akinomaki said: On the 30th the NSK will hold a course in the kokugikan about prevention of - not as usual violence, but - Corona infection, for all heya members: rikishi, oyakata, urakata and also heya managers and okamisan. About 1000 will be in the kokugikan for the course, to keep social distance, they will also be seated on the 2nd floor o About 950 NSK members and about 40 okamisan and heya managers took part, listening to 2 lecturers from the medical science lab of Tokyo university o o o Edited August 31, 2020 by Akinomaki 1
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