Godango Posted March 29, 2020 Posted March 29, 2020 Might thoughts after Haru is that Enho will be a joi mainstay for a long time, with typical 8-7, 7-8 records. Could easily see him reaching Komusubi for a tournament or two. Would love love to be wrong and see him do better, for what it's worth. It's only size holding him back, he's a pound-for-pound Yokozuna. 3
robnplunder Posted March 29, 2020 Posted March 29, 2020 15 hours ago, Houmanumi said: Might thoughts after Haru is that Enho will be a joi mainstay for a long time, with typical 8-7, 7-8 records. Could easily see him reaching Komusubi for a tournament or two. Would love love to be wrong and see him do better, for what it's worth. It's only size holding him back, he's a pound-for-pound Yokozuna. I have a slightly less expectation of Enho's prospect. My feeling is that he will be comfortable at mid-Maegishira level. He may get to a sanyuku rank with a bit of luck. OTOH, he may drop to juryo once in a while. My concern is that the little dude will be prone to a major injury more so than bigger rikishi. 1
Katsunorifuji Posted March 30, 2020 Posted March 30, 2020 39 minutes ago, robnplunder said: I have a slightly less expectation of Enho's prospect. My feeling is that he will be comfortable at mid-Maegishira level. He may get to a sanyuku rank with a bit of luck. OTOH, he may drop to juryo once in a while. My concern is that the little dude will be prone to a major injury more so than bigger rikishi. My thoughts are similar, but maybe a bit more optimistic. He had his first real struggles this basho, but he still held his own for the most part. I can see him moving into sekiwake territory if everything goes right, and maybe even hanging out there for a consecutive basho or two, but it’s hard to see an Ozeki run and much more logical to see him in the mid ranks while occasionally having a hot streak. My biggest concern with Enho is injury though. The bigger guys can tape themselves up and rely on their strength and size without being at too much of a disadvantage. For Enho speed and surprise are key to his wins. Even a slight muscle injury to his legs could slow him down enough that he wouldn’t be able to match larger and stronger opponents. But he is a man of surprise and who knows what we’ll see from him over the next 3 months or 3 years. That’s one of the things I love about sumo and what makes for great discussions and debate. 2
robnplunder Posted March 30, 2020 Posted March 30, 2020 41 minutes ago, Katsunorifuji said: My biggest concern with Enho is injury though. The bigger guys can tape themselves up and rely on their strength and size without being at too much of a disadvantage. For Enho speed and surprise are key to his wins. Even a slight muscle injury to his legs could slow him down enough that he wouldn’t be able to match larger and stronger opponents. But he is a man of surprise and who knows what we’ll see from him over the next 3 months or 3 years. That’s one of the things I love about sumo and what makes for great discussions and debate. Very good point on the injury. I readily admit Enho has already done what I thought was impossible for a guy with that stature.
Tigerboy1966 Posted March 30, 2020 Posted March 30, 2020 6 hours ago, robnplunder said: My concern is that the little dude will be prone to a major injury more so than bigger rikishi. I'm not sure about that. As he is relatively normal in stature he isn't overloading his body like the big guys so there might be less stress on his joints. Also less mass means less momentum so he isn't going to his the clay as hard.
Fukuyamada Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 19 hours ago, Tigerboy1966 said: I'm not sure about that. As he is relatively normal in stature he isn't overloading his body like the big guys so there might be less stress on his joints. Also less mass means less momentum so he isn't going to his the clay as hard. I think some of that concern might stem from thoughts of yoritaoshi and similarly brutal landings against larger men. 1
Yamanashi Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 47 minutes ago, Fukuyamada said: I think some of that concern might stem from thoughts of yoritaoshi and similarly brutal landings against larger men. Yeah, he's been swatted a few times, but also crushed; all he needs is to be bending the leg one way while getting squashed the other way, and bye bye career.
Otokonoyama Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 11 minutes ago, Yamanashi said: Yeah, he's been swatted a few times, but also crushed; all he needs is to be bending the leg one way while getting squashed the other way, and bye bye career. How many big men have also succumbed to injury? Takanohana, Musashimaru, Kisenosato...the list is long.
Jakusotsu Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 16 minutes ago, Otokonoyama said: How many big men have also succumbed to injury? Takanohana, Musashimaru, Kisenosato...the list is long. Not really the best examples... 1
Yamanashi Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 3 hours ago, Otokonoyama said: How many big men have also succumbed to injury? Takanohana, Musashimaru, Kisenosato...the list is long. Yes, but that's not my point: he has a unique disadvantage relative to the big men. Besides, if he gets put into the hospital, I doubt he'll say to himself, "Well, look at all the big men who also succumbed to injury."
Otokonoyama Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 6 hours ago, Yamanashi said: Yes, but that's not my point: he has a unique disadvantage relative to the big men. Besides, if he gets put into the hospital, I doubt he'll say to himself, "Well, look at all the big men who also succumbed to injury." What does any rikishi say to themselves when they get injured? Who knows. Probably some variation of "Curse my luck!" Mitakeumi gets pushed up sideways on the tawara. Messes up his knee. Tomokaze falls off the dohyo and lands on one stiff leg. Kotenage has hurt more than a few. Superstition is strong in the NSK. Maybe it's because bad luck is more of a problem than being less than a giant.
Akinomaki Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 Enho had problems with the lack of cheering last basho: "I got passive and my vision narrowed". He's preparing for Natsu now. o 2
Kaminariyuki Posted April 5, 2020 Author Posted April 5, 2020 On 31/03/2020 at 09:38, Akinomaki said: Enho had problems with the lack of cheering last basho: "I got passive and my vision narrowed". He's preparing for Natsu now. o I don't know whether the Little Engine that Could will be injured or not, but that's a nice looking yukata. And, the kid wears it well. I need to scroll back to the prognostications, as I think one of y'all hit the MK exactly. I look forward to the next basho, audience or no audience. I suspect he will bounce back with another KK, and I'm hoping a double digit performance with a few flashy wins for a special prize.
Kaminariyuki Posted April 5, 2020 Author Posted April 5, 2020 On 28/03/2020 at 06:43, Otokonoyama said: My Japanese is still not good enough to get most of the dialogue, but with the video and a little language skill I really enjoyed this one. Thanks for posting it! I think I'll watch it another time or two, just for the language practice.
Kaminariyuki Posted April 5, 2020 Author Posted April 5, 2020 On 18/02/2020 at 11:33, NokottaClue said: I love him but hes gunna be facing all the big guns this time round... 6-9 for March 2020 basho At least 4 or 5 of those defeats coming from frontal force down, unless he develops another trick up his mawashi and stops going in head first 45 degree angle! Kudos on the prediction. Nailed it!
Kaminariyuki Posted April 5, 2020 Author Posted April 5, 2020 On 29/01/2020 at 05:50, Otokonoyama said: Before he joined pro sumo. Hokaho / Hakuho. A bit of a Miyagino-beya tryout. I just read through most of this thread again, and I have to say, I really love this video. I suspect Hakuho never would have predicted the 2020 Fuji Tournament result, although he clearly enjoyed that loss far more than any other I recall.
NokottaClue Posted April 7, 2020 Posted April 7, 2020 On 05/04/2020 at 17:36, Kaminariyuki said: Kudos on the prediction. Nailed it! I also predicted I'd win the lottery and Chiyomaru to be a Yokozuna by the end of the year 2
robnplunder Posted April 8, 2020 Posted April 8, 2020 What stocks are you buying? Let us know, please. My past time hobby now is to watch sports highlights of the past. Enho's basho videos (all 15 of them) are my favorite. Midorifuji vs Enho would be interesting. I'd look closely to see who is taller of the two. On the record, Midorifuji is listed as a centimeter or two taller and a few kg heavier. I have my doubts. 1
Kaminariyuki Posted July 17, 2020 Author Posted July 17, 2020 Alright, it's really hard to believe we actually have a basho coing up. The rikishi are probably more healthy than average and nobody's been able to properly train. I feel another KK coming on for the little guy. While I'm tempted to go with a marginal KK, I'm feeling the need for a hero so I'll say 10-5 and a prize. I'd love to see some arrows come Enho's way. Anyone else care to stick their neck out?
Yamanashi Posted July 19, 2020 Posted July 19, 2020 Shoot, the media says everybody's so rested and positive about gambarizing and stuff, I think every Makuuchi rikishi will be 9-6: a 42-way playoff! (Sorry, better move this to Ridiculous Predictions)
.jpeg.03d9e28d8a0d71e8411854369a9f9b91.jpeg)
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now