2019 Aki Basho Discussion (spoiler alert!)

[robnplunder]

1 hour ago, Benihana said:

And i'm crying with Tomokaze right now. Awesome.

Am I the only one noticing that Japanese men cries easily?           

[robnplunder]

43 minutes ago, Rocks said:

Tochinoshin is done unfortunately.  He isn't getting 8 this basho and extremely unlikely to get 10 in November. I'm sure he'll hang on for a while though.

If he goes kyujo now, I like his chances of 10 wins in the next basho.    

Too many surprises in this basho and it is only day 7.   What next?   Okinoumi zensho yusho?   There, I jinxed him.   He loses on day 8, breaks both legs, and goes kyujo ... or not.

[Benihana]

Remember the 3 Naruto boys going 7-0 in Jk last basho? They are at 3-0, 3-0 and 4-0 at the moment in upper jonidan along with two other 3-1 Narutos.

http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Query.aspx?show_form=0&columns=1&rowcount=5&heya=56&form1_wins=3-4&form1_year=2019&form1_month=9&form1_jd=on

Naruto-oyakata is doing a very good job, it seems.

Edited September 14, 2019 by Benihana

[sumojoann]

On 13/09/2019 at 02:57, Kaninoyama said:

Meisei quietly putting together an impressive basho. Almost daily on the NHK broadcasts, the announcers have been commenting that he was a standout during Natsu jungyo, and that even some of the other rikishi have remarked that Meisei is a guy to watch out for this basho. 

It's too soon to tell, of course, but I predict that Meisei will win the Yusho.  It looks like Kakuryu will go kyujo probably today, Hakuho is out for the count, Okinoumi's nerves are starting to show, Takakeisho is having some bad luck and  Ishiura is too small.  Meisei's biggest obstacle is Mitakeumi who's looking very good.  We'll see......

[Otokonoyama]

3 hours ago, Benihana said:

I see Ishiura is enhoing his style of sumo and i see it's good. He isn't quite the technician like Enho, but his + of muscles comes in handy. We NEED both in a playoff.

That boy is jacked. The vitamin T is sufficient.

[Otokonoyama]

2 hours ago, Benihana said:

Tochinoshin should drop out immediately. No way for him going KK with the remaining high rankers still to come.

To his great credit, he does not resort to kachi-age, harite, nor henka in his time of trouble. He has matured into a fine ozeki, even if his tenure was short.

[Otokonoyama]

40 minutes ago, robnplunder said:

Am I the only one noticing that Japanese men cries easily?           

I'd probably do the same if I had just defeated a demi-god in my 14th honbasho (barely my third year as a professional sumo guy). 

[Otokonoyama]

I am Tamajiro's smirking revenge.

[mikawa]

That kinboshi sure meant a whole lot to Tomokaze, Yoshikaze must be so proud right now

[ALAKTORN]

14 hours ago, Jakusotsu said:

Do you actually read before asking?

I didn’t see anybody give an explanation for it. My question was obviously not literal.

[autotroph]

Poignant moment watching Tomokaze after his win. Very happy for him.

[Umizoi]

3 hours ago, Rainoyama said:

Kakuryu kyujo tomorow 

 

Perhaps, or not. In aki 2017, the situation was the same for Harumafuji who finally won in play-off against Goeido.

Since this play-off, Goeido has learned the interest to move forward fast and strong ...

Here, we said that Harumafuji shown a yokozuna spirit because he didn't give up.

If Kakuryu isn't injured, let him fight !

 

[dingo]

On 11/09/2019 at 22:46, Sue said:

When he puts his mind to it, Goeido can look strong enough to make you wonder why he doesn't always put his mind to it.

Funnily enough this is more or less what the NHK Japan commentator said about Goeido's win today - "if he did this sumo 15 days, he'd yusho every basho". 

[Otokonoyama]

14 minutes ago, dingo said:

Funnily enough this is more or less what the NHK Japan commentator said about Goeido's win today - "if he did this sumo 15 days, he'd yusho every basho". 

Hehe. Just a couple days ago the guest oyakata said that if Shodai did that sort of taichiai everyday, he'd be the next ozeki. That must have been around Day 3. Guessing Mr. Oyakata-san has a sizeable sports-betting debt to take care of...

[Akinomaki]

23 hours ago, Akinomaki said:

The last tate gyoji sashi chigae was Kyushu 2015.

http://mainichi.jp/articles/20190913/k00/00m/050/328000c

This article gives day 9 Hatsu 2016 Goeido-Kakuryu as the last tate gyoji sashi chigae - by the previous Inosuke. http://www.sanspo.com/sports/news/20190914/sum19091405000005-n1.html

[Morty]

3 hours ago, robnplunder said:

Am I the only one noticing that Japanese men cries easily?           

Nothing wrong with that. Men crying or showing any emotion other than anger is a good thing . 

[Morty]

Interesting basho. After about a decade of Yokozuna and occasional Ozeki winners, Makuuchi now feels more like Juryo, where anyone can win given a good two weeks.  Most of the big names already almost nearly out of it and knowing them unlikely to get back to the lead; Goeido two behind, Kak three, Tochinoshin right out of it. I don't think Okinoumi will win it (he'll choke) and neither will Tsurugisho, Meisei, ishiura, Enho, and probably Abi. That leaves three previous winners in the mix - Takakeisho, Mitakeumi and Asanoyama, and a couple of possibilities - Endo, Myogiryu and even though it would be really difficult, Tomokaze or Tamawashi from three back (can't see that happening). I really, really like this open field sumo we have had the last couple of years. I loved watching Hak dominate, but this is fabulous, having half a dozen possibilities after the end of the first week.  I'm hoping for Endo but Mitakeumi looks in the best form out of all of them.

[dingo]

56 minutes ago, Morty said:

Interesting basho. After about a decade of Yokozuna and occasional Ozeki winners, Makuuchi now feels more like Juryo, where anyone can win given a good two weeks.  Most of the big names already almost nearly out of it and knowing them unlikely to get back to the lead; Goeido two behind, Kak three, Tochinoshin right out of it. I don't think Okinoumi will win it (he'll choke) and neither will Tsurugisho, Meisei, ishiura, Enho, and probably Abi. That leaves three previous winners in the mix - Takakeisho, Mitakeumi and Asanoyama, and a couple of possibilities - Endo, Myogiryu and even though it would be really difficult, Tomokaze or Tamawashi from three back (can't see that happening). I really, really like this open field sumo we have had the last couple of years. I loved watching Hak dominate, but this is fabulous, having half a dozen possibilities after the end of the first week.  I'm hoping for Endo but Mitakeumi looks in the best form out of all of them.

Goeido for the yusho!

[Benihana]

This must be depressing for Goeido. The Yokozuna out, the other Ozeki out or gravely injured and still people think of a yusho by you being an accident.

[UncleMoustache]

8 hours ago, Otokonoyama said:

To his great credit, he does not resort to kachi-age, harite, nor henka in his time of trouble. He has matured into a fine ozeki, even if his tenure was short.

 

Well, not usually, but he did pull a henka at the Natsu basho - I believe it was the day after that highly questionable call about whether his heel was out.

 

 

[UncleMoustache]

3 losses in a row by Kakuryu.  I wonder if he's going to drop out?  

[Gospodin]

5 hours ago, Morty said:

Interesting basho. After about a decade of Yokozuna and occasional Ozeki winners, Makuuchi now feels more like Juryo, where anyone can win given a good two weeks.  Most of the big names already almost nearly out of it and knowing them unlikely to get back to the lead; Goeido two behind, Kak three, Tochinoshin right out of it. I don't think Okinoumi will win it (he'll choke) and neither will Tsurugisho, Meisei, ishiura, Enho, and probably Abi. That leaves three previous winners in the mix - Takakeisho, Mitakeumi and Asanoyama, and a couple of possibilities - Endo, Myogiryu and even though it would be really difficult, Tomokaze or Tamawashi from three back (can't see that happening). I really, really like this open field sumo we have had the last couple of years. I loved watching Hak dominate, but this is fabulous, having half a dozen possibilities after the end of the first week.  I'm hoping for Endo but Mitakeumi looks in the best form out of all of them.

It would be great if the fading old guard would be more a part of that open field instead of the almost constant absence of about half of them.

[dada78641]

 

Tomokaze's tears. A beautiful moment.

嘉風先輩、お疲れさまでした。

[Kotomiyama]

Onosho's specialty: losing from an advantageous position. The man is an expert.

[Philioyamfugi]

Just reminder live sumo on NHK world (free over the air in the US and streamed on the NHK website)in English at 4:10am EST. 

Ishura has really picked it up, fantastic win today. Hitting low and hard. Lobster boy Kotoyuki doing pretty well too.

Lots of drama going into second week !